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MTK 02-23-2006 08:18 AM

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How in the hell do the Raiders manage to field a team every year... weren't they something like $30M in the hole at this time last year? Yet they managed to sign Jordan and Moss?

That Guy 02-23-2006 08:32 AM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]How in the hell do the Raiders manage to field a team every year... weren't they something like $30M in the hole at this time last year? Yet they managed to sign Jordan and Moss?[/QUOTE]

gannon took a HUGE paycut and then retired to bail them out. They got screwed when woodson ssigned a 10$mill franchise offer that they were only using to try to get trade value.

Gmanc711 02-23-2006 08:42 AM

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Its going to be very interesting to see how this works out in the end. Obviously were not the only team in this situation, so are ALL the good free agents that are let go, going to just go to one team?? I dont see why guys wouldnt want to restructure their contracts because most free agents are going to be making a whole lot elsewhere either, wouldnt that be right??

Ugh, this is a bad situation, that I feel might get a whole lot worse.

Schneed10 02-23-2006 08:51 AM

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711]Its going to be very interesting to see how this works out in the end. Obviously were not the only team in this situation, so are ALL the good free agents that are let go, going to just go to one team?? I dont see why guys wouldnt want to restructure their contracts because most free agents are going to be making a whole lot elsewhere either, wouldnt that be right??

Ugh, this is a bad situation, that I feel might get a whole lot worse.[/QUOTE]

Yeah you're right, a lot of players might be willing to swallow some bitter pills and take paycuts, because if the CBA doesn't get extended all hell will break loose. Players are going to get axed all over the damn place, there will be so much player movement our heads will be spinning. At that point, the market will be flooded with free agents, it will be a buyer's market, and they likely won't get quite what they're worth. So players might see some wisdom in just staying where they are and taking a paycut. We shall see.

Pocono 02-23-2006 12:04 PM

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]Yeah you're right, a lot of players might be willing to swallow some bitter pills and take paycuts, because if the CBA doesn't get extended all hell will break loose. Players are going to get axed all over the damn place, there will be so much player movement our heads will be spinning. At that point, the market will be flooded with free agents, it will be a buyer's market, and they likely won't get quite what they're worth. So players might see some wisdom in just staying where they are and taking a paycut. We shall see.[/QUOTE]

I think you're really over-stating the amount of problems other teams are going to have if there's no extension before the start of the new cap year. Other teams have not constructed their contracts leaving as little leeway as the Skins and may have left themselves a lot more room to operate because it potentially was the last capped year. For many teams it won't be much different than getting under every other year so what would be their hurry?

On the player's side with the Skins it's not a matter of just taking less this year but also of changing salaries thoughout their contracts. So why commit to taking less in the future when there will either be no cap or a cap in place including a lot more revenue than is shared now?

Monksdown 02-23-2006 03:55 PM

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I dont think anybody posted this link by fox sports cap analyst.

[url="http://redskins.scout.com/2/501659.html?refid=400"]http://redskins.scout.com/2/501659.html?refid=400[/url]

70Chip 02-23-2006 04:26 PM

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[QUOTE=Monksdown]I dont think anybody posted this link by fox sports cap analyst.

[url="http://redskins.scout.com/2/501659.html?refid=400"]http://redskins.scout.com/2/501659.html?refid=400[/url][/QUOTE]

Am I crazy or does this guy's scenario have salaries incresing by more than 30% left and right? For instance, he proposes Griffin's base salary go from 1.5m to 2.25m. Isn't this a 50% increase. What am I missing here?

steveo395 02-23-2006 06:40 PM

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[QUOTE=70Chip]Am I crazy or does this guy's scenario have salaries incresing by more than 30% left and right? For instance, he proposes Griffin's base salary go from 1.5m to 2.25m. Isn't this a 50% increase. What am I missing here?[/QUOTE]
yea i was thinking the same thing...unless the 30% crap includes the signing bonus but i have no idea

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-23-2006 07:05 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]How in the hell do the Raiders manage to field a team every year... weren't they something like $30M in the hole at this time last year? Yet they managed to sign Jordan and Moss?[/QUOTE]

That's why they're in the worst position in the league as far as cap space is concerned.

Pocono 02-23-2006 07:43 PM

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]That's why they're in the worst position in the league as far as cap space is concerned.[/QUOTE]

The Raiders will have no problem getting under the cap. They can save 18M by cutting 2 players and let's face it they stunk with those players so they can do just as well without them.

[url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2341755"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2341755[/url]

bigm29 02-23-2006 10:43 PM

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When are the Redskins gonna start making some moves. There is only one week till free agency. Gotta get guys resigned before they test free agency and make our cuts. Or does it have something to do with them waiting for the CBA agreement

That Guy 02-24-2006 02:06 AM

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the chiefs have similar problem like the skins in terms of poorly structured contracts for a dead cba.

That Guy 02-24-2006 02:07 AM

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[QUOTE=bigm29]When are the Redskins gonna start making some moves. There is only one week till free agency. Gotta get guys resigned before they test free agency and make our cuts. Or does it have something to do with them waiting for the CBA agreement[/QUOTE]

if they start making deals and the cba doesns't get done then keeping royal might cost us improtant starters.

Monksdown 02-24-2006 09:20 AM

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Pretty sure the J. E. T. S. Jets, Jets, Jets, are in worse shape than we are. Unless they can convince Chad to agree to a 8 million dollar a year pay cut.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-24-2006 12:58 PM

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[QUOTE=bigm29]When are the Redskins gonna start making some moves. There is only one week till free agency. Gotta get guys resigned before they test free agency and make our cuts. Or does it have something to do with them waiting for the CBA agreement[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, if the CBA doesn't get extended, it appears that the only thing we will be doing is cutting guys. And, as has been noted, we will likely need to cut more guys than just Bowen, Raymer, etc. We will likely see some key guys gone.


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