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[quote=sbaughone;445216]F minus minus. I will elaborate on why grim4coach says vinnie and danny are retarded:

1) We took two identical WR's. Kelly is slow as molasses...4.78 40? DE's had better times.
2) We have a Pro Bowl TE. There's another roster spot that will go unused.
3) Rinehart & Tryon were both graded by most boards as seventh-round picks
4) We drafted a PUNTER??? Unbelievable. THERE IS NO WAY THIS GUY MAKES THE ROSTER. LET ME REPEAT: THERE IS NO WAY THIS GUY MAKES THE ROSTER.
5) Colt Brennan? Can't read a Defense and has a weak arm. Kinda reminds me of Danny Wureful. GREAT pick vinnie. WONT MAKE THE ROSTER. Oh yea...just had HIP SURGERY...prolly be on IR all year anyway.
6) The last two were at the end of round seven...they are practically FAs.

So one draft, ten picks...maybe one of these guys make the roster, Maybe.

F'n retarded.[/quote]

Do you know anything about football? Kelly was slow on his 40 time with no pads on. Big deal. When his pads were on during the games he seemed to get open quite often against top college players. The combine and pro days don't mean a damn thing cause they're not in pads.

And Thomas is not identical to Kelly at all. They're two different types of WR's. Thomas is more of a game breaker and Kelly is a possesion guy. Get your facts straight.

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<<One of the 10 picks will make the roster? C'mon bro you're the one looking like the retard here.>>

I'll be back in September when the roster's released...and we'll see who's laughing then. Buh Bye Vinnie. Your fate has been sealed.

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[quote=sbaughone;445279]<<One of the 10 picks will make the roster? C'mon bro you're the one looking like the retard here.>>

I'll be back in September when the roster's released...and we'll see who's laughing then. Buh Bye Vinnie. Your fate has been sealed.[/quote]

Great, looking forward to it.

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<<And Thomas is not identical to Kelly at all. They're two different types of WR's. Thomas is more of a game breaker and Kelly is a possesion guy. Get your facts straight.>>

All I know is this: They will not both make the team. Kelly is too slow without pads, too slow with. Enjoy your koolaid. Vinnie's tour as GM is effectively over.

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[quote=irish;445214]I dont think so. In fact I think WR was one of the areas where the Skins were in decent shape. I think O & D Line were way bigger needs than WR.[/quote]

How can you say this?? I had a problem taking two guys early and I agree that we need to address the lines. But there is no denying that we need to upgrade at wr. What has Santana done since 05? What has ARE ever done??

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;445201]Kelly started three years, came out as a junior.

The guys who start four years at a top college program and get picked high are the ones who lead the league in receiving every year. Torry Holt. Dwyane Bowe. Hines Ward. Javon Walker. Etc...

Kelly's issue was more of his speed. He's a Keyshawn Johnson type, it doesn't take a genius to see that. I mean, Keyshawn Johnson was very, very good for a long time. That's the best case scenario for Malcolm Kelly, who was productive multiple years in college.[/QUOTE]

And what about guys like Anquan Boldin, Chad Johnson, Steve Smith.

I think it's remarkable how you can predict best case scenarios

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;445282]How can you say this?? I had a problem taking two guys early and I agree that we need to address the lines. But there is no denying that we need to upgrade at wr. What has Santana done since 05? What has ARE ever done??[/QUOTE]

If anything this will only help Santana.

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I went B...I know they say they stayed to their board but if one of those 3 #2's was a highly rated D or O lineman I would have given them an A. I definitley like the way they traded down and got good value for their picks though.

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I have to give a solid B. We definately addressed our redzone offense and finally got at least one solid possession reciever. And with the TE, I really like it. This will make mismatches for opposing D's. That gives at least 5 solid recieving threats on the field at one time. And with a WC O, this is a great thing to have.

The punter could be a steal, the guy was the best punter in NCAA, and his kick average was substantionally better that Frost.

Colt Brennan, could be something in the future if JC doesn't develop into what we need. Overall I really like the strategy.

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good, solid b. it finally seems like the skins have a plan. it looks like its going to be an passing display in Washington, the way the skins loaded up on offensive options. other then both lines, the skins are fairly young at the skilled positions. next years draft has linemen written all over it

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and pstylee, welcome to the board

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;445282]How can you say this?? I had a problem taking two guys early and I agree that we need to address the lines. But there is no denying that we need to upgrade at wr. What has Santana done since 05? What has ARE ever done??[/QUOTE]

Its hard for any WRs to do something when the QB is inexperienced and the line cant protect him.

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[QUOTE=irish;445322]Its hard for any WRs to do something when the QB is inexperienced and the line cant protect him.[/QUOTE]

But don't you think healthy WRs that can get open will only help Campbell as he gains more experience.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;445327]But don't you think healthy WRs that can get open will only help Campbell as he gains more experience.[/QUOTE]

Yes, and I might have drafted 1 WR but not with my first pick.

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[quote=skinsfan69;445271]LOL! You don't trust anyone from small schools?? If I went down the list of small school players that went on the become great NFL players we'd be here all day. But I'll give you one that's going into Canton this Aug. Darrell Green![/quote]

Doesn't mean a small school player can't prove me wrong, many have. My point was I don't initially expect much from a player that college recruiters/head coaches also didn't expect much from. I think most would agree that the safer pick is one that plays at a school in which the competition is closer to the NFL level.