Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;685739]Why would we focus on 2008 stats? 2009 stats seem to be more relevant to me.

Makes me wonder if having Randy Thomas and Kendall next to Heyer skewed things positively. Without veterans next to him, Heyer was garbage.[/quote]

In 09 he was 71st on that list. Not shocking really. I tried to find a clip of when Heyer never even got out of his stance, but I guess it was so bad that youtube doesn't have it.

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;685739]Why would we focus on 2008 stats? 2009 stats seem to be more relevant to me.

Makes me wonder if having Randy Thomas and Kendall next to Heyer skewed things positively. Without veterans next to him, Heyer was garbage.[/quote]
Heyer played hurt quite a bit of last year

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

Heyer shouldn't even be on a practice squad, the way he played last year. Cut his ASS.

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

[quote=tryfuhl;685751]Heyer played hurt quite a bit of last year[/quote]

He is always hurt. He was hurt in '08 that is why Jansen played a few games. I am pretty sure he was hurt in '07 at some point too.

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;684903]Even disregarding his ex-Cowboyness, they let him go without any real backup, he was notorious for penalties, and just bad play. I would rather not bring him here, even as a stopgap.[/quote]


My thoughts exactly.....

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

To all who are Gaither fans, I found this in an article on the SFChronicle. Maybe this is why teams are not jumping on a trade for him

Here's a teaser:

The draft is really the only place to land a tackle. Yes, another former Terp Jared Gaither is reportedly available for a second-round choice from the Ravens. But the word around the league is that the mammoth Gaither (6-9, 340) doesn't love the game, rarely works out, and wouldn't fit into a Mike Singletary-coached team.

Read more: [url=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?entry_id=60824#ixzz0kX5mQxlM]Niner Insider : The right tackle[/url]

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;685816]To all who are Gaither fans, I found this in an article on the SFChronicle. Maybe this is why teams are not jumping on a trade for him

Here's a teaser:

The draft is really the only place to land a tackle. Yes, another former Terp Jared Gaither is reportedly available for a second-round choice from the Ravens. But the word around the league is that the mammoth Gaither (6-9, 340) doesn't love the game, rarely works out, and wouldn't fit into a Mike Singletary-coached team.

Read more: [url=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?entry_id=60824#ixzz0kX5mQxlM]Niner Insider : The right tackle[/url][/quote]

Ya I would say that is a prob. So, out the window goes the Gaither idea if that proves true. And If i recall, there were some on the Ravens staff questioning his work ethic as well.


At the end of the day, if he was a fiery talented competitor that was passionate about playing, and had nothing but upside, I dont care who else they have on their roster. They wouldn't be shopping the guy. We should know he is not in their long term plans for a reason, and that is a HUGE red flag, literally. Hopefully, our coaches have seen this, and that is why there are no real reports of interest.

Hopefully.

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

[quote=Mechanix544;685824]Ya I would say that is a prob. So, out the window goes the Gaither idea if that proves true. And If i recall, there were some on the Ravens staff questioning his work ethic as well.


At the end of the day, if he was a fiery talented competitor that was passionate about playing, and had nothing but upside, I dont care who else they have on their roster. They wouldn't be shopping the guy. We should know he is not in their long term plans for a reason, and that is a HUGE red flag, literally. Hopefully, our coaches have seen this, and that is why there are no real reports of interest.

Hopefully.[/quote]
Yeah.. and rumors that he's failed a couple of drug tests and is facing a 3rd strike if he does it again.

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;685816]To all who are Gaither fans, I found this in an article on the SFChronicle. Maybe this is why teams are not jumping on a trade for him

Here's a teaser:

The draft is really the only place to land a tackle. Yes, another former Terp Jared Gaither is reportedly available for a second-round choice from the Ravens. But the word around the league is that the mammoth Gaither (6-9, 340) doesn't love the game, rarely works out, and wouldn't fit into a Mike Singletary-coached team.

Read more: [url=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?entry_id=60824#ixzz0kX5mQxlM]Niner Insider : The right tackle[/url][/quote]

Sounds pretty much what SmootSmack said. It's a shame since he appears to be talented.

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

[quote=Ruhskins;685876]Sounds pretty much what SmootSmack said. It's a shame since he appears to be talented.[/quote]

He can be talented but if his heart is not in it, then what a shame.

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;685806]He is always hurt. He was hurt in '08 that is why Jansen played a few games. I am pretty sure he was hurt in '07 at some point too.[/quote]
Notice I said played.. not was

the year before they would've plugged someone else in.. last year they didn't have as much of a choice but to play him

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

Just a one year deal for Flozell. No problem with that. Would prefer to keep Levi Jones and draft an OT.

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

Just say no to Flo.

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

[quote=Mechanix544;685968]Just say no to Flo.[/quote]

Even if Okung makes it to us, we draft him and he is our best tackle going into the season, I still think we need a veteran left tackle on the roster. We at least need a veteran for RT even if we draft another tackle with 4th or later.

I would not feel comfortable with two rookie tackles on opening day.

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

[quote=tryfuhl;685883]Notice I said played.. not was

the year before they would've plugged someone else in.. last year they didn't have as much of a choice but to play him[/quote]


Gotcha. My point is that Heyer is not a starting tackle. He may be good enough to fill in for multiple games but he cannot be counted on to start and finish a season. If you went into the playoffs with him you better be able to leave your left tackle on an island because you are going to have to give Heyer help consistently if you expect to have a chance to beat any good team.