Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;717698]I'm going to go ahead and call it right now -

McNabb and Haynesworth (whom we'll force into the deal) to the Vikings for Percy Harvin and their 2011 1st rounder.[/quote]

Huh?

Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;717698]I'm going to go ahead and call it right now -

McNabb and Haynesworth (whom we'll force into the deal) to the Vikings for Percy Harvin and their 2011 1st rounder.[/quote]

We're going to need that 1st rounder, in order to send it to the Titans for Chris Simms (is he with the Titans? I've lost track)

Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
 

[quote=Paintrain;717694]BYUClark, care to start a Beck Bandwagon? The recently disbanded Cult of Colt left a void in Redskins land..

I hope Beck develops into a nice #2 for us. I was in Miami his rookie year and that was such an awful team around him there was no way he'd succeed. I wish he was 3 years younger but I guess it doesn't really matter. I like his pedigree and his promise coming out of college so hopefully he grows under Kyle and Mike.[/quote]

HAHA. I've always been on the Beck Bandwagon. I've followed him everywhere he went (even met him at BYU while he was training for the combine). He's a great character guy, an under-rated talent, and I've always wished for the RIGHT place for him.

Yeah, he's older, which a mission will do (averaging in a +2 difference), but that brings a certain maturity as well.

I just read an article where his dad was interviewed. Usually they talk almost every day, but he hasn't heard from John since he got to DC. There's no doubt that John takes this very seriously, and aims to give everything he has to the Skins. He's going to study like crazy (something his very high football-IQ will aid him in), and get started.

I'd be worried what exactly the Beck Bandwagon ring-leader would mean here. heh. I've always had a healthy respect for the Redskins, and a number of other teams. I've never been so much of a fan of any specific team (being raised in Oregon where there is no Professional football team to speak of). But I am a tremendous fan of the game, and have been forever (including playing as a youth for 7 years).

First, I just want to see what Beck does here. Can he jump to the #2 spot? Based on what I'm hearing (limited as it is), he very well could. Once his head stops spinning from the transition to the Skins, he'll settle down and take care of business.

I appreciate the welcome here, even as a non-long-time-historical Skins fan.

But as a lover of the game, thanks!

Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
 

Speaking of Training Camp, is there a place where one can get the BEST coverage of day to day activities?

Anyone here who frequently attends? I'm always interested to hear news of how the team is doing (and not limited to my boy, Beck).

I've got a great amount of respect for the Shanahans and all they've accomplished. McNabb is a franchise player, and followed him in Philly (with my boy Chad Lewes, retired).

Some great things can happen in Skinsville.

Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
 

[quote=SmootSmack;717747]We're going to need that 1st rounder, in order to send it to the Titans for Chris Simms (is he with the Titans? I've lost track)[/quote]

:laughing-

Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
 

[quote=SmootSmack;717747]We're going to need that 1st rounder, in order to send it to the Titans for Chris Simms (is he with the Titans? I've lost track)[/quote]

He's currently with the Cheech and Chong's.

Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
 

Looks like Beck is still impressing. I'm a BYU grad, too, BYUClark, and I enjoy seeing Beck get a second (or third, I guess) chance given the talent I watched throughout his college career. All things equal, I think he'd beat out Grossman, but given Grossman's experience with Shanahan's system in Houston, it's an uphill battle. I think he'll show enough to convince Shanahan to keep three QBs and I wouldn't be surprised if Grossman ends up getting cut later on.

[url=http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Studs-and-Duds-8610-100133979.html]Studs and Duds 8/6/10 | Washington Examiner[/url]

[QUOTE]QB John Beck. Made a few nice throws, though one was helped by a major defensive breakdown. Still, he’s starting to get comfortable. He hit Brandon Banks on a go-route down the right side (Banks dusted Ramzee Robinson) for a score. He also rolled to his right and found Lee Vickers with a sidearm toss; there was a narrow window and he squeezed it in. Beck definitely missed on some throws, but considering when he came here, he’s doing fine. Better than Colt Brennan, that’s for sure.[/QUOTE]

Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
 

[quote=BYUClark;717829]Speaking of Training Camp, is there a place where one can get the BEST coverage of day to day activities?

Anyone here who frequently attends? I'm always interested to hear news of how the team is doing (and not limited to my boy, Beck).

I've got a great amount of respect for the Shanahans and all they've accomplished. McNabb is a franchise player, and followed him in Philly (with my boy Chad Lewes, retired).

Some great things can happen in Skinsville.[/quote]

[url=http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/]Redskins Journal[/url]

[url=http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/]Redskins Confidential | Latest Redskins News | Washington Examiner[/url]

these guys post more of the meat and potatoes

if you do twitter the list of guys I follow gives you pretty much everything

[url]https://twitter.com/RedskinsRT/lists[/url]

Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
 

[quote=CooleyAsCanBe;718096]Looks like Beck is still impressing. I'm a BYU grad, too, BYUClark, and I enjoy seeing Beck get a second (or third, I guess) chance given the talent I watched throughout his college career. All things equal, I think he'd beat out Grossman, but given Grossman's experience with Shanahan's system in Houston, it's an uphill battle. I think he'll show enough to convince Shanahan to keep three QBs and I wouldn't be surprised if Grossman ends up getting cut later on.

[URL="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Studs-and-Duds-8610-100133979.html"]Studs and Duds 8/6/10 | Washington Examiner[/URL][/quote]


I hope Beck does excel and makes it. Grossman just doesn't have it, but then again like you say he does have the experience advantage. I have always cheered for the young QBs to make a move or when they did make one. Only bad thing is they never panned out(ie Frerotte, Ramsey, JC).

Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;718156]I hope Beck does excel and makes it. Grossman just doesn't have it, but then again like you say he does have the experience advantage. I have always cheered for the young QBs to make a move or when they did make one. Only bad thing is they never panned out(ie Frerotte, Ramsey, JC).[/quote]

The thing about Beck though is that he's going to be 29 (though these days thats young by QB standards) by the end of the month. It would be nice though to have a guy that could play like another Donovan backup a couple of years ago in Jeff Garcia, or better yet, lets have Donovan start his own iron man streak. Of course one of the best way to do it is to get that Denver ground game transferred to DC.

Right now though it seems like Grossman simply isn't cutting it. Even Los is intercepting him.

Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
 

[quote=Dirtbag359;718162]The thing about Beck though is that he's going to be 29 (though these days thats young by QB standards) by the end of the month. It would be nice though to have a guy that could play like another Donovan backup a couple of years ago in Jeff Garcia, or better yet, lets have Donovan start his own iron man streak. Of course one of the best way to do it is to get that Denver ground game transferred to DC.

Right now though it seems like Grossman simply isn't cutting it. Even Los is intercepting him.[/quote]


Well I can't see Shanny passing up drafting a QB or two in the next few drafts. It would be nice to have a young stud understudy to Donovan that could be able to come in and do the job when need be.

Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
 

[quote=Dirtbag359;718162]The thing about Beck though is that he's going to be 29 (though these days thats young by QB standards) by the end of the month. It would be nice though to have a guy that could play like another Donovan backup a couple of years ago in Jeff Garcia, or better yet, lets have Donovan start his own iron man streak. Of course one of the best way to do it is to get that Denver ground game transferred to DC.

Right now though it seems like Grossman simply isn't cutting it. Even Los is intercepting him.[/quote]

mcnabb has thrown a few himself.. quite a few batted down as well... hopefully it works itself out

Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;718174]Well I can't see Shanny passing up drafting a QB or two in the next few drafts. It would be nice to have a young stud understudy to Donovan that could be able to come in and do the job when need be.[/quote]

Not in the first round though. Not unless he's the next Jay Cutler or John Elway talent-wise. For all the crap Cutler gets, he was really a beast when he played for Shanahan.

Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
 

By 2013 I think we will go for a first round QB for sure, if not sooner. If Donovan doesn't turn out to be the savior, you will have to draft one in the next few years. IF Donovan lives up to expectation you still need a young QB to give the team a strong backup and a potential succesor to McNabb. If Beck works out great, but to be honest the duo of Beck and Bartel isn't so promising on paper, and Grossman sucks. You can't expect to build for the long term around #5, since he realistically only has 5 years left, with a possible shelf life of only 3. WE can't put our eggs all in one basket is my drift.

Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;718191]Not in the first round though. Not unless he's the next Jay Cutler or John Elway talent-wise. For all the crap Cutler gets, he was really a beast when he played for Shanahan.[/quote]

Yeah, the thing that ticks me off with the medias views of Cutler and Shanahan is they keep talking about the average win loss record. I've said it before but Drew Brees and Sean Peyton were 7-9 two years ago. To pin an entire teams performance on the QB is absurd.