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CB Barnes, FS Otogwe, SS Landry, CB Hall as our starting secondary.

Resign Buchannon as our nickel, and keep Moore as our backup safety. Wouldnt have to worry about the secondary in the draft which leaves more picks available for other positions on the defense. Maybe need to sign a few undrafted DBs to compete for a roster spot. Im thinking Rogers will be too expensive to resign.

Would love for Von Miller to fall to us, but Quinn or Aldon Smith wouldnt be bad choices either.

D could really improve if we can get a good outside rusher opposite of Rak daddy along with already improved secondary.

Re: REAL football news - Skins sign Atogwe!
 

[quote=SmootSmack;787633]He was supposed to be let go yesterday I thought. Not sure why he wasn't. I don't think he's in their plans though[/quote]


The last 2 or 3 games he played in he didn't do that bad. NT is a really big concern if we don't get Bryant some first string help. Luckily, this draft has a few good candidates that can play the nose.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;787563]So, given that:
1- your pro's (proven player, apparent good contract) aren't enough for you to have a positive response,
2- the team has more pressing needs (at least NT and QB) that have to be addressed in the draft

[B]How should the team have addressed the FS spot in your opinion? or are you saying that you are good with Doughty/Moore until a high draft pick could be used for the position.[/quote][/B]

IMO go get a guy in the later rounds. Find a diamond in the rough. Coach up Moore and get him healthy. That's how I'd address it. Chasing a 30 year old safety when you're not contending for a Super Bowl makes 0 sense.

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OJ and Hasslett work well together. OJ is a proven NFL caliber FS, that is talented and athletic and produces. He plays the QB position of the secondary. You entrust that to Kareem Moore? I do not. Let Kareem learn and develop under OJ. I still feel Kareem is going to a good FS one day. He is not ready to lead at this time. OJ is ready to lead.
The FS position is too important to leave to a bunch of question mark type players.

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Happy with it.

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[quote=skinsfan69;787640][/B]

IMO go get a guy in the later rounds. Find a diamond in the rough. Coach up Moore and get him healthy. That's how I'd address it. Chasing a 30 year old safety when you're not contending for a Super Bowl makes 0 sense.[/quote]


IDK about that man, sometimes it's not JUST about getting to a SB first.. You have to make a division run first.. Bottom Line is The guy will help our defense improve.

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So is OJA set on a Number?

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Great signing. Glad he didn't try to get ST jersey #. He's 30 which is a bit risky IMO. My friend lives in St. Louis and is a die-hard rams fan and said he's a ballhawk who just didn't fit Spag's scheme last year which was why his numbers were down a bit, but has improved his tackling each year he's been in the league. Hopefully we can get 3-4 solid years from him.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;787643]IDK about that man, sometimes it's not JUST about getting to a SB first.. You have to make a division run first.. Bottom Line is The guy will help our defense improve.[/quote]

I just don't agree with signing a 30 year old safety on a bad team. OJ is not the long term solution IMO. But he's an upgrade so it is what it is.

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[quote=skinsfan69;787646]I just don't agree with signing a 30 year old safety on a bad team. OJ is not the long term solution IMO. But he's an upgrade so it is what it is.[/quote]

So we are not to sign any players near 30? Yes, in a perfect world you want a young team. But the world is not perfect and no team is perfect in selecting players. Fielding some veterans mixed in with youth is not a bad thing. In fact the veterans provide leadership and teach the young guys how to play in the NFL. A larger percentage of college football players are NOT ready to play in the NFL. That is real. You talk about finding a diamond n the rough in the later rounds. That is easier said then done. If it were easy you would be a GM in the NFL.

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Yeah and Atogwe has the third best number of turnovers since he joined the league. Definate upgrade. Imagine him with Landry. Great pick up.

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Good move, not great, but good. It's a solid start and with the addition of a rush backer and a NT, we could see a great improvement in our defense. That's not to say that there won't be more growing pains, but we should see a better d. Hell, Atogwe can also provide the leadership and mentoring to help other guys in the secondary. The impact guys like him and Fletcher can have on a defense with just their football smarts can often outweigh any perceived loss in athletic ability.

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Yes NT has no good players in FA that aren't ancient. OLB seems to me like Shannahan wants to go young and compliment Orakapo. So they both seem to be draft picks.

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IMO go get a guy in the later rounds. Find a diamond in the rough. Coach up Moore and get him healthy. That's how I'd address it. Chasing a 30 year old safety when you're not contending for a Super Bowl makes 0 sense.[/quote]

A late round safety like Doughty, Horton, Moore...

It's ok to pick up older players if your not trading away picks to get them. As long as we keep our picks we will begin to get younger naturally. So plugging in older guys that still have the fire an we don't over pay isn't a bad thing while we draft our asses off. The problem was our past poor judgment when selecting these vets, then over paying them and them not giving a damn anymore. I think OHA being reunited with hasslet and seeing the rawness of Landry will keep him excited and hungry.