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[quote=GTripp0012;871540]Drew Brees' ring has gone missing!

Pro QB's also don't throw for 5,000 yards. Those are college numbers anyway.[/quote]

I like the humor but you're not suggesting that Brees and RG# played in a similar offense in college..are you??

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I hope we draft him, but he's going to be long gone by the 6th pick... and I don't want to give up the farm to get him.

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Great, he's declared. Go get him Shanahan, Allena and Snyder!

When you have a potential franchise QB staring you in the face, you don't shy away from it.

Yes it will probably cost us this year's 1st, 2nd, (and maybe 4th) and next year's 1st, but oh well. The Giants traded more than that for Eli Manning and I doubt they care given what he has done for them. After the McNabb fiasco and the disaster that was last year with Grossman and Beck, Shanahan and this organization can not afford to whiff on this position any longer.

Also, the Skins have an extra 4th rounder that they got from the Raiders anyway. So *if* we have to give up one, we would still have another 4th rounder.

With all of the wide receivers that will be available in FA (Colston, Bowe, Meachem, Vincent Jackson, Desean Jackson, Stevie Johnson), the Skins could very easily find their #1 in one of them and Shanahan has already shown that he can find talent deep in the draft. Giving up a few picks for a potential franchise QB is not going to kill this organization or set us back - certainly not more than the merry-go-round of awful to mediocre QB play has.

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[quote=Cassadine;874662]Great, he's declared. Go get him Shanahan, Allena and Snyder!

When you have a potential franchise QB staring you in the face, you don't shy away from it.

Yes it will probably cost us this year's 1st, 2nd, (and maybe 4th) and next year's 1st, but oh well. The Giants traded more than that for Eli Manning and I doubt they care given what he has done for them. After the McNabb fiasco and the disaster that was last year with Grossman and Beck, Shanahan and this organization can not afford to whiff on this position any longer.

Also, the Skins have an extra 4th rounder that they got from the Raiders anyway. So *if* we have to give up one, we would still have another 4th rounder.

With all of the wide receivers that will be available in FA (Colston, Bowe, Meachem, Vincent Jackson, Desean Jackson, Stevie Johnson), the Skins could very easily find their #1 in one of them and Shanahan has already shown that he can find talent deep in the draft. Giving up a few picks for a potential franchise QB is not going to kill this organization or set us back.[/quote]

We still wouldn't be able to trump the Brown's package if they wanted to move up as well. Our only hope falls on whether they want RGIII or not. If they do, we are ****ed. They are currently sitting on 2 first round picks this year.

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[quote=celts32;874639]Chris Mortensen @mortreport 7m
No surprise: Baylor QB Robert Griffin III is informing Baylor coach Art Briles today he is turning pro, per family source. #ESPN #NFL32[/quote]

DAMNIT! This is a tremendous blow to next years class. Quick someone convince Luck to go back to Stanford.

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[quote=NC_Skins;874666]We still wouldn't be able to trump the Brown's package if they wanted to move up as well. Our only hope falls on whether they want RGIII or not. If they do, we are ****ed. They are currently sitting on 2 first round picks this year.[/quote]

Ehhh, I seriously doubt that the Browns will trade away picks to get a QB. Not Holmgren's style and goes against everything he's said in recent weeks about how difficult it is to try to build a team without having a good level of support around the QB in multiple positions. QB is the least of the Brown's issues and I think he knows this (at least enough to not want to get in a bidding war with the Redskins when he doesn't have a #1 WR, wont' have a #1 RB, his most productive TE will be a FA, and no offensive line).

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[quote=Cassadine;874674]Ehhh, I seriously doubt that the Browns will trade away picks to get a QB. Not Holmgren's style and goes against everything he's said in recent weeks about how difficult it is to try to build a team without having a good level of support around the QB in multiple positions. [B]QB is the least of the Brown's issues and I think he knows this [/B](at least enough to not want to get in a bidding war with the Redskins when he doesn't have a #1 WR, wont' have a #1 RB, his most productive TE will be a FA, and no offensive line).[/quote]

If you don't have a viable QB it's always the most important issue.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;874668]DAMNIT! This is a tremendous blow to next years class. Quick someone convince Luck to go back to Stanford.[/quote]

On my way there now!!!!!!!

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;874697]On my way there now!!!!!!![/quote]

Good. Just remember to make up something about how you're worthless if you don't win a national championship and how architecture firms want candidates to take a bunch of classes that he's never taken like movement and equestrian.

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[quote=Cassadine;874674]Ehhh, I seriously doubt that the Browns will trade away picks to get a QB. Not Holmgren's style and goes against everything he's said in recent weeks about how difficult it is to try to build a team without having a good level of support around the QB in multiple positions. QB is the least of the Brown's issues and I think he knows this (at least enough to not want to get in a bidding war with the Redskins when he doesn't have a #1 WR, wont' have a #1 RB, his most productive TE will be a FA, and no offensive line).[/quote]

Joe thomas is a beast. Admittedly, I know no one else on their oline.

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[quote=SkinItup;874907]Joe thomas is a beast. Admittedly, I know no one else on their oline.[/quote]

Their center Alex Mack is probably one of the best in the NFL. Their OL isn't all that bad.

[QUOTE=irish;871643]Dan Marino did. Its not about numbers it about style. Brees is a passer who can elude pressure and extend plays. RGIII is another version of Michael Vick (a runner who is an ok passer) and that doesnt win Super Bowls. Sure RGIII threw for a bunch of yards but in college WRs are open by yards and in the pros its inches so college numbers are often misleading. I'm just not sure about RGIII's accuracy.[/QUOTE]

The reason Mike Vick doesn't win SuperBowls isn't his style of playing, it's that he doesn't have the clutch gene and doesn't lead. If his style is good enough to win games( he has) completely dominate teams( he has) get to playoffs ( he has) get to superbowl (he has) then its good enough to win one. He hasn't because he's a bum. Maybe RG3 has that clutch/big game mentality.

This team just needs a shot of excitement at the QB position. Run for it, pass, I don't care at this point, just not the same boring ass vanilla qb play we've had for 15 years. Plus, our receivers are ancient, we're gonna need someone that can run around a little bit and extend plays.

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[quote=WilbursHomie;874915]The reason Mike Vick doesn't win SuperBowls isn't his style of playing, it's that he doesn't have the clutch gene and doesn't lead. If his style is good enough to win games( he has) completely dominate teams( he has) get to playoffs ( he has) get to superbowl (he has) then its good enough to win one. He hasn't because he's a bum. Maybe RG3 has that clutch/big game mentality.[/quote]


When did he play in a super bowl?

Also this may come as a surprise but the QB is not the only cog in how a team performs.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;874681]If you don't have a viable QB it's always the most important issue.[/quote]How many teams don't have a viable quarterback though? I mean, the Raiders lost theirs and acquired another one two days later.

When we talk teams without viable QBs, we're essentially talking about the Redskins, Dolphins, and a big group of maybes: maybe the Seahawks (ignoring that Tarvaris Jackson was pretty well managed this year), maybe the Jets, maybe the Rams, maybe the Jaguars, maybe the Cardinals, maybe the Vikings.

Everyone else in the league has someone they can count on. And even the teams that don't necessarily have that need solves (like the Rams) ARE already counting on somebody.

The common thread in the teams that are looking for QBs is that their offenses struggled this past season. Which as far as I'm concerned, flies right in the face of the QB always being the most important issue. For most the teams on the list (5/8), it's not that they haven't drafted a quarterback, it's that their drafted QB has had uneven production.

The Redskins and Seahawks are pretty much alone in not having a homegrown QB on their roster. It's not an issue for 30/32 teams.