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mooby 12-28-2017 09:38 PM

Re: Tax bill
 
Idk why it won't let me quote your post Schneed but whatever. I know the point is not to spur job creation, but to increase tax revenue by bringing companies back to paying in the US because it's cheaper than overseas. We had that conversation already.

My point is it's ironic how job creation is this big issue when Obama is president, but magically it's a non-issue under Trump. I guess everything will fall in line now that tax reform has passed.

Schneed10 12-28-2017 11:10 PM

Re: Tax bill
 
[quote=mooby;1184291]Idk why it won't let me quote your post Schneed but whatever. I know the point is not to spur job creation, but to increase tax revenue by bringing companies back to paying in the US because it's cheaper than overseas. We had that conversation already.

My point is it's ironic how job creation is this big issue when Obama is president, but magically it's a non-issue under Trump. I guess everything will fall in line now that tax reform has passed.[/quote]

Yeah, the unemployment rate is what, 4% now? It’s not an issue. Obama inherited (through no fault of his own) a high unemployment rate. It was a focus because it was a problem.

MTK 12-29-2017 07:19 AM

Re: Tax bill
 
Trump is the one touting one of the major benefits of the bill as more jobs

CRedskinsRule 12-29-2017 10:06 AM

Re: Tax bill
 
[url=http://www.whec.com/news/cuomo-responds-federal-tax-reform-plan-changes-state-structure/4723810/]Gov. Cuomo considering changes to state taxes in response to federal tax reform plan | WHEC.com[/url]

So high tax states can change their tax code to adapt to the new plan, SHOCKING.

As I said before, if the states don't want to be hit, then change their code to work within the new structure. Nothing wrong with that. I wonder if Cuomo and the NY legislature will actually carry through with it?

MTK 12-29-2017 10:22 AM

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NY really can’t take much more of a hit so I think Cuomo will get something done

Chico23231 12-29-2017 12:40 PM

Re: Tax bill
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1184315][url=http://www.whec.com/news/cuomo-responds-federal-tax-reform-plan-changes-state-structure/4723810/]Gov. Cuomo considering changes to state taxes in response to federal tax reform plan | WHEC.com[/url]

So high tax states can change their tax code to adapt to the new plan, SHOCKING.

As I said before, if the states don't want to be hit, then change their code to work within the new structure. Nothing wrong with that. I wonder if Cuomo and the NY legislature will actually carry through with it?[/quote]

Wow...huge positive imo. Good for New York. But we know who will benefit the most...G1 linked a chart early this week.

CRedskinsRule 12-29-2017 12:46 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1184336]Wow...huge positive imo. Good for New York. But we know who will benefit the most...G1 linked a chart early this week.[/quote]

I wonder if NY citizens will thank Trump for forcing a change in their tax code.

:welcome:

MTK 12-29-2017 01:02 PM

Re: Tax bill
 
[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1184337]I wonder if NY citizens will thank Trump for forcing a change in their tax code.



:welcome:[/QUOTE]


Upstate probably would, the city and LI not so much

CRedskinsRule 12-29-2017 01:22 PM

Re: Tax bill
 
[quote=MTK;1184340]Upstate probably would, the city and LI not so much[/quote]

That post encapsulates the whole schism in the country. Most non-city dwellers see life extremely different then the more rural areas. And there are a ton of real life differences that space and/or the lack of space that skew perceptions across a whole spectrum of political questions. It's as great an issue this country has ever faced - and while not new, it is being exacerbated in our political climate.

Giantone 12-29-2017 02:04 PM

Re: Tax bill
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1184337]I wonder if NY citizens will thank Trump for forcing a change in their tax code.

:welcome:[/quote]

Why? Had trump and Ryan not fucked the country with this tax bill to rob the middle class this would not be necessary and MTK is right about who will benefit more.

CRedskinsRule 12-29-2017 02:15 PM

Re: Tax bill
 
[quote=Giantone;1184344]Why? Had trump and Ryan not fucked the country with this tax bill to rob the middle class this would not be necessary and MTK is right about who will benefit more.[/quote]

I'll put you in the 44% that strongly disapprove.:food-smil

Giantone 12-29-2017 07:34 PM

Re: Tax bill
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1184345]I'll put you in the 44% that strongly disapprove.:food-smil[/quote]

Fine and with the other 35 percent that just (not strongly) "disagree" ,that's a good amount.

CRedskinsRule 12-29-2017 11:33 PM

Re: Tax bill
 
[QUOTE=Giantone;1184365]Fine and with the other 35 percent that just (not strongly) "disagree" ,that's a good amount.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify: It's not an additional 35percent that just disapprove.
It's 53percent total that disapprove, of which 44percent strongly disapprove.

So if you had 100 people you would take 53 of them as the total that disapprove, then 44 of those 53 people strongly disapprove and 9 disapprove.

Giantone 12-30-2017 06:26 AM

Re: Tax bill
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1184371]Just to clarify: It's not an additional 35percent that just disapprove.
It's 53percent total that disapprove, of which 44percent strongly disapprove.

So if you had 100 people you would take 53 of them as the total that disapprove, then 44 of those 53 people strongly disapprove and 9 disapprove.[/quote]
Yes ,I understand it ,I was being sarcastic before I see that was wasted here.
LOL, so now trump supporters like polls?


[url]https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/19/poll-gop-tax-bill-304831[/url]


it's still a majority how ever you look at it.


[url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/19/politics/cnn-poll-tax-bill-opposition-grows/index.html]Public opposition to tax bill grows as vote approaches - CNNPolitics[/url]

Giantone 12-30-2017 06:27 AM

Re: Tax bill
 
[quote=MTK;1184302]Trump is the one touting one of the major benefits of the bill as more jobs[/quote]

..................and there is this.


[url]https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/28/new-tax-bill-may-force-retailers-to-hire-less-automate-more.html?__source=xfinity|mod&par=xfinity[/url]


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