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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;383510]Let's keep the politics out of this thread. Thanks.[/quote]

Whatever.

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[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;383516]Whatever.[/QUOTE]

Huh? All I ask is that we keep this thread respectful and not mix politics with this tragedy.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;383510]Let's keep the politics out of this thread. Thanks.[/quote]

Well politics aside, think about how this situation could have turned out of ST had a gun. I mean he was arrested on gun charges awhile back, correct? I wonder why he didn't legally register himself to own a gun. I'm kind of an anti-gun person in most situations, but if I'm rich and famous damned if I'm not owning one.

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Right now on Comcast sportsnet they are saying he is "Clinging to life in Intensive Care"
Our Prayers go out to Sean ...
They are saying Sharpstein is saying he is in Very very bad shape..
Not Looking good guys... Please I dont care what religion you are. or if you are athiest or what ever do what ever you have to worship who you have to .. that Sean survives.. then we worry about him playing again. They are saying that IF he does survive this there is a possibility of brain damage due to the amount of loss of blood.

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980 is reporting that Taylor was shot in the femur.

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Thoughts and prayers go out to ST and his family. I'm interning at Redskins Park these days (ha, betcha didn't know the warpath had an insider!) but I've heard nothing new all day. I'm hoping he pulls through, the trainer leaving with Portis and Snyder is a good sign. Ok, it's nothing, I'm grasping at straws, but my thoughts and prayers are with Sean.

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[QUOTE=Darrell_Green_28;383519]Right now on redskins tv they are saying he is "Clinging to life in Intensive Care"
Our Prayers go out to Sean ...
They are saying Sharpstein is saying he is in Very very bad shape..
Not Looking good guys... Please I dont care what religion you are. or if you are athiest or what ever do what ever you have to worship who you have to .. that Sean survives.. then we worry about him playing again. They are saying that IF he does survive this there is a possibility of brain damage due to the amount of loss of blood.[/QUOTE]

It's all unknown at this point. We still don't even know if his coma was induced by the doctors. We've heard reports that he needed to be revived. We've heard that he may be brain damaged. We've heard that he could die. We've heard so many things I don't know what to think.

But, by all accounts he bled profusely and his femoral artery was ruptured, if not severed. It doesn't look good, but everything is up in the air.

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Probably not going to get any updates for a little while, regardless of his condition.

Unbelievably tragic. Everyone pray for this young man and his family. Truly something unexpected, and football has to take a back seat for a little bit. This is far bigger than any trivial football bs. Save any speculative talk, save any political talk... there will be time for everything. Right now, we don't know if he's even going to live...

I'll be glued to the television at work today, and hoping he pulls through. He's an athlete, and if anyone stands a chance at surviving something like this it's Sean Taylor. Hope everyone turns out for the best-

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A CNN reporter was just on Washington Post Live (on Comcast) and he said there was a break in at the house on November 18th. Apparently nothing was taken during that break in, but it seems odd that there would be a break in a week before.

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God bless Sean, his family, and anyone that he has ever touched.

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sorry meant comcast sportsnet not redskins tv... but i understand what youre saying SGG..Either way PRAY

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;383525]A CNN reporter was just on Washington Post Live (on Comcast) and he said there was a break in at the house on November 18th. Apparently nothing was taken during that break in, but it seems odd that there would be a break in a week before.[/QUOTE]

And the Maimi Herald reported that a knife was left on his bed. So, it [I]appears[/I] as though this was probably a targeted attack.

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Gibbs is about to address the media the first time...if you're interested, they are about to show it on comcast sports net

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Here comes Gibbs Press conferene at Redskins.com

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I can't watch it right now cause I'm at school in the computer lab so please update us on what Gibbs says during the press conference.

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please keep us updated.

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Gibbs is basically talking about how the team and the players reacted to the shooting, that he can't describe how everyone feels, that he has never been through anything like this, etc. I'll keep updating you. He hasn't said anything about Taylor's condition.

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he knew how much his baby meant to him... how much he's matured...

He seems very emotional as we all are

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My father served in Vietnam in the 60s. He once saw a soldier get shot in the groin, ruptured his femoral artery (like Sean) and he bled to death in less than 1-2 minutes. My dad said blood was just shooting out of the poor guy in great spurts. There was nothing anyone could do to save him. It being wartime, the round was probably pretty high-caliber compared to whatever the would-be burglars were using, but if Sean got hit there, he probably bled out fairly quickly. Then how long did it take to get him to the hospital -- an hour, maybe 45 minutes? That's a long time for his brain to be without oxygen. This just doesn't look good to me but I hope I'm wrong. My thoughts and prayers are with Sean Taylor and his family. Life is short and tragic events happen quickly. Let's all be thankful for our own brief and fragile lives, and for those of our loved ones today.

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Gibbs said he will not be going down to Miami for the time being. ST told the team how his house was broken into last week but Gibbs doesn't know why ST traveled back to Miami.

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[url=http://lightningstream.surfernetwork.com/Media/player/view/wwxx3.asp?call=wwxx&skin=WWXX]WWXX[/url]

listen to it

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Asked how to prepare the team after this Gibbs said he doesnt know he has never been through anything like this.

Talks about Seans maturation while with the skins.

Talking about why Sean stayed at home, and didn't travel with the team.

Talks about how Sean missed a meetin last week because of the break in last week.

He sounds like hes about to cry, its upsetting.

Doesnt know anything bout his medical condition.

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[quote=DGreene28;383534][B]he knew how much his baby meant to him... how much he's matured... [/B]

He seems very emotional as we all are[/quote]

I too think he has matured. He definitely doesn't seem like the somewhat brash ST of the past. He seems quieter, keeps a level head on his shoulders, works hard and stays out of trouble. Well deserving of praise for the strides he has made not only as a football player but as a man as well.

Which is why what Michael Wilbon said makes no sense to me. I hate how Wilbon thinks he's talking for "Black men" Wilbon doesn't know jack and I wish he'd stop lumping ST into the "Bad, angry Black men" category and just shut his mouth and stick to writing for the Post.

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[QUOTE=Ghost;383535]My father served in Vietnam in the 60s. He once saw a soldier get shot in the groin, ruptured his femoral artery (like Sean) and he bled to death in less than 1-2 minutes. My dad said blood was just shooting out of the poor guy in great spurts. There was nothing anyone could do to save him. It being wartime, the round was probably pretty high-caliber compared to whatever the would-be burglars were using, but if Sean got hit there, he probably bled out fairly quickly. Then how long did it take to get him to the hospital -- an hour, maybe 45 minutes? That's a long time for his brain to be without oxygen. This just doesn't look good to me but I hope I'm wrong. My thoughts and prayers are with Sean Taylor and his family. Life is short and tragic events happen quickly. Let's all be thankful for our own brief and fragile lives, and for those of our loved ones today.[/QUOTE]

We also don't know whether the artery was merely pierced or totally severed. If it was severed, it's unlikely that ST will recover. If it wasn't fully severed, who knows what will happen.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;383533]Gibbs is basically talking about how the team and the players reacted to the shooting, that he can't describe how everyone feels, that he has never been through anything like this, etc. I'll keep updating you. He hasn't said anything about Taylor's condition.[/quote]

He said he doesn't know any current exact specifics of Taylor medically, but did confirm that Taylor's house was broken into back on the 18th. He also said he didn't know why Taylor was back in Miami this past weekend. So the team didn't know he was leaving town. Great. More shit for the media to jump on.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;383541]We also don't know whether the artery was merely pierced or totally severed. If it was severed, it's unlikely that ST will recover. If it wasn't fully severed, who knows what will happen.[/QUOTE]

Good point. I'm hoping that's the case.

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A reporter just made a good point about Gibbs seeking out advice from other coaches around the football world who have dealt w/ this kind of stuff.

I don't like that he keeps referring to Sean in the past tense.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;383541]We also don't know whether the artery was merely pierced or totally severed. If it was severed, it's unlikely that ST will recover. If it wasn't fully severed, who knows what will happen.[/QUOTE]

One of the articles referred to in this thread said it was "severed"
Most articles say this unfortunately

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Please, more updates. I'm at a library and can't use the media player.

Hang in there, Sean!

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I feel so horrible today. Like when Reggie Lewis died (I still have his rookie card in my wallet to this day). I feel like this is worst becuse it dragged out but, there is (will be) a chance of a happy ending.

ST was my fav, after Lavar left. I use to think I felt like shit after a Redskin lost this is a whole new level of shitty. =(

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Well the Gibbs presser was upsetting. Gibbs was obviously upset, and basically no new information except that he didn't know why Taylor was in Miami last night. But he did say that he has no policy against players going home unless they're going to miss something.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;383540]
Which is why what Michael Wilbon said makes no sense to me. I hate how Wilbon thinks he's talking for "Black men" Wilbon doesn't know jack and I wish he'd stop lumping ST into the "Bad, angry Black men" category and just shut his mouth and stick to writing for the Post.[/quote]

You are spot on. The 'angry black man' stereo-type is exactly what we are seeing in the reporting of this incident and Wilbon is no different than any of the other media outlets. Even if this incident is somehow tied to previous events such as the ATV incident (which obviously we don't know), that does not change the fact that Sean has matured greatly, has become a student of the game, and was living life for his family. Wilbon is just wrong and he should admit as much publicly, though I know he never will.

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[QUOTE=skinsnut;383545]One of the articles referred to in this thread said it was "severed"
Most articles say this unfortunately[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I just don't know if that is the case and hoping that it is not. If it was severed around 1:45 a.m. and the cops didn't get there until 2:00, he probably didn't reach the hospital for at least 30 minutes. Given the timeline and the tone of his attorney's statements (and I'm speculating here), I don't think things look too good for Sean. This has to be the worst thing that I can recall happening to the Redskins organization and fans.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;383540]I too think he has matured. He definitely doesn't seem like the somewhat brash ST of the past. He seems quieter, keeps a level head on his shoulders, works hard and stays out of trouble. Well deserving of praise for the strides he has made not only as a football player but as a man as well.

Which is why what Michael Wilbon said makes no sense to me. I hate how Wilbon thinks he's talking for "Black men" Wilbon doesn't know jack and I wish he'd stop lumping ST into the "Bad, angry Black men" category and just shut his mouth and stick to writing for the Post.[/quote]

Rave, you hit. I usually gobble up Wilbon's commentary hook, line, and sinker. Not this time...and not just because it's a Redskin involved. My favorite Redskin, mind you.

My critisim of the media, and specifically Wilbon, is that Taylor is being characterized as a young angry black man. While I'm not defending any of Taylor's past actions, (and this really isn't the forum to be discusing it, but since you struck a nerve) it's so convenient for the media to cast him in a negative light. Whatever happened to the human component of reporting? Since when does "freedom of speech" give us license to kick someone when they're down and futher dehumanize them?

As far as I'm concerned, the bigger and unfortunate tragady here, is not the victim in this incident, Sean Taylor, but how we as civilized human beings can be so hypocritical and darn right judgemental.

I wonder which one does Mike Wilbon think is worse - the murder of an individual or the murder of one's character?

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Profootballtalk.com/rumormill is "reporting" the following:

[B]CONFLICTING INFORMATION ON TAYLOR by Michael David Smith [/B]

Redskins safety Sean Taylor is in critical condition in a Miami hospital, and there is conflicting information about his prognosis.

Amy Shipley of the Washington Post said on ESPNews this afternoon that "Several family members have told us he's doing alright."

However, Manny Navarro of the Miami Herald reports that family and friends of Taylor told him that the gunshot wound to his femoral artery caused so much blood loss that it has affected his brain, and Taylor is expected to have "a long road back to recovery."

Although at this point everyone is more concerned about Taylor's life than his football career, Navarro reports that sources told him Taylor's playing career is likely over.

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that was back in Miami this weekend because he wanted to check in on his home, which was robbed last week, and because he wanted to get a second opinion on his knee from Dr. John Uribe. It is not known whether there is any connection between the incident at his home last week and the shooting early this morning.

Taylor is engaged to be married to his longtime girlfriend. He has a 1-year-old son.

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I don't know ST from Adam, I'm not going to act like I do, I'm also white as a snowflake and I cannot even begin to act as though I am "down with the struggle" like Wilbon seems to think he is. All I can do is go by what I've seen in the papers, and ST doesn't strike me as a "Pacman Jones" type of person or some type of black crusader born and raised in the hood. He seems like if anything he was a little naive and immature to start out, and made a few bad choices...the justice system has taken it's course, ST has paid his penalties and stayed clean since...IMO Wilbon needs to come down off his sanctimonious high horse and STFU...

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Here's the police [URL="http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2007/11/26/15/taylor_policereport.source.prod_affiliate.56.pdf"]document[/URL] from the previous break-in.

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According to Washington Post Live, Taylor has been "unresponsive" since the shooting. I do not know whether that is because he is in a coma induced by the blood loss, a coma induced by the doctors, or because he has lost all brain function.

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However, Manny Navarro of the Miami Herald reports that family and friends of Taylor told him that the gunshot wound to his femoral artery caused so much blood loss that it has affected his brain, and Taylor is expected to have "a long road back to recovery."

Ok, this statement does not make any sense as it would be way to early to tell if he has any brain damage.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;383560]According to Washington Post Live, Taylor has been "unresponsive" since the shooting. I do not know whether that is because he is in a coma induced by the blood loss, a coma induced by the doctors, or because he has lost all brain function.[/quote]

Good question. I think if he was brain dead, they'd just out right say it. Or maybe they wouldn't. Unresponsive to me, the first thing I would think of is a coma. Until I hear that he's brain dead, I'm at least praying for a recovery. Any type of recovery, so long as he's alive.