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[quote=Mattyk72;534187]The cap info here is not official, but it's usually very close.[/quote]

It seemed reasonable to me, but i just had to mention it as a possibility. Considering the number of needs we have, it doesnt make sense for us to just be sitting on our butts and not doing anything to improve our team with that money now, especially considering we only have 2 draft picks that have a realistic possiblity to produce key contributors in 2009. There are still quite a few quality players out there - why arent we doing anything with the cap space?

Things are just not adding up.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;534167]I'm a bit confused by something. According to the information on this site, the Redskins are 12-13M under the cap.

However, this mornings RedskinsInsider blog had this to say,

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/03/does_to_make_sense_for_skins.html#more"]Does T.O. Make Sense for Skins? - Redskins Insider[/URL]



How can we have 12-13M in cap space, yet have "little flexibility"? It just doesnt make sense. Any thoughts?[/quote]

Fair question. It's likely because Vinny probably said "little flexibility" before they cut Jason Taylor. JLCs says "Cerrato recently said". It depends on how "recent" JLC's definition of recent is. If it was said before Taylor was cut, then it was true at the time. But now that he has been released, we have mad flexibility. And this makes sense, Vinny was trying to negotiate a restructure with Taylor and didn't expect him to balk at the workout bonus. He was thrown for a loop and then decided it was best to cut him.

When they released Taylor they went from having something like $3 million to having upwards of $11 million. That takes you from not much flexibility to lots of flexibility overnight.

As for the cap information on this site, trust me it's right. I like to think my MBA in Finance wasn't for naught. CC is quite an accountant himself, I've examined his stuff thoroughly and it's right on from my perspective. Further, there's another cap source out there who's also a strong accountant, and CC's numbers tie out to his.

We have to use estimates from time to time to develop cap hits, this is done when we don't have accurate sources for contract info. But those estimates are always in the ballpark. At least close enough to say with certainty that after releasing Jason Taylor the Skins have plenty of flexibility.

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We could sign TO if we wanted.

[ducks and covers]

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[quote=Schneed10;534205]We could sign TO if we wanted.

[ducks and covers][/quote]

Allow me to show people's reaction to this...

:soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox:

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vet min!

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[quote=Schneed10;534204]Fair question. It's likely because Vinny probably said "little flexibility" before they cut Jason Taylor. JLCs says "Cerrato recently said". It depends on how "recent" JLC's definition of recent is. If it was said before Taylor was cut, then it was true at the time. But now that he has been released, we have mad flexibility. And this makes sense, Vinny was trying to negotiate a restructure with Taylor and didn't expect him to balk at the workout bonus. He was thrown for a loop and then decided it was best to cut him.

When they released Taylor they went from having something like $3 million to having upwards of $11 million. That takes you from not much flexibility to lots of flexibility overnight.

As for the cap information on this site, trust me it's right. I like to think my MBA in Finance wasn't for naught. CC is quite an accountant himself, I've examined his stuff thoroughly and it's right on from my perspective. Further, there's another cap source out there who's also a strong accountant, and CC's numbers tie out to his.

We have to use estimates from time to time to develop cap hits, this is done when we don't have accurate sources for contract info. But those estimates are always in the ballpark. At least close enough to say with certainty that after releasing Jason Taylor the Skins have plenty of flexibility.[/quote]


Thanks for the response. For what its worth, the Times reported today that we have 6M in cap room. That number doesnt seem like it would fit a pre- or post- cut of JT analysis based on the numbers you've been working with as starting points.

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/Mar/05/willis-first-free-agent-visit-redskins/]Willis the first free agent to visit Redskins - Redskins 360 - Washington Redskins Blog - The Washington Times[/url]

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;534265]Thanks for the response. For what its worth, the Times reported today that we have 6M in cap room. That number doesnt seem like it would fit a pre- or post- cut of JT analysis based on the numbers you've been working with as starting points.

[URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/Mar/05/willis-first-free-agent-visit-redskins/"]Willis the first free agent to visit Redskins - Redskins 360 - Washington Redskins Blog - The Washington Times[/URL][/quote]

Depending on the source the cap room varies greatly, but we're usually pretty close to the real number. I honestly don't know where the WT gets their info but $6M makes no sense at all. That would mean we were in the red for $2M before releasing Taylor.

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[quote=Mattyk72;534276]Depending on the source the cap room varies greatly, but we're usually pretty close to the real number. I honestly don't know where the WT gets their info but $6M makes no sense at all. That would mean we were in the red for $2M before releasing Taylor.[/quote]

I actually saw an article (can't remember source) showing us in the red before the Taylor cut. It wasn't by $2M, closer to $1M i think.

... this cap stuff always confuses.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;534265]Thanks for the response. For what its worth, the Times reported today that we have 6M in cap room. That number doesnt seem like it would fit a pre- or post- cut of JT analysis based on the numbers you've been working with as starting points.

[URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/Mar/05/willis-first-free-agent-visit-redskins/"]Willis the first free agent to visit Redskins - Redskins 360 - Washington Redskins Blog - The Washington Times[/URL][/quote]

Not to be arrogant, but $6M is flat out wrong. If you choose to believe in that number, be my guest. Not sure what else I can say.

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[quote=The Goat;534291]I actually saw an article (can't remember source) showing us in the red before the Taylor cut. It wasn't by $2M, closer to $1M i think.

... this cap stuff always confuses.[/quote]

Same here. i think it was a times article as well.

[quote=Schneed10;534312]Not to be arrogant, but $6M is flat out wrong. If you choose to believe in that number, be my guest. Not sure what else I can say.[/quote]

I have no reason not to beleive the numbers you provide here - im sorry if i gave off that impression. I dont think its arrogant to stand by your work either. You are confident in the work youve done, and the numbers make sense.

I'm just confused because the numbers here seem to conflict with what the Post and the Times are indicating - that we dont have alot of room to play with. The fact that we havent been very active in signing guys since we cut Taylor also confirms that - for whatever reason - the skins are acting as if they dont have much room to play with. If they did have 12-13M in cap space, one would think the skins would be doing a little more to address RT, G, DE, and LB.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;534316]Same here. i think it was a times article as well.[/quote]

Which would all be coming from the same (wrong) source.

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[quote=Schneed10;534322]Which would all be coming from the same (wrong) source.[/quote]

I updated my last post to reply to another comment. The skins just dont seem to be acting like a typical redskins team that has 12-13M in cap space right now. It makes me wonder whats going on.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;534334]I updated my last post to reply to another comment. The skins just dont seem to be acting like a typical redskins team that has 12-13M in cap space right now. It makes me wonder whats going on.[/quote]

Well they brought in Ray Willis yesterday, who really is the only tackle remaining on the market worth any serious coin. You just didn't hear about the visit until today.

They just signed a punter which we just heard about, and they are bringing in that Brown guy from Arizona.

It sounds like they've been active, we just haven't heard about it because JLC doesn't have the best inside sources anymore, and the national media outlets like SI, ESPN, and CBS don't care to follow our pursuit of teir 2 free agent linemen.

Also, if they've seemed inactive, it's also because the talent available out there now is depleted. I see several decent LBs, but they're old and don't really fit what we're looking for (SLB).

I know it isn't the cap that's holding them back. They're just wondering who's really worth paying for. And on the ones they do think it's worthwhile (Willis) they've just been flying under the radar till today.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;534334]I updated my last post to reply to another comment. The skins just dont seem to be acting like a typical redskins team that has 12-13M in cap space right now. It makes me wonder whats going on.[/quote]All of the free agents worth their salt and under the age of 28 have all been signed.

What you are seeing the rest of the month is going to be a VERY slow market where the economy drives the price of the unsigned players to bargain basement players. There's absolutely no reason for the Redskins or any other team to rush to sign players.

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They also were going back and forth with Demetric Evans, which obviously didn't work out.

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[quote=Schneed10;534341]They also were going back and forth with Demetric Evans, which obviously didn't work out.[/quote]

I havent read anything that indicated the Redskins ever really gave serious consideration to re-signing Evans.

There are plenty of players on the market right now worth looking at, especially at LB... just not guys worth spending serious money on. Like GT said, its possible we just are being sneaky about it.

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Best Available FAs, 27 years old or younger

FB Leonard Weaver 26
DT Tank Johnson 27
CB Bryant McFadden 27
LB Marques Harris 27
RB Jason Wright 26
S James Butler 26
CB Daven Holly 27
CB Leigh Bodden 27
DT Mike Wright 27
OT Khalif Barnes 27
LB Tyjyan Hagler 27
S Gerald Sensabaugh 26
S Sean Jones 27
DE Igor Olshansky 27
CB Reynaldo Hill 27
DT Shaun Cody 26
OT Ray Willis 27
CB Justin Miller 25
WR Reggie Williams 26
DE C.J. Mosely 26
DE Michael Montgomery 26
CB Chris Carr 26
WR Drew Carter 27
G Elton Brown 27
LB Heath Farwell 27
LB Kevin Burnett 26
WR Tab Perry 27
LB Pat Thomas 26
DT Dewayne Robinson 27
C Duke Preston 27
LB Andre Frazier 27
S Matt Giordano 26
S Brandon McGowan 25
CB Pac Man Jones 25
CB Eric Green 27

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[quote=GTripp0012;534355]Best Available FAs, 27 years old or younger

FB Leonard Weaver 26
DT Tank Johnson 27
CB Bryant McFadden 27
LB Marques Harris 27
RB Jason Wright 26
S James Butler 26
CB Daven Holly 27
CB Leigh Bodden 27
DT Mike Wright 27
OT Khalif Barnes 27
LB Tyjyan Hagler 27
S Gerald Sensabaugh 26
S Sean Jones 27
[B]DE Igor Olshansky 27[/B]
CB Reynaldo Hill 27
DT Shaun Cody 26
[B]OT Ray Willis 27[/B]
CB Justin Miller 25
[B]WR Reggie Williams 26[/B]
DE C.J. Mosely 26
[B]DE Michael Montgomery 26[/B]
CB Chris Carr 26
WR Drew Carter 27
[B]G Elton Brown 27[/B]
LB Heath Farwell 27
[B]LB Kevin Burnett 26[/B]
WR Tab Perry 27
[B]LB Pat Thomas 26[/B]
DT Dewayne Robinson 27
C Duke Preston 27
LB Andre Frazier 27
S Matt Giordano 26
S Brandon McGowan 25
CB Pac Man Jones 25
CB Eric Green 27[/quote]

The guys i highlighted are worth looking at. Also, there are plenty of guys between 27 and 30 who are worth signing on the cheap.

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[quote=Schneed10;534339]Well they brought in Ray Willis yesterday, who really is the only tackle remaining on the market worth any serious coin. You just didn't hear about the visit until today.

[B]They just signed a punter which we just heard about, and they are bringing in that Brown guy from Arizona.[/B]

It sounds like they've been active, we just haven't heard about it because JLC doesn't have the best inside sources anymore, and the national media outlets like SI, ESPN, and CBS don't care to follow our pursuit of teir 2 free agent linemen.

Also, if they've seemed inactive, it's also because the talent available out there now is depleted. I see several decent LBs, but they're old and don't really fit what we're looking for (SLB).

I know it isn't the cap that's holding them back. They're just wondering who's really worth paying for. And on the ones they do think it's worthwhile (Willis) they've just been flying under the radar till today.[/quote]

Easy, easy you don't have to go racial now.

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If you can stay with this (it gets long and your eyes may go crossed as there are a lot of figures thrown at you), it is an absolutely excellent recap of the methods used by the Redskins to massage the cap.

[url=http://www.thehogs.net/content/index.php?id=1178]Washington Redskins News - How To Circumvent Cap Hell - 2009-03-05[/url]

[QUOTE]With the free agency talent drying up as the days go by, the Washington Redskins need to address holes not yet filled. The Washington Times is reporting that the Washington Redskins have “limited flexibility” to address these needs. This is another head scratcher because almost a week after the Post said they wouldn’t be players in the 2009 free agency market, they signed a Pro Bowl defensive tackle in Albert Haynesworth, re-signed cornerback DeAngelo Hall, brought back former starting guard Derrick Dockery and signed punter Dirk Johnson.

They are currently courting free agent offensive tackles Ray Willis and Elton Brown, still talking to guard Pete Kendall about resigning, and expected to resign defensive end Phillip Daniels and maybe linebacker/special teams ace Khary Campbell. They may not get Ray Willis and Elton Brown, but not counting Dirk Johnson, the Washington Redskins are more than $11 million under the 2009 salary cap on March 5th and are anything but limited in what the can do between now and the 2009 NFL Draft.[/QUOTE]

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In addition, I'd like to remind the community that while Jason La Canfora, David Elfin, Peter King, et al are all strong writers who can share varying degrees of inside info...

They are not accountants, and they do not have a finance background.

Consider the source when you read their cap info. Then come here to CC's numbers when you want accuracy.

[IMG]http://www.mediabistro.com/agencyspy/original/nbc_the_more_you_know.jpg[/IMG]

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well, according to your link, which draws numbers directly from NFLPA, AH counts 10.4mill in 2009 (6mill base + 22/5 = 10.4mill), not 7.9, and dockery counts 4mill (3.2base +4/5 = 4.0mill) not 4.1.

yay math/better info:

all signing bonuses are prorated over 5 years, option bonuses are listed as other bonuses, and [B]incentives aren't included[/B] since I don't have specifics on them or how they're accounted for.

the option bonuses listed in the article are for 2013-2016, which is either a mistake or incentive to work a new deal (at 35?) - i believe it should be 2012-2015, but that's not super important to know in 2009.

[B]Haynesworth contract details:[/B]
Signing bonus - $22mill in 2009, $9mill in 2010, $10mill in 2011
Incentives - up to $15mill over the first four years
Option bonuses - $12mill ($3mill in 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016)
Base salary - $6mill in 2009, $3.6 in 2010, $5.4mill in 2011, $6.7mill in 2012, $8.5mill in 2013, $10.3mill in 2014, $11.5mill in 2015


[B]yearly cap hits:[/B]
2009 $10.4mill ($6base + 22/5)
2010 $9.8mill ($3.6base + 22/5 + 9/5)
2011 $13.6mill ($5.4base + 22/5 + 9/5 + 10/5)
2012 $15.1mill ($6.7base + 22/5 + 9/5 + 10/5)
2013 $19.9mill ($8.5base + 22/5 + 9/5 + 10/5 + $3 OB)
2014 $17.1mill ($10.3base + 9/5 + 10/5 + $3 OB)
2015 $16.5mill ($11.5base + 10/5 + $3 OB)

[B]release fees:[/B]
2009 $41mill (22 + 9 + 10)
2010 $36.6mill (22*4/5 + 9 + 10)
2011 $30.4mill (22*3/5 + 9*4/5 + 10)
2012 $22.2mill (22*2/5 + 9*3/5 + 10*4/5)
2013 $14.0mill (22*1/5 + 9*2/5 + 10*3/5)
2014 $5.8mill (9*1/5 + 10*2/5)
2015 $2.0mill (10*1/5)

the other information i'm not sure on is this contract is sited as having a 26.9mill hit in 2013 (outside the $3 option bonus), but the only way that meshes with the other numbers is if that 10$mill bonus that counts fully against 2013 (but there's no mention of it, and it results in a 110$mill deal vs $100mill).

further info/insight welcome, but this would mean we have 2.4mill less space than projected (2.5more on haynesworth, .1less on dock).. details aren't out on hall...

then the article says we have 11mill of free space, which wouldn't be true with the AH numbers as stated from the NFLPA site, unless he just grabbed it from this thread.

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also, golston had a 2nd round tender - that's 1.5$mill, not $1mill.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;534372]The guys i highlighted are worth looking at. Also, there are plenty of guys between 27 and 30 who are worth signing on the cheap.[/quote]

Pass on Reggie Williams. I mean if you (the general you) think Smith is a moron for not showing up in shape for the combine...

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So when is all of the Boy King's heavy-handed spending going to bite us in the ass? It happened to the 49er's when they were competing with the Cowboys in the late 90's.

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[quote=John Denny;534650]So when is all of the Boy King's heavy-handed spending going to bite us in the ***? It happened to the 49er's when they were competing with the Cowboys in the late 90's.[/quote]

um probably never, cuz he learned their lesson and manages the cap very effectively. The cap does not mean don't spend, like Philly or TB would have you believe, it just means structure the deals so that in any one given year you are not paying everyone big deals. imho

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[quote=That Guy;534639]well, according to your link, which draws numbers directly from NFLPA, AH counts 10.4mill in 2009 (6mill base + 22/5 = 10.4mill), not 7.9, and dockery counts 4mill (3.2base +4/5 = 4.0mill) not 4.1.

yay math/better info:

all signing bonuses are prorated over 5 years, option bonuses are listed as other bonuses, and [B]incentives aren't included[/B] since I don't have specifics on them or how they're accounted for.

the option bonuses listed in the article are for 2013-2016, which is either a mistake or incentive to work a new deal (at 35?) - i believe it should be 2012-2015, but that's not super important to know in 2009.

[B]Haynesworth contract details:[/B]
Signing bonus - $22mill in 2009, $9mill in 2010, $10mill in 2011
Incentives - up to $15mill over the first four years
Option bonuses - $12mill ($3mill in 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016)
Base salary - $6mill in 2009, $3.6 in 2010, $5.4mill in 2011, $6.7mill in 2012, $8.5mill in 2013, $10.3mill in 2014, $11.5mill in 2015


[B]yearly cap hits:[/B]
2009 $10.4mill ($6base + 22/5)
2010 $9.8mill ($3.6base + 22/5 + 9/5)
2011 $13.6mill ($5.4base + 22/5 + 9/5 + 10/5)
2012 $15.1mill ($6.7base + 22/5 + 9/5 + 10/5)
2013 $19.9mill ($8.5base + 22/5 + 9/5 + 10/5 + $3 OB)
2014 $17.1mill ($10.3base + 9/5 + 10/5 + $3 OB)
2015 $16.5mill ($11.5base + 10/5 + $3 OB)

[B]release fees:[/B]
2009 $41mill (22 + 9 + 10)
2010 $36.6mill (22*4/5 + 9 + 10)
2011 $30.4mill (22*3/5 + 9*4/5 + 10)
2012 $22.2mill (22*2/5 + 9*3/5 + 10*4/5)
2013 $14.0mill (22*1/5 + 9*2/5 + 10*3/5)
2014 $5.8mill (9*1/5 + 10*2/5)
2015 $2.0mill (10*1/5)

the other information i'm not sure on is this contract is sited as having a 26.9mill hit in 2013 (outside the $3 option bonus), but the only way that meshes with the other numbers is if that 10$mill bonus that counts fully against 2013 (but there's no mention of it, and it results in a 110$mill deal vs $100mill).

further info/insight welcome, but this would mean we have 2.4mill less space than projected (2.5more on haynesworth, .1less on dock).. details aren't out on hall...

then the article says we have 11mill of free space, which wouldn't be true with the AH numbers as stated from the NFLPA site, unless he just grabbed it from this thread.[/quote]


To clarify on Haynesworth:

My current cap sheets (not yet on the site) have all the correct salaries as per the article and NFLPA (ie $6M). The bonus info is trickier. I have used similar info to the above except I reversed the SB in 2009 and 2010. So I have Haynes getting a $9.5M SB in 2009 and a $22M SB in 2010.

This means he gets $32M in the first 13 months as reported somewhere, and his 2009 cap hit would only be $7.9M as was reported somewhere else. I used the same logic to get to a $5.2M cap hit for Hall ($5M salary plus $1M SB in 2009).

I will go thru the Hogs article more carefully later today but wanted to clarify how I am getting the cap hits for Haynes and Hall.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;534651]um probably never, cuz he learned their lesson and manages the cap very effectively. The cap does not mean don't spend, like Philly or TB would have you believe, it just means structure the deals so that in any one given year you are not paying everyone big deals. imho[/quote]

we also seem to keep even mid grade guys from hitting the FA market... we've never had an "oh sh*t" offseason like baltimore where they had suggs (franchised), scott, lewis, and a starting safety all out on the market.

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Looks like our salary cap room is $7Million under.

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;534759]Looks like our salary cap room is $7Million under.

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url][/quote]

This helps explain why we have not seen another round of signings IMO... we probably only have enough to sign one more quality FA so the FO is weighing thru things carefully. Maybe we don't even see anything more till after the draft...

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;534759]Looks like our salary cap room is $7Million under.

[URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/"]Redskins Insider[/URL][/quote]

According to [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/salary-cap-central/27715-current-redskins-salary-cap-status-2009-a-26.html#post518414"]Schneed10 and CrazyCanuk[/URL] we're $11.1M under. I'll take their word over JLC 8 days a week.

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[quote=GMScud;534794]According to [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/salary-cap-central/27715-current-redskins-salary-cap-status-2009-a-26.html#post518414"]Schneed10 and CrazyCanuk[/URL] we're $11.1M under. I'll take their word over JLC 8 days a week.[/quote]

I agree. JLC has definitely been off plenty of times (especially during this offseason) so there is no reason for me to believe he is right here. So far the Cap info on this site has been pretty close to dead on so I think until something concrete comes out showing we are indeed less under than we thought, we should assume we have around 11Million of space.

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I wish we had access to the nflpa database... cause all of these articles have vague interpretations or leave info out. that hogs piece gives the yearly salary and bonus prorations, but doesn't show where the monster 2013 cap hit is coming from (the base salary and bonus money WITH the option bonus still leave it 7mill short).

but between that and the extra 500k for golston, there's a possibility of ~3mill margin of error on the 2009 cap. but again, without a direct source of contract info, who knows...

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more info on dockery... which seems really weird:
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/03/the_dockery_contract.html]The Dockery Contract - Redskins Insider[/url]

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[quote=That Guy;534811]more info on dockery... which seems really weird:
[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/03/the_dockery_contract.html"]The Dockery Contract - Redskins Insider[/URL][/quote]


I was surprised by that as well. If he turns out to be an upgrade from Kendall, he is a steal...

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more on the haynesworth deal from a former skins cap guy:
[url=http://insidethecap.blogspot.com/]INSIDE THE CAP with J.I. Halsell[/url]

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[quote=That Guy;534814]more on the haynesworth deal from a former skins cap guy:
[url=http://insidethecap.blogspot.com/]INSIDE THE CAP with J.I. Halsell[/url][/quote]

Man, this is a cool picture.

[IMG]http://beat.bodoglife.com/wp-content/uploads/albert_haynesworth_200311_ap.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Ruhskins;534818]Man, this is a cool picture.

[IMG]http://beat.bodoglife.com/wp-content/uploads/albert_haynesworth_200311_ap.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

It could use two improvements:

1) Burgandy and Gold jersey
2) #9 on the ground

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that makes it look like 7mill in 2009, then 8.8mill in 2010 (6base + 5/5 2009, 3.6base + 5/5 + 21/5 2010)

i guess that meshes the best and all the money seems to be accounted for there. which means (after the golston correction) we might have 11.5-12mill free?

after reading the dockery deal and the better haynesworth info i don't know how JLC came up with 7mill...

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;534819]It could use two improvements:

[B]1) Burgandy and Gold jersey
2) #9 on the ground[/B][/quote]

Hell Yeah!