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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;574001]Betts is a # 3 at best on a stacked team? Was the '06 team stacked?

I am going to bow out of this conversation. [B]I deal in reality[/B].[/quote]

Good stuff man...good stuff. And I'm right there w/ you on Betts...a number of teams would luv to have him and probably ran him like crazy over the last few years...our downfall for not using him.

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[quote=Lotus;573918]When Collins ran his 40 yard dash at the start of camp, they timed him with an hourglass. :)[/quote]

And they had to flip it twice.

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The defense has been awesome. But the offense is still broke.

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What about Tryon? I keep thinking we could've drafted an offensive lineman instead of him. I hope he is able to show us something this year. Anyway, we should've gone for a center or guard, but it's too late to second guess Cerrato's picks for 2008.

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Not good for Tampa and Carolina:

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/news/story?id=4390220]Carolina Panthers wide receiver Steve Smith injures right shoulder after collision in practice - ESPN[/url]

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/news/story?id=4390140]Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Antonio Bryant out for preseason with knee injury - ESPN[/url]

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Pretty cool photo gallery here on SI.com:

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0908/nfl.redskins.training.camp/content.1.html]Jason Campbell - SI's Best Shots From Redskins Camp - Photos - SI.com[/url]

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[quote=wilsowilso;573816]What does Ladell Betts do really well?

Nothing. He is good at most things. I am tired of a good #2 RB.[/quote]

He fumbles really well.

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[quote=GMScud;574254]Pretty cool photo gallery here on SI.com:

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0908/nfl.redskins.training.camp/content.1.html]Jason Campbell - SI's Best Shots From Redskins Camp - Photos - SI.com[/url][/quote]

Best Pics are the 1st one, more for how intensely Zorn is looking at the throw, then for JC

And the one of Buges and the Oline. I only wish that the Oline had the same look of fire that Buges is showing.

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[quote=wilsowilso;573816]What does Ladell Betts do really well?

Nothing. He is good at most things. [B]I am tired of a good #2 RB[/B].[/quote]

Would you prefer to have a crappy one?

That could be arranged easy enough.

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[quote=The Goat;574107]Good stuff man...good stuff. And I'm right there w/ you on Betts...a number of teams would luv to have him and probably ran him like crazy over the last few years...our downfall for not using him.[/quote]
I said a stacked team; but since you guys deal in reality, from 3 years ago, I'll let it slide, that's reality enough for me.

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I just read about how Colt has gone all of training camp without throwing a pick, until today. That's very impressive, considering campbell the day I saw him, was picked twice and so was Collins. Very impressive.

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Anyone else notice that Zorn never really praises Colt?

I could understand it last year because even though Brennan was on fire in the preseason he was just winging it half the time and the coaches can't let a rookie play outside the system and freelance, but this year Zorn still only says the same "he's got a lot to work on" kind of stuff.

I wonder what Zorn will say if Colt goes crazy in the preseason again?

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[quote=wilsowilso;574558]Anyone else notice that Zorn never really praises Colt?

I could understand it last year because even though Brennan was on fire in the preseason he was just winging it half the time and the coaches can't let a rookie play outside the system and freelance, but this year Zorn still only says the same "he's got a lot to work on" kind of stuff.

I wonder what Zorn will say if Colt goes crazy in the preseason again?[/quote]

He seems to like him here

[URL="http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/08/07/brennan-catches-zorns-eye-at-redskins-camp"]ProFootballWeekly.com - Brennan catches Zorn's eye at Redskins camp[/URL]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;574555]I just read about how Colt has gone all of training camp without throwing a pick, until today. That's very impressive, considering campbell the day I saw him, was picked twice and so was Collins. Very impressive.[/quote]

Even with the one pick, that is a fine record. Let's hope Colt keeps it up.

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[quote=wilsowilso;574558]Anyone else notice that Zorn never really praises Colt?

I could understand it last year because even though Brennan was on fire in the preseason he was just winging it half the time and the coaches can't let a rookie play outside the system and freelance, but this year Zorn still only says the same "he's got a lot to work on" kind of stuff.

I wonder what Zorn will say if Colt goes crazy in the preseason again?[/quote]

We'll think about it, last year Colt was a rookie who showed lots of great flashes when he was given the opportunity to play, the thing is if you praise him, he'll get cocky. And there's nothing good about a cocky rookie, this year he can't praise him as much, because he's already named Jason the starter for this year, and has already tried to replace Jason 2 times now, I don't think Zorn wants to say anything, like "Man Colt is playing so tremendously now, maybe I should play him next preseason game with the first-teamers" or "He's really pushing Jason for his starting spot". But what is more likely is that he says "Colt is now our 2nd string QB"

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Wow you guys really need to go back and listen to what Zorn said about Colt. He praised Colt but he didn't hand him the keys and i didn't detected that in his voice either.

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I think Zorn is impressed with Colt. He just tries to keep him grounded and not let it all go to his head. IMO thats why evertime Colt makes a good play Zorn is right there with a list of what he did wrong.

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Plus he doesnt want a QB debate in D.C. -especially in his rook yr as HC
Imagine last yr if Zorn would have come out and said that Colt was the best thing since sliced bread. You think the Cult is bad now?

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[quote=JLee9718;574225]The defense has been awesome. But the offense is still broke.[/quote]

Is the defense that good or is our offense that bad?

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[quote=WaldSkins;574583]Is the defense that good or is our offense that bad?[/quote]

Good question, i guess time will tell

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[quote=WaldSkins;574583]Is the defense that good or is our offense that bad?[/quote]

I wonder how things look in places with great defenses and so-so offenses (i.e. Chicago or Baltimore).

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[quote=WaldSkins;574583]Is the defense that good or is our offense that bad?[/quote]

Offense was that bad last year and you can't make much of an argument yet that it's improved.

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If the OL stays healthy we will be OK i know that's a BIG IF. The OL is going to get better practicing against our new DL. If it dosen't break you it will make you.