re: Peppers signs with the Bears (updated - again)
 

[quote=Mattyk;669985]The Eagles have an offer on the table for Peppers... I'd rather see him go to Chicago[/quote]

Me too. I don't really want him but I don't want anyone else in the NFC East getting him either.

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Which side of the line did Pashos play on in SF? I wouldnt mind starting the season with Clifton at LT and Pashos at RT. We'd definitely need to draft a tackle by round two, though.

It was interesting to read that Shanahan is very high on Rinehart. so, concievably, we're looking at a starting line of:

LT - Clifton
LG - Dockery
C - Rabach
RG - Rinehart
RT - Pashos

Not the best OL in the world, but certainly better than any line involving Mike Williams, Levi Jones, and Stephon Heyer.

re: Peppers signs with the Bears (updated - again)
 

Peppers looks to be headed to Chicago.

Im almost kinda glad its looking like we wont take him.
Something just seemed risky and Jason Taylorish.

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[quote=53Fan;669990]Me too. I don't really want him but I don't want anyone else in the NFC East getting him either.[/quote]

honestly, i dont think Peppers will be a major factor wherever he goes. Perhaps playing for a real contender would motivate Peppers, but from all reports, the guys just never had a passion for the game. If Peppers went to Philly and became a bum, that would only help us - especially if the cap comes back next year and the eagles couldnt cut him.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;669996]honestly, i don't think Peppers will be a major factor wherever he goes. Perhaps playing for a real contender would motivate Peppers, but from all reports, the guys just never had a passion for the game. If Peppers went to Philly and became a bum, that would only help us - especially if the cap comes back next year and the eagles couldn't cut him.[/quote]

I agree, not sure he would be a bum but I am so glad we aren't paying him Oprah money to bring it occasionally.

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[quote=Skins4L;669995]Peppers looks to be headed to Chicago.

Im almost kinda glad its looking like we wont take him.
Something just seemed risky and Jason Taylorish.[/quote]

Philly and NE have made him an offer also.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;669996][B]honestly, i dont think Peppers will be a major factor wherever he goes.[/B] Perhaps playing for a real contender would motivate Peppers, but from all reports, the guys just never had a passion for the game. If Peppers went to Philly and became a bum, that would only help us - especially if the cap comes back next year and the eagles couldnt cut him.[/quote]

I don't either, but I don't want him having his best games of the year against us.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;669994][B]Which side of the line did Pashos play on in SF?[/B] I wouldnt mind starting the season with Clifton at LT and Pashos at RT. We'd definitely need to draft a tackle by round two, though.

It was interesting to read that Shanahan is very high on Rinehart. so, concievably, we're looking at a starting line of:

LT - Clifton
LG - Dockery
C - Rabach
RG - Rinehart
RT - Pashos

Not the best OL in the world, but certainly better than any line involving Mike Williams, Levi Jones, and Stephon Heyer.[/quote]

Clifton played LT, Pashos played RT.

I'm pretty sure that Shanahallen won't stop with just those two tackles. We'll add more.

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Despite his perceived lack of passion for the game, we're still talking about a guy that's almost a lock for 10+ sacks per year and has been one of the most productive players at his position since he came in to the league.

I'm not crying that we're not getting him, I think we've got a lot of needs where we need to spend money on... but I think a lot of people are underestimating the kind of player he is.

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[quote=Player_HTTR;670000]I agree, not sure he would be a bum but I am so glad we aren't paying him Oprah money to bring it occasionally.[/quote]

Nor do we want anyone with an Oprah commitment to fitness...sign him at 285, shows up next month at 342.

re: Peppers signs with the Bears (updated - again)
 

[quote=Mattyk;670009]Despite his perceived lack of passion for the game, we're still talking about a guy that's almost a lock for 10+ sacks per year and has been one of the most productive players at his position since he came in to the league.

I'm not crying that we're not getting him, I think we've got a lot of needs where we need to spend money on... but I think a lot of people are underestimating the kind of player he is.[/quote]

I think i have.

The new staff could definetly have him playing good ball too.

re: Peppers signs with the Bears (updated - again)
 

[quote=Mattyk;670009]Despite his perceived lack of passion for the game, we're still talking about a guy that's almost a lock for 10+ sacks per year and has been one of the most productive players at his position since he came in to the league.

I'm not crying that we're not getting him, I think we've got a lot of needs where we need to spend money on... [B]but I think a lot of people are underestimating the kind of player he is.[/B][/quote]

I was guilty of that. But I still would be happy not to sign him because of value-for-the-money concerns.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;669994]Which side of the line did Pashos play on in SF? I wouldnt mind starting the season with Clifton at LT and Pashos at RT. We'd definitely need to draft a tackle by round two, though.

It was interesting to read that Shanahan is very high on Rinehart. so, concievably, we're looking at a starting line of:

LT - Clifton
LG - Dockery
C - Rabach
RG - Rinehart
RT - Pashos

Not the best OL in the world, but certainly better than any line involving Mike Williams, Levi Jones, and Stephon Heyer.[/quote]

Keep in mind that last years experience clearly teaches us that we need 6 or 7 O-lineman to be competitive. Count on Kory L to possibly be a starter by the end of the year as well as a rookie or two to be a factor. Someone like Pouncey would set us up at Guard for a while.

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[quote=Lotus;670023]I was guilty of that. But I still would be happy not to sign him because of value-for-the-money concerns.[/quote]

yea good call

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[quote=Lotus;670023]I was guilty of that. But I still would be happy not to sign him because of value-for-the-money concerns.[/quote]

I'm guilty of it as well, i just think he constitutes too high of a risk, not only of not performing himself, but the demoralizing effect it would have on the team - to bring in a free agent, pay him haynesworth money, and then watch him act like he doesn't care about football. he could get away with that to a certain degree in carolina because he was a home-grown draft pick, a "true" panther - but i think the team moral problems would be amplified significantly if peppers comes in as a free agent, makes a ton of money, and then doesnt put forth the effort to show he's worth it.

re: Peppers signs with the Bears (updated - again)
 

[quote=Dirtbag359;670024][B]Keep in mind that last years experience clearly teaches us that we need 6 or 7 O-lineman to be competitive.[/B] Count on Kory L to possibly be a starter by the end of the year as well as a rookie or two to be a factor. Someone like Pouncey would set us up at Guard for a while.[/quote]

True. That means we need several more than just 6 or 7 in camp to create serious competition for spots.

re: Peppers signs with the Bears (updated - again)
 

[quote=Dirtbag359;670024]Keep in mind that last years experience clearly teaches us that we need 6 or 7 O-lineman to be competitive. Count on Kory L to possibly be a starter by the end of the year as well as a rookie or two to be a factor. Someone like Pouncey would set us up at Guard for a while.[/quote]

absolutely. i was just naming potential starters. word has it that weigman has already signed his contract with us. wonder what spot we'd put him at. no matter how many free agent OL we bring in, we still need to devote atleast one round 1-3 draft pick to the OL in each of the next few years.

I honestly dont undertand giving Rabach 12.3MM though. i don't think anyone else would have tried to pay him that kind of money and i dont see him as being our starter for the next 3 years.

re: Peppers signs with the Bears (updated - again)
 

Schefter expects Peppers to Bears deal to be wrapped up this afternoon

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;670037]absolutely. i was just naming potential starters. word has it that weigman has already signed his contract with us. wonder what spot we'd put him at. no matter how many free agent OL we bring in, we still need to devote atleast one round 1-3 draft pick to the OL in each of the next few years.

I honestly dont undertand giving Rabach 12.3MM though. i don't think anyone else would have tried to pay him that kind of money and [B]i dont see him as being our starter for the next 3 years.[/B][/quote]

He doesn't have to be. Cut him in camp this year or next and it is no-harm, no-foul.

re: Peppers signs with the Bears (updated - again)
 

[quote=Mattyk;670040]Schefter expects Peppers to Bears deal to be wrapped up this afternoon[/quote]

I hope so. :)

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[quote=Lotus;670043]He doesn't have to be. Cut him in camp this year or next and it is no-harm, no-foul.[/quote]

i guess itll depend on how much of that contract is garaunteed and what rules are in place with the new CBA.

re: Peppers signs with the Bears (updated - again)
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;670051]i guess itll depend on how much of that contract is garaunteed and what rules are in place with the new CBA.[/quote]

Yup.

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This is funny!

@FakeBruceAllen: Come on, somebody sign Peppers already. Mr. Synder is starting to chew through the duct tape!! #Redskins #NFL

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hahaha that is funny.

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and on the real Bruce Allen:

LarryWeisman twitter:

Redskins not chasing Julius Peppers. Asked Bruce Allen if the club called the free agent DE: "No, we didn't." Story soon on redskins.com

re: Peppers signs with the Bears (updated - again)
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;670037]absolutely. [B]i was just naming potential starters. word has it that weigman has already signed his contract with us.[/B] wonder what spot we'd put him at. no matter how many free agent OL we bring in, we still need to devote atleast one round 1-3 draft pick to the OL in each of the next few years.

I honestly dont undertand giving Rabach 12.3MM though. i don't think anyone else would have tried to pay him that kind of money and i dont see him as being our starter for the next 3 years.[/quote]

I thought wiegman was in Denver. Where did you hear this?

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[quote=Longtimefan;669965]I'm not really that high on the pursuit of Clifton for various reasons, health as well as age being atop my concerns. Replacing a 33 yr. old tackle with another 33 yr. old is suspect IMO. I'm having a difficult time trying to understand what it is we have against drafting offensive linemen.[/quote]

Mind you I'm just guessing, but during JG1 I thought I remember his saying he preferred the older OL cause they usually don't make the same mental mistakes. JG2 pretty much confirms that with him picking up aged OL vs. drafting OL high in the draft. So I'd guess it has something to do with the fact that young drafted OL will make mental mistakes and pick up false starts or penalties vs. older OL.

I'm in the camp of getting younger across the board. I'll take the mental mistake and the 5yrd penalty once and a while so long as we are moving the ball and scoring points.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;670080]I thought wiegman was in Denver. Where did you hear this?[/quote]

this is from lavarleap56 at extremeskins.com. it hasnt been confirmed so perhaps things fell through.

re: Peppers signs with the Bears (updated - again)
 

ES is a cluster F of "sources", I would take things from there with a serious grain of salt

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;670111]this is from lavarleap56 at extremeskins.com. it hasnt been confirmed so perhaps things fell through.[/quote]

No!!! Don't use ES as a source. They vill hunt u down and terminate chu.
[IMG]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:vPTR8pVhQ5e68M:http://nerdvana.freedomblogging.com/files/2009/04/terminator.jpg[/IMG]
Besides didn't you see their warning?

Re: Redskins expected to pursue Peppers
 

LL56 is the only source who i "respect" over there. he's legit and doesnt make stuff up. that said, he appears to have been wrong in this case.

re: Peppers signs with the Bears (updated - again)
 

Chester Taylor signed with the Bears, 4 yrs $12.5M

Peppers deal is done too with the Bears, details coming

re: Peppers signs with the Bears (updated - again)
 

This is weird. Are we sure he isnt actually at Redskins Park as we speak....

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Bruce Allen says they didn't even contact him

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[quote=Mattyk;670124]Chester Taylor signed with the Bears, 4 yrs $12.5M

Peppers deal is done too with the Bears, details coming[/quote]

Wow, Bears doing well...too bad Cutler screwed them out of so many draft picks...they have a lot of ground to make up.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;670111]this is from lavarleap56 at extremeskins.com. it hasnt been confirmed so perhaps things fell through.[/quote]

he most likely got it from one of PFT's reporters twitter pages, caplan or something like that. i think this was reported a few days ago . .

honestly dont use ES.

TK makes vague educated guesses then, if it comes true, he chirps like he predicted it. im going to say sage is a possibility the skins will look at. if it comes true, i will act like an inside source instead of an outside speculator.

lavarleap made the right call on a jersey change 2 years ago. that was it, since then he has played the same game as TK.

jsteelz seems to atleast have some credibility as he doesnt speculate on everything then claim insider knowledge when he ends up being correct on 1 out of 10 guesstamations.

the funniest thing is TK trying to act like he is responsible for misleading the media into thinking the skins were going to be big players come midnight. of course anything he says is vague to allow wiggle room either way.

why do i care . . .

re: Peppers signs with the Bears (updated - again)
 

[quote=Mattyk;670124]Chester Taylor signed with the Bears, 4 yrs $12.5M

Peppers deal is done too with the Bears, details coming[/quote]

dang chester was gotten for a good price. no worries . .

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Does anyone remember a couple years back before we played the Bears (TC came in relief & won game, began 4 game win streak to playoffs), JLC did a comparison of the two teams over the previous years. He said the bears had a plan to build through the draft & re-sign their own.

Wow, look at them now, traded big for their qb of the future, and now signing an old rb & big name DE in free agency.

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[quote=Buster;670128]Wow, Bears doing well...too bad Cutler screwed them out of so many draft picks...they have a lot of ground to make up.[/quote]

They have OL issues like us, not sure what good Taylor is going to do for them until they address that

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you dont need a good offensive line if you have great skill position players.