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[quote=ChickenMonkey;682381]If you guys dont think this trade is freakin exactly what we needed.....The numbers say it all
2009 Philadelphia Eagles Mc Nabb stats 22 td's- 10 Ints-3,553 yards- 92.3% completions %......Havent seen those numbers in Washington since Doug Williams!![/quote]I don't think any franchise has seen a QB complete 92.3% of his passes like McNabb did last year.

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[quote=Big C;682378]comcast is doing a special broadcast on this now btw with brian mitchell[/quote]


Thanks for the heads up!!!

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[quote=NM Redskin;682374]I would hope the staff thinks we can trade down, still bet a quality LT and pick up a second. Maybe then maybe draft a Tebow/McCoy. The idea of Tebow learning under McNabb is intriguing.[/quote]

Well Shanny just made a big acquisition at QB, I think he'd would want the best LT in the draft to watch McNabb's blind side.

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[quote=12thMan;682380]Damn, still can't believe it. Talk about earthquake on the west coast, we just had our own fellas!!![/quote]

What are you talking about? I am in North Carolina.

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[B][FONT=Garamond][SIZE=3][B]While there may be dissension in the ranks about the value of this move, there are a few accomplishments that McNabb has made that do appear to make him the most viable NFL QB Washington has had in a while. [/B][/SIZE][/FONT]
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From Wikipedia.com:[B]NFL records[/B]

[LIST][*]Most consecutive pass completions, 24; vs [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Giants"]New York Giants[/URL], Nov. 28, 2004; vs [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers"]Green Bay Packers[/URL], Dec. 5, 2004[*]Least-intercepted quarterback per pass attempt of all time, (4588 attempts-96 interceptions, 2.09%)[*]Second-best touchdown-to-interception ratio of all time, (209-96, 2.18) behind [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Brady"]Tom Brady[/URL] (217-92, 2.36)[*]First NFL Quarterback ever to throw for more than 30 touchdowns and fewer than 10 interceptions (2004)[*]One of six quarterbacks of all time to have over 25,000 passing yards and 3,000 rushing yards (alongside [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall_Cunningham"]Randall Cunningham[/URL], Steve Young, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran_Tarkenton"]Fran Tarkenton[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_McNair"]Steve McNair[/URL], and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Elway"]John Elway[/URL])[*]Currently the third-highest winning percentage among active quarterbacks (83-45-1, .647) behind [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Manning"]Peyton Manning[/URL] (119-59-0, .669) and Tom Brady (88-25-0, .779)[/LIST]

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[quote=GTripp0012;682386]I don't think any franchise has seen a QB complete 92.3% of his passes like McNabb did last year.[/quote]

That has to be a new NFL record

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[quote=SmootSmack;682385]But the game isn't just about stats in a box score[/quote]01000001110101110

Does not compute.

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I like it. We could still keep JC, have him ride pine this year and get the mentoring from a good Vet. I think the draft threads should calm down now also, but you never know. We might still draft a QB?

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[quote=12thMan;682380]Damn, still can't believe it. Talk about earthquake on the west coast, we just had our own fellas!!![/quote]

yea, i got both lol

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Hey 53. See what happens when I show back up.

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[quote=Ruhskins;682388]Well Shanny just made a big acquisition at QB, I think he'd would want the best LT in the draft to watch McNabb's blind side.[/quote]

I agree, but what is the staffs grade of the lineman? The difference between the best tackle and the 3rd best might not be as great to them as opposed to us and the media.

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[quote=SmootSmack;682361]Think of all the QBs that have been rumored to be coming here via trade the past few years-Favre, Vick, Cutler, Hasselbeck-had to get rid of Vinny to finally make it happen!

sort of off-topic, but huge day in sports tomorrow-McNabb trade talk, MLB opening day, NCAA Championship game, Tiger speaks at Augusta[/quote]

Ya, huge day tommorrow. Augusta national is about 300 yards away from my front door. Traffic sucks on Washington Blvd. I did rent out 3 parking spots in front of my house for 35 dollars a day, each, so, I just have to go the back way to fort gordon this week..........

I really hope we get some draft picks from somewhere, or that the situation presents itself to trade down for add'l picks.

We gotta get soething for Capbell now tho, we have to. I hope JC like cold weather..........(Buffalo BIlls?...........)

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[quote=GTripp0012;682382][B]This makes Shanahan less likely to win a super bowl[/B], but it would make the returns on it more sweet than if he won it with Campbell!

Wait, no, sorry, they are similar players even in the amount a super bowl win would mean to their detractors. Although we could beat Philly in the NFC Championship.[/quote]

I'll want to stick a fork in my eye for asking...but how so?

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[quote=luke4twenty;682360]Rejoice? Nah, but not a terrible move either. [B]We get a QB that has been pretty consistent when healthy (ha),[/B] for a 2nd rounder, who has experience in West Coast offense, who strips a chief rival of their all-time stat leader, and...lets just see if this fires up D-Mac..nothing like feeling WANTED. I mean, Philly has been trying to run him out for years...[/quote]

Don't you mean the Rams after we make the trade?

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Wow... Had hoped to see a question mark rather than an exclamation in the post subject. It was awesome to catch this in time for Fox News' 'fan reaction' interviews. I believe the first comment was 'we have a great line, great receivers, and now a great quarterback.' Apparently they weren't a Washington fan. Clearly they were interviewing philly fans...

At any rate, things looked so promising as though Snyder really was stepping back. Now we get another has-been to come get some of that Snyder funded retirement cheese.

I hope like crazy they intend to build through the draft or surprise us with a high profile trade like this to address the real problem in the O line.

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DM makes all the passes that we saw JC.......AW shit!
A.....shocker, no doubt....but another weak link repaired.
AND DM will be a bitch on Philly twice a year while he plays.......

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A.S. made a good point, Elway was over a year older when shanny started in denver in 95 than Donovan is now, plus in Denver, they didnt have the defense that we do. Address the line in this draft, and we will compete for the NFC East this year.

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[quote=GTripp0012;682373]There's got to be more here, I would think.[/quote]Just got the news, your statement is what I keep thinking about.

There has been no contract discussion, so it's not outside the realm of possibility McNabb is traded on draft day. What do we know:

1) We're not "boxed in" on a starting LT or QB at #4.
2) The FO does not have enough faith in Campbell to go into the season with him as the starting option at QB.
3) We will likely be making more trades either right before or during the draft for picks in the 2-3 round range.

Let's say we stand pat, McNabb is a major upgrade over Campbell (if healthy) for the next two seasons. We will come away with one of the top 2 LTs or more picks in the first round, or both. What did we lose, our second rounder....who many here were saying to use on Colt McCoy. McNabb is light years ahead of what McCoy will ever be.

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McNabb
2009 267 443 3553 60.3 8.02 60 22 10 35 92.9
Campbell
2009 327 507 [B]3618[/B] [B]64.5[/B] 7.14 84 20 15 43 86.4
and McNabb had....

Desean Jackson!

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[QUOTE="Ruhskins"]Not that I'm comparing McNabb with Elway, but maybe Shanny can help McNabb win a SB the way he helped Elway.[/QUOTE]

Adam Schefter just noted that Elway was one year older than McNabb is now when he first got to Denver and went on to win those two Super Bowls

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I cannot believe this has happened. I always thought he was underrated and treated like shit for what he accomplished without any WR. Let's hope he can do it now.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;682383]Think about this we could possibly get a 3rd round pick for JC & trade out of the 4th pick swap 1st pick up a 2nd. If this happens we would have McNabb 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th & 7th draft picks. FO would be genius!!!!! Think about it it's possible.[/quote]

Sure it's possible. Doesn't mean anything close to this will happen.

I gotta say, I do firmly believe we'll either find a trade partner for our 4th pick and acquire multiple lower picks and/or move at least one or two players for picks.

I don't care who our QB is, if the line doesn't drastically improve, nothing else will matter.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;682407]McNabb
2009 267 443 3553 60.3 8.02 60 22 10 35 92.9
Campbell
2009 327 507 [B]3618[/B] [B]64.5[/B] 7.14 84 20 15 43 86.4[/quote]

Mcnabb only played in 13-14 games.

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The Mastermind strikes again!!!

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[quote=GMScud;682410]Sure it's possible. Doesn't mean anything close to this will happen.

I gotta say, I do firmly believe we'll either find a trade partner for our 4th pick and acquire multiple lower picks and/or move at least one or two players for picks.

I don't care who our QB is, if the line doesn't drastically improve, nothing else will matter.[/quote]

McNabb scrabbling ability can make a bad line look decent.

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I heard a rumor that Vinny Cerrato was at Redskins HQ this week.I thought it was a great April Fool's joke, but I guess it was true based on this move.

I absolutely hate this trade. I know McNabb is a pretty good QB, but he's also a 34-year-old choke artist. I would've much rather rode it out with Campbell this year and get a young, franchise QB next year. I think this is going to turn out to be a horrible mistake.

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[quote=SBXVII;682401]Don't you mean the Rams after we make the trade?[/quote]

When in the NFL have you seen a team trade for a guy and then turn around right around and trade him? This isn't Madden.

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[quote=NM Redskin;682396]I agree, but what is the staffs grade of the lineman? The difference between the best tackle and the 3rd best might not be as great to them as opposed to us and the media.[/quote]

Well I'm going off with a bit of common sense here, the higher you pick the better you have at getting that best tackle. Now, we may not necessarily drop down that far, I mean a Buffalo or Cleveland may trade with us and we can still pick up a Trent Williams (who many see just as good if not better than Okung).

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;682383]Think about this we could possibly get a 3rd round pick for JC & trade out of the 4th pick swap 1st pick up a 2nd. If this happens we would have McNabb 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th & 7th draft picks. FO would be genius!!!!! Think about it it's possible.[/quote]

That having 4 in the first 3 rounds plus DOnovan would be so incredibly awesoe, I dunno what to say, other than it IS possible, and with the way this offseason is going, who knows what else will happen. aybe Cooley 'los and a 4th for Brandon Marshall????

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[quote=Dirtbag359;682415]When in the NFL have you seen a team trade for a guy and then turn around right around and trade him? This isn't Madden.[/quote]

Once again, wishful thinking from the Bradford Boners. LOL.

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[quote=44ever;682411]Mcnabb only played in 13-14 games.[/quote]

I'm not picking at health, but he now regularly misses one or two games. So what he gives us isn't that much, and we know he :vomit: in the sb, not that we will get there before he moves on to the Vikings.

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[quote=NM Redskin;682413]McNabb scrabbling ability can make a bad line look decent.[/quote]Are you predicting we'll win the 2004 NFC East, too?

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I'll take await and see approach, i have a friend who is a eagurls fan and he said I'm running with you now Doug Williams Pt. 2.

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Well, look on the bright side. McNabb is not going to have one-dimensional playcaller who abandons the run or never bothers to establish it. He's also going to have plenty of oppurtunities to roll out or pass on a bootleg.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;682423]Well, look on the bright side. McNabb is not going to have one-dimensional playcaller who abandons the run or never bothers to establish it. He's also going to have plenty of oppurtunities to roll out or pass on a bootleg.[/quote]

And with LJ, we actually have a goal line running game, something he never had in Philly.

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Live oOn ESPN news a little while ago Andy Reid said, "if Donovan McNabb were here in philly he would be the starter no question."
That made me realize the high caliber of player we are getting at the most important position on the field.
With our incredibly talented young TE's and WR's...and Portis, Johnson and Parker in the backfield we have instantly upgraded to a legitimate NFL offense overnight.
Shanahan and his staff combined with a McNabb is a major deal.
Now we get the best LT available at #4 which will be an immeadiate starter. .

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Is this a bad time to ask the Eagles to send Reid and DeSean Jackson as well?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;682415]When in the NFL have you seen a team trade for a guy and then turn around right around and trade him? This isn't Madden.[/quote]

Wait, Hold the phone, This isn't Madden WTF???? I was banking on that trade McNabb for the top 3 picks in the draft

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I feel like maybe i am the only one but i don't like the trade. I want shanny to groom a long term qb not a stop gap. Now any QB they get will be a late round project.

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[quote=GMScud;682410]Sure it's possible. Doesn't mean anything close to this will happen.

I gotta say, I do firmly believe we'll either find a trade partner for our 4th pick and acquire multiple lower picks and/or move at least one or two players for picks.

I don't care who our QB is, if the line doesn't drastically improve, nothing else will matter.[/quote]

I agree the line need to be the 1st thing we should be fixed with or without McNabb all I am saying is we very well could be contenders this year. Depending on the moves we make from here on out.