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Pretty sure passing a conditioning test isn't part of his contract, so the Skins don't have much leverage in that regard.

He will pass it eventually, probably with the help from a little creative work on the stopwatch.

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[B]If the team requires him to pass the test in order to play[/B], and he doesnt pass??

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[quote=SolidSnake84;716400]My question is this: If Haynesworth is never able to complete the test, and he isn't able to play, can the redskins void his contract?

I mean they aren't gonna give him that much cash to be a backup, even if he does somehow pass the test and thereby make the squad.[/quote]

He will eventually complete the test, or they will give an alternate test that still is one of the "normal" tests which he will pass.

Voiding the contract doesn't really get them anywhere, except make fans feel good.

They are going to get him playing, and when he does, his talent is what will keep him from being a backup. If he doesn't play hard in practice than Shanny will absolutely keep him on the bench.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;716405][B]If the team requires him to pass the test in order to play[/B], and he doesnt pass??[/quote]

If it came to that he would certainly file a grievance, and probably win, if he gets certification from his trainer that he had worked through the off-season and showed up in reasonable football shape.

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WTF .. this saga needs to end .. i don't want to hear about this anymore

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I don't understand why his knee was swelling up. If he really was training hard to get in football shape during the off season then this wouldn't be an issue. Oh well....seems like he's just going to be standing around while this drags out another two weeks.

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He's had some knee issues in the past, not sure about any surgeries though. Could just be something flaring up from the past. He missed some time in camp last summer with a knee problem.

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[quote=skinsfan69;716414]I don't understand why his knee was swelling up. If he really was training hard to get in football shape during the off season then this wouldn't be an issue. Oh well....seems like he's just going to be standing around while this drags out another two weeks.[/quote]

300+ pounds, that's why.

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If I remember correctly he has to get some sort of fluid injected into his knee every offseason. I haven't heard anything about it this offseason though.

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[quote=Angry;716422]If I remember correctly he has to get some sort of fluid injected into his knee every offseason. I haven't heard anything about it this offseason though.[/quote]

Fluid injected in, or removed?

I've had the latter done about a dozen times...giant needle, hurts like hell.

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[quote=Buster;716424]Fluid injected in, or removed?

I've had the latter done about a dozen times...giant needle, hurts like hell.[/quote]

In his case I believe it was injected. I get fluid removed also.

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[quote=Mattyk;716402]Pretty sure passing a conditioning test isn't part of his contract, so the Skins don't have much leverage in that regard.

He will pass it eventually, probably with the help from a little creative work on the stopwatch.[/quote]

It's funny you mention that because I was thinking that same thing myself. Before this is all said and done, we may have to become an enabler.

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[quote=Angry;716428]In his case I believe it was injected. I get fluid removed also.[/quote]

yep you're right

[url=http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=8242583]Redskins DT Haynesworth's Knee Problem Not Serious - ABC News[/url]

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I found a link to it from last season

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/haynesworth-on-injury-its-not.html]Redskins Insider - Haynesworth on Injury: 'It's Not Serious'[/url]

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I think Fat Al is pushing back now. I do think his knee is a little sore, but I think he's fed up with the Shanahanigans.

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I don't think he minds missing some practice.

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Apparently Darnell Dockett just tweeted making fun of Al and saying he has to take a piss. Funny.

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Dockett has been hammering AH about this all offseason. He even put a note saying next year he was available. Been pretty funny.

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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/07/darnell_dockett_mocks_hayneswo.html]D.C. Sports Bog - Darnell Dockett mocks Haynesworth again[/url]

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Funny but it's bordering on obsessive.

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[quote=Mattyk;716443]Funny but it's bordering on obsessive.[/quote]

Yeah, I was wondering why he was so hot on the topic, but I actually think he's a Redskins fan.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;716438]Dockett has been hammering AH about this all offseason. He even put a note saying next year he was available. Been pretty funny.[/quote]

This is the same Darnell Dockett that was bitching about his contract not too long ago. Don't care much for him and he's been taking swipes at the entire team as well in the past. So screw him.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;716444]Yeah, I was wondering why he was so hot on the topic, but I actually think he's a Redskins fan.[/quote]

Would make sense

Darnell Dockett | #90 | DE
Arizona Cardinals | Official Team Site

Height: 6-4 Weight: 290 Age: 29
Born: 5/27/1981 Burtonville , MD
College: Florida State
Experience: 7th season
High School: Paint Branch HS [Burtonsville, MD]

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Who cares......its darnell dockett.

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I like this Darnell Dockett fella...he is just as much of a star in this league as Fat Albert and he keeps it real. LOL @ I got to pee.

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[quote=Mechanix544;716479]Who cares......its darnell dockett.[/quote]

You say that like he's some chump.

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I say that like he isn't as good as haynesworth.

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[quote=saden1;716486]You say that like he's some chump.[/quote]

well, if arizona cardinals darnell dockett is going out of his way to comment on albert haynesworth of the redskins, then he is a chump in that sense.

these twitter feeds from him are unprovoked and not in response to a reporters questions. if a reporter asks him about the shuttles its one thing, for him to repeatedly send twitter tweets, personaly and on his own time? comes off like a chump, id say bama though b/c he used the word swag.

darnell should worry about darnell and the cardinals. its not offseason anymore. TC has started. hes not responding to questions. its coming off as petty and just plain unnecessary to the point its becoming ish talk to someone (AH) im not sure he has ever met before.

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[quote=Mechanix544;716519]I say that like he isn't as good as haynesworth.[/quote]

His numbers look just as good, he has been to as many pro bowls, and has a SB appearance under his belt...and of course he seems to have a better attitude than Fat Albert.

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[quote=over the mountain;716521]well, if arizona cardinals darnell dockett is going out of his way to comment on albert haynesworth of the redskins, then he is a chump in that sense.

these twitter feeds from him are unprovoked and not in response to a reporters questions. if a reporter asks him about the shuttles its one thing, for him to repeatedly send twitter tweets, personaly and on his own time? comes off like a chump, id say bama though b/c he used the word swag.

darnell should worry about darnell and the cardinals. its not offseason anymore. TC has started. hes not responding to questions. its coming off as petty and just plain unnecessary to the point its becoming ish talk to someone (AH) im not sure he has ever met before.[/quote]

I don't fee like I'm going out of my way when I talk about Fat Albert...do you? I think you have it confused....Darnell Dockett isn't the chump, he's just expressing his views on the real the chump while entertaining himself. Nothing wrong with poking at a loathsome individual like Fat Albert.

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OK, ask yourself this question.

If I had to choose one of those guys to put on my defensive line, which of the two would I take.

If you say Dockett, then you are the chump, regardless of attitude and predispositions on character. Dockett absolutely has the right to tweet about AH. But it makes him look like an idiot in my eyes, because he has never been, and never will be, even HALF of the caliber of player that is Albert Haynesworth. He is a green with envy hater.

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I'm surprised so many people in Skinsland seem concerned about Haynesworth's unfair treatment and worry about his fragile ego and his feelings.

Are u freakin kidding me?

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[quote=Mechanix544;716537]OK, ask yourself this question.

If I had to choose one of those guys to put on my defensive line, which of the two would I take.

If you say Dockett, then you are the chump, regardless of attitude and predispositions on character. Dockett absolutely has the right to tweet about AH. But it makes him look like an idiot in my eyes, because he has never been, and never will be, even HALF of the caliber of player that is Albert Haynesworth. He is a green with envy hater.[/quote]

I think you're vastly underestimating Dockett. I will say this, if Big Al wanted to he could be light years ahead of the rest of the D-linemen in the league. So in that regard, Dockett probably isn't even half the caliber of player Haynesworth COULD be.

But considering the effort they both put on the field (and off), I'd love to have Dockett on my team

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[quote=wilsowilso;716543]I'm surprised so many people in Skinsland seem concerned about Haynesworth's unfair treatment and worry about his fragile ego and his feelings.

Are u freakin kidding me?[/quote]

Im not concerned about his hurt feelings. Just saying that who the hell is Darnell Dockett to go out of his way to comment on AH's situation?

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Guess I'm a chump too because given the choice I would take Dockett over AH, easily.

Dockett is a high motor guy who has alot of passion for the game. Can't say that about AH.

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me and you are skins fans on a skins fan forum talking about a skins player.

darnell is an arizona cardinal. they opened their training camp. darnell should be worried about the cards and darnell.

its getting to the point that this guy is basically shit talking about another player. during the offseason players chimedin their 2 cents. now with the season started, taking unprovoked shots at another player is a chump move imo. basically theres no need for him to be running his mouth at this point unless he has something personally against haynesworth.

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Dockett does run his mouth too much, but there's really no defending AH at this point.

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You know...If the question was posed 2 years ago I'd go with Haynesworth but after AH's bs I would take Dockett over him without hesitation. Dockett is all over the and he doesn't seem to take breaks either. Being in the West coast we get to see Arizona play a lot and I can tell you that Dockett is an elite Defensive player.

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[quote=over the mountain;716551]me and you are skins fans on a skins fan forum talking about a skins player.

darnell is an arizona cardinal. they opened their training camp. darnell should be worried about the cards and darnell.

its getting to the point that this guy is basically shit talking about another player. during the offseason players chimedin their 2 cents. now with the season started, taking unprovoked shots at another player is a chump move imo. basically theres no need for him to be running his mouth at this point unless he has something personally against haynesworth.[/quote]

If you can talk shit about AH so can anyone else. This isn't the US senate, there is no decorum to observer. Plus DD doesn't have to worry about anything, he's good to go.

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If anyone has room to rib Haynesworth, it's most definitely Darnell Dockett. I wouldn't call him dominate, but he's clearly one of the best at his position and consistent.

Secondly, I would have to think Haynesworth is actually getting a kick out of Dockett teasing from a far. I mean, no one really teases a nobody.