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Alvin Walton 07-26-2011 06:15 PM

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[quote=steveo395;813357]I just saw on NFL Network that we resigned Santana Moss to a three year deal.[/quote]

I'll second that.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/867/santana-moss]Santana Moss - Washington Redskins - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

musicmaster45 07-26-2011 06:17 PM

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Rams make deal with S mikell of eagles

NC_Skins 07-26-2011 06:18 PM

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[QUOTE]AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Santana Moss reaches agreement with Washington on a 3-yr deal for $15 million with $5 million signing bonus and $6 million guaranteed. [/QUOTE]


Seems we are going to resign Santana.

NC_Skins 07-26-2011 06:23 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;813346]Latest compensation I've heard is allegedly a 5th and a 7th[/quote]



[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/26/report-vikings-redskins-agree-to-trade-only-if-mcnabb-agrees-to-contract/]Report: Vikings, Redskins agree to trade, only if McNabb agrees to contract | ProFootballTalk[/url]


SOunds like the only thing left is for McNugget to restructure his contract. Which if he doesn't want to play ball, then we should keep him till the end of training camp and then cut him. If that's how he wants to play it.

GTripp0012 07-26-2011 06:28 PM

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Bruce Allen very tepid on the contract he gave Moss, but it's a functional guarantee for the upcoming season. And so that basically just forces the team to get rid of youth on the back end of the preseason. We won't be able to keep Kelly, and Banks, and Austin unless someone ends up on IR before cut down date. And with Niles Paul and Aldrick Robinson in the mix, there will have to be a quick decision made somewhere. Someone we drafted isn't going to get to play in the actually games he was drafted to play in, barring injury.

How silly would it look if they still went after Holmes now? I get bringing back Moss because he's your guy, but if you land Holmes, Moss is now your three, at best. That's good for this year's offense, but I just wouldn't see the point.

MTK 07-26-2011 06:28 PM

Love that we're keeping Moss, I think we'll still go after another WR though.

Picks for McNabb? Pure gravy.

MTK 07-26-2011 06:29 PM

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;813377]Bruce Allen very tepid on the contract he gave Moss, but it's a functional guarantee for the upcoming season. And so that basically just forces the team to get rid of youth on the back end of the preseason. We won't be able to keep Kelly, and Banks, and Austin unless someone ends up on IR before cut down date. And with Niles Paul and Aldrick Robinson in the mix, there will have to be a quick decision made somewhere.

How silly would it look if they still went after Holmes now? I get bringing back Moss because he's your guy, but if you land Holmes, Moss is now your three, at best. That's good for this year's offense, but I just wouldn't see the point.[/QUOTE]

Who's your #2?

budw38 07-26-2011 06:31 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;813381]Who's your #2?[/quote]
I wonder where Gary Clark is :)

GTripp0012 07-26-2011 06:33 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;813381]Who's your #2?[/quote]Well, our one from last year, Armstrong. But I've been so high on Hankerson since the end of the college season, I could see him playing his way onto the field on an every down basis.

That's a good problem to have, at least. Hard to have too much depth at the receiver position. But if you end up cutting future performers because you don't have space on the roster, then you have too much depth.

I firmly believe the injury bug is probably going to make this signing look good. I just don't see where Moss fits in with everyone healthy. Just remember: I didn't see the logic in drafting LaRon Landry at safety with Sean Taylor already in the fold. And that...well, Landry is perhaps our only building block right now. The ends can justify the means.

Biggest concern: we do actually need the depth, but have to expose a valuable player to waivers trying to pass him through to the PS simply because he didn't have enough of a chance to earn his spot on the 53 man.

SmootSmack 07-26-2011 06:33 PM

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[quote=REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE;813349]Carlos Rogers Hands>>>>>>>>Braylon Edwards Hands........I'd be PISSED....I'd rather put my faith in the hands of our current WR core w/o any FA WRs added, that's how wack Edwards is to me. He'll put a deep TD out of his ass every now and then, but he's garbage.[/quote]

Edwards had only like two drops last year out of 100 or so targets (not exact numbers of course).

Yes he had the dropsies in Cleveland but he has significantly improved as a reliable receiver, thanks in no small part to spending time with Henry Ellard

MTK 07-26-2011 06:34 PM

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Yanda staying with the Ravens.

REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE 07-26-2011 06:34 PM

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[quote=steveo395;813357]I just saw on NFL Network that we resigned Santana Moss to a three year deal.[/quote]


NICE!!!! Never wanted him to leave, I was just tired of always going into the season with him as our #1 WR.


FA WR:_________, Armstrong, Moss & Hankerson= Very solid WR core (assuming Hankerson is on his job).

CultBrennan59 07-26-2011 06:35 PM

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Marshal Yanda agrees to 4 year deal with the Ravens

SmootSmack 07-26-2011 06:35 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;813363]I'll second that.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/867/santana-moss]Santana Moss - Washington Redskins - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url][/quote]

Not surprised, but good to hear. This merits its own thread though, why don't you start it

SkinzWin 07-26-2011 06:40 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;813395]Marshal Yanda agrees to 4 year deal with the Ravens[/quote]

NOOOOOO!!!! I wanted him so bad!

SmootSmack 07-26-2011 06:40 PM

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Leinart buzz creeping up again. There's actually a bit of a bidding war for him it seems

REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE 07-26-2011 06:45 PM

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WV RB Noel Devine going to the Eagles.......more speed in Philly

Dirtbag59 07-26-2011 06:46 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;813391]Yanda staying with the Ravens.[/quote]

[YT]WWaLxFIVX1s[/YT]

Dirtbag59 07-26-2011 06:47 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;813400]Leinart buzz creeping up again. There's actually a bit of a bidding war for him it seems[/quote]

Bidding war? Between who? Arizona and Minnesota lol.

NC_Skins 07-26-2011 06:49 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;813413]Bidding war? Between who? Arizona and Minnesota lol.[/quote]

Us actually.

musicmaster45 07-26-2011 06:50 PM

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and seattle form what i hear

Dirtbag59 07-26-2011 06:52 PM

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[quote=musicmaster45;813419]and seattle form what i hear[/quote]
[YT]WWaLxFIVX1s[/YT]

mooby 07-26-2011 06:55 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;813424][YT]WWaLxFIVX1s[/YT][/quote]

Loll I'll grant you this, you are the king of posting timely Youtube videos that are hilarious at exactly the right moment. Me and Darth are thinking exactly on the same lines here.

MTK 07-26-2011 06:56 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;813389]Well, our one from last year, Armstrong. But I've been so high on Hankerson since the end of the college season, I could see him playing his way onto the field on an every down basis.

That's a good problem to have, at least. Hard to have too much depth at the receiver position. But if you end up cutting future performers because you don't have space on the roster, then you have too much depth.

I firmly believe the injury bug is probably going to make this signing look good. I just don't see where Moss fits in with everyone healthy. Just remember: I didn't see the logic in drafting LaRon Landry at safety with Sean Taylor already in the fold. And that...well, Landry is perhaps our only building block right now. The ends can justify the means.

Biggest concern: we do actually need the depth, but have to expose a valuable player to waivers trying to pass him through to the PS simply because he didn't have enough of a chance to earn his spot on the 53 man.[/quote]

I guess I'm just not as high on AA as some. Nice deep threat, but we've yet to see if he can be anything more than that on a consistent basis.

If we still went after someone like Holmes/Edwards/Rice, I would see that guy and Moss as 1-2, and Hankerson and AA as 3-4. I like Hankerson too but it might take some time for him to work his way on the field consistently. These young guys are going to be facing a steep curve in their rookie years.

SmootSmack 07-26-2011 07:09 PM

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Various reports are now saying Leinart is going to Seattle. Jackson, Leinart, and Whitehurst in Seattle? Doesn't seem quite right. Never has the statement "when you have three quarterbacks, you have none" rung more true

Dirtbag59 07-26-2011 07:14 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;813455]Various reports are now saying Leinart is going to Seattle. Jackson, Leinart, and Whitehurst in Seattle? Doesn't seem quite right. Never has the statement "when you have three quarterbacks, you have none" rung more true[/quote]

Please, everyone knows who's going to win that battle.

SBXVII 07-26-2011 07:17 PM

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I look at it this way, we still need a #1 WR. Someone who is the go to guy. Someone proven would be nice and hope the rookies step up. We don't know what we have in the new guys.... they could turn out to be like Thomas and Kelly for all we know, and speaking of Kelly they might not be wanting put their eggs all in one basket.

They resigned Moss so all he does right now is fill his own spot. so if we pick up another WR then yes someone will have to go who's on the active roster not the two PS WR's from last year, but an actual active spot. Maybe Austin gets cut, maybe Banks if they find someone else who can KR/PR.

I too would rather have too many and be worrying about who to keep vs. starting the season hoping someone steps up and they don't.

NC_Skins 07-26-2011 07:19 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;813461]Please, everyone knows who's going to win that battle.[/quote]


It's going to come down to a hair competition.

Longtimefan 07-26-2011 07:29 PM

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11:45 a.m.—Jason LaCanfora of the NFL Network reports that before the lockout, Ravens offensive lineman Marshall Yanda rejected a contract offer from the Ravens that was worth $6.5 million a year (report through Rotoworld).


LaCanfora previously reported that the Redskins are interested in Yanda, who can play either guard or tackle. If they do indeed want to bring Yanda on board, the Redskins now know where the bidding for his services starts.

Dirtbag59 07-26-2011 07:35 PM

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[quote=Longtimefan;813469]11:45 a.m.—Jason LaCanfora of the NFL Network reports that before the lockout, Ravens offensive lineman Marshall Yanda rejected a contract offer from the Ravens that was worth $6.5 million a year (report through Rotoworld).


LaCanfora previously reported that the Redskins are interested in Yanda, who can play either guard or tackle. If they do indeed want to bring Yanda on board, the Redskins now know where the bidding for his services starts.[/quote]

He's already resigned with the Ravens.

GTripp0012 07-26-2011 07:35 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;813455]Various reports are now saying Leinart is going to Seattle. Jackson, Leinart, and Whitehurst in Seattle? Doesn't seem quite right. Never has the statement "when you have three quarterbacks, you have none" rung more true[/quote]Of course, the status quo for quarterbacks has been to give up a bazillion draft picks and dollars for the right to have the opportunity to commit the same error again at a later point.

They just need NFC West level competency out of that group. If they end up being the 2010 Cardinals at that position, then they've failed. If they end up being the 2008 Bears, then they're going to win their division again.

NC_Skins 07-26-2011 07:36 PM

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[quote=Longtimefan;813469]11:45 a.m.—Jason LaCanfora of the NFL Network reports that before the lockout, Ravens offensive lineman Marshall Yanda rejected a contract offer from the Ravens that was worth $6.5 million a year (report through Rotoworld).


LaCanfora previously reported that the Redskins are interested in Yanda, who can play either guard or tackle. If they do indeed want to bring Yanda on board, the Redskins now know where the bidding for his services starts.[/quote]

That time has already came and gone today. Baltimore won out and he resigned. My guess it's in the 7-8 mil/per range.

GTripp0012 07-26-2011 07:41 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;813429]I guess I'm just not as high on AA as some. Nice deep threat, but we've yet to see if he can be anything more than that on a consistent basis.

If we still went after someone like Holmes/Edwards/Rice, I would see that guy and Moss as 1-2, and Hankerson and AA as 3-4. I like Hankerson too but it might take some time for him to work his way on the field consistently. These young guys are going to be facing a steep curve in their rookie years.[/quote]Well, Rice is different because he is young. He's going to be 25 this season. He'd be a good signing because he'd still be in his prime at a point where Moss is no longer on the team. Rice is a year older than Malcolm Kelly, and would theoretically just replace him on the roster.

Holmes isn't exactly aging at 27, but he's not Sidney Rice. He's one of the best players on the market, but again, if the goal is to improve the wide receivers by adding the most talent, that would make Moss a complete non-fit, if not a roster obstruction. What I'm saying is that going after Holmes to bolster the ability of this group is one thing. Going after Moss to show loyalty to what you think you began building last year is another thing. Bringing in both is just the absence of a focused plan. It's neither moving on or staying the course. It's megalomania - acting for the sake of acting.

The status quo plus some depth is fine in 2011. That's where Moss fits in, it would seem.

Dirtbag59 07-26-2011 07:42 PM

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Look it's our new DE
[IMG]http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1322852160/Mr_T.jpg[/IMG]

Alvin Walton 07-26-2011 07:47 PM

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Why does he have a fishnet around his neck?

Shadowbyte 07-26-2011 07:58 PM

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I would rather sign Plaxico than give Holmes all that money. That way we have our endzone/possesion reciever and Moss & Hankerson as our deepthreats.

Alvin Walton 07-26-2011 08:13 PM

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A shot in the leg fresh out of jail idiot....pass

NC_Skins 07-26-2011 08:22 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;813491]A shot in the leg fresh out of jail idiot....pass[/quote]


hahaha..... this cracked me up for some reason.

Alvin Walton 07-26-2011 08:25 PM

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More Nnnammomdee to the Jets chatter.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/779/nnamdi-asomugha]Nnamdi Asomugha - Oakland Raiders - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

skinsfaninok 07-26-2011 08:28 PM

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did we sign jenkins?


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