Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;880530]Is that legal nowadays?[/quote]

Yep, still legal.

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[quote=Mattyk;880527]At this point seems like best case he sits out a year, and maybe tries to come back next year.[/quote]

I don't know, he's already sat out one full year, do you think another year will make a difference?

Unlike Favre, once Peyton says he's done, he's really going to be done. More and more reports indicate it will be sooner rather than later, which is a shame but things like nerve damage/regeneration can't be rehabbed past what the body will do on it's own.

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 

He'll probably announce his retirement after the Super Bowl as to not step on Eli's moment in the spotlight.

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[quote=Paintrain;880545]I don't know, he's already sat out one full year, do you think another year will make a difference?

Unlike Favre, once Peyton says he's done, he's really going to be done. More and more reports indicate it will be sooner rather than later, which is a shame but things like nerve damage/regeneration can't be rehabbed past what the body will do on it's own.[/quote]

With his condition you just don't know. The nerve could regenerate next week, next month, or next year, or it might never come back. Let's say hypothetically his doctors give him the green light in 6 months. You would have to think he would consider coming back next year.

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[quote=12thMan;880551]He'll probably announce his retirement after the Super Bowl as to not step on Eli's moment in the spotlight.[/quote]

If he does announce his retirement, I'll bet he waits until training camp. He's going to want to take time to see how everything is shaking out and leave room for a miracle recovery if need be.

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[quote=Lotus;880560]If he does announce his retirement, I'll bet he waits until training camp. He's going to want to take time to see how everything is shaking out and leave room for a miracle recovery if need be.[/quote]

I think he's done. I'd be surprised if he found a doctor clearing him to play.

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[quote=Lotus;880560]If he does announce his retirement, I'll bet he waits until training camp. He's going to want to take time to see how everything is shaking out and leave room for a miracle recovery if need be.[/quote]

good point, the colts will have to make a couple decisions prior to that. Likely both will be to cut ties w/PM

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 

My sources tell me that redskins are going after QBs in the following order
1. Andrew Luck
2. Sam bradford
3. Colt Mccoy
4. Nick Foles
5. Ryan Mallet
6. RG3
7. Mark Sanchez

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[quote=iamsrk;880581]My sources tell me that redskins are going after QBs in the following order
1. Andrew Luck
2. Sam bradford
3. Colt Mccoy
4. Nick Foles
5. Ryan Mallet
6. RG3
7. Mark Sanchez[/quote]

Who are your 'sources'?

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[quote=iamsrk;880581]My sources tell me that redskins are going after QBs in the following order
1. Andrew Luck
2. Sam bradford
3. Colt Mccoy
4. Nick Foles
5. Ryan Mallet
6. RG3
7. Mark Sanchez[/quote]

Mallett? Really? Seems unlikely.

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[quote=iamsrk;880581]My sources tell me that redskins are going after QBs in the following order
1. Andrew Luck
2. Sam bradford
3. Colt Mccoy
4. Nick Foles
5. Ryan Mallet
6. RG3
7. Mark Sanchez[/quote]


hmm... random new poster with his/her's first post does this. I am going to bookmark it to see how close it ties out.

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 

[quote=los panda;880344]has there ever been a more physically gifted wr than calvin johnson?[/quote]

Tim Tebow

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[quote=iamsrk;880581]My sources tell me that redskins are going after QBs in the following order
1. Andrew Luck
2. Sam bradford
3. Colt Mccoy
4. Nick Foles
5. Ryan Mallet
6. RG3
7. Mark Sanchez[/quote]

If I felt those were my only choices then I would take Luck over all of them as well.

Bradfors has had what 2 yrs and still has not lived up to his 1st round billing and I doubt he does. He is a QB I feel if everything else around him was exceptional ie; OL, and WR's then he will flourish but the problem is I don't see the Skins in any better shape then the Rams were yet he's supposed to do better?

Of all the active QB's I'd say McCoy really didn't have the best weapons or OL and should be given some time with a better scenario, but I don't think the Skins need to trade for him. If he's cut then I'd say pick him up.

Mallet- no thanks. I'd rather keep Grossman and we know what we have in Grossman.

I wonder why RGIII is so low if that truly is the list order? I'd rather have him over Bradford (and the Rams must feel the same).

Sanchez- I never bought in to him being a franchise QB and still have not. If my options wer to get him or try the draft I'd go draft and see what Tannehill, Weeden, Cousins, or Wilson could do.

Why isn't Flynn in there?

If that was my list I'd just take next best available QB and quite possibly look at taking another in the 2nd round. Maybe trade back in the 1st round to get more picks to accomplish this. Tannehill and Wilson duo would be neat. (this coming from a Weeden fan.)

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Ryan Mallett?

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[quote=iamsrk;880581]My sources tell me that redskins are going after QBs in the following order
1. Andrew Luck
2. Sam bradford
3. Colt Mccoy
4. Nick Foles
5. Ryan Mallet
6. RG3
7. Mark Sanchez[/quote]

Didn't realize there was an order that deep already

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i don't see a franchise qb when i look at sanchez

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my sources tell me the skins will do whatever it takes to draft the next franchise QB

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 

[quote=los panda;880600]i don't see a franchise qb when i look at sanchez[/quote]


who does?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;880602]who does?[/quote]

Foot Fetish Jersey/B

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[quote=skinsfaninok;880601]my sources tell me the skins will do whatever it takes to draft the next franchise QB[/quote]

Gosh I hope that is true. In the end I don't care who it is as long as we are aggressive in getting the guy the Shannys like.

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[quote=los panda;880600]i don't see a franchise qb when i look at sanchez[/quote]

OK, I freely admit that I have seen Sanchez play only a handful of games, but I am certainly UNIMPRESSED by what I have seen. Me belief is that he would perform no better than Grossman if he came to DC; in fact he might even be worse than Rex in some respects. The Redskins need to upgarde the QB position, and I dont think Sanchez does that for us.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;880601]my sources tell me the skins will do whatever it takes to draft the next franchise QB[/quote]

Does that mean Luck or RGIII, and nobody else, or might there be other potential draftable franchise players at the QB position in the opinion of your sources?

FYI, I saw that Mayock has rated Tannehill the number three QB prospect on his list; not sure but I think that might be an upgrade for him.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;880601]my sources tell me the skins will do whatever it takes to draft the next franchise QB[/quote]

Not doubting your sources but I would think they will do this- within reason. It's been pretty public that MS doesn't want to burn draft picks.

I was joking guys sorry making fun of the noob who posted about his sources lol, but I do see the skins doing what it takes to try for Andrew luck

[QUOTE=redsk1;880632]Not doubting your sources but I would think they will do this- within reason. It's been pretty public that MS doesn't want to burn draft picks.[/QUOTE]

That's what he's saying now but we still have a few months

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[quote=skinsfaninok;880633]I was joking guys sorry making fun of the noob who posted about his sources lol, but I do see the skins doing what it takes to try for Andrew luck[/quote]

I've been going both ways of this, and I think I've finally come to a conclusion: We should do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck. He is a once and a generation QB and we can't pass up on that chance.

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Just heard Trey Wingo's sit down interview with Peyton Manning today- his first since this whole firestorm started. Peyton certainly sounds like a guy who is pretty sure he's gonna play again.

He also said that the doctors say he's on track, whatever that means.

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if you think luck is a rare qb, please tell us why in your own words

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[quote=iamsrk;880581]My sources tell me that redskins are going after QBs in the following order
1. Andrew Luck
2. Sam bradford
3. Colt Mccoy
4. Nick Foles
5. Ryan Mallet
6. RG3
7. Mark Sanchez[/quote]

Let's ignore order for a second

1. Clearly

2. Of course, see this thread for 1 and 2

3. He'll be available most likely. Are we interested...eh, maybe

4. For sure under strong consideration at the top of the 2nd. Kyle's a fan

5. Ummmmmmm

6. Believe Mike likes him better than Kyle

7. Would love to know where you heard this

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[quote=skinsfaninok;880633]I was joking guys sorry making fun of the noob who posted about his sources lol, but I do see the skins doing what it takes to try for Andrew luck[/quote]

Ahhh gotcha. I think they'll make a run at #1 or #2, but in the end I think we'll have to give up too much.

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So Smoot is Foles the leader as far as 2nd tier QBs? I wouldn't be too upset at a Claiborne/Blackmon 1st rd with Foles in the second but I just can't see if RGIII is there at 6 which I think he will be why we would pass on him.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;880675]So Smoot is Foles the leader as far as 2nd tier QBs? I wouldn't be too upset at a Claiborne/Blackmon 1st rd with Foles in the second but I just can't see if RGIII is there at 6 which I think he will be why we would pass on him.[/quote]

I wouldn't say that. Not sure there's a clear cut leader quite yet

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;880675]So Smoot is Foles the leader as far as 2nd tier QBs? I wouldn't be too upset at a Claiborne/Blackmon 1st rd with Foles in the second but I just can't see if RGIII is there at 6 which I think he will be why we would pass on him.[/quote]

What makes you think RG3 is going to get past Cleveland?

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[quote=mbedner3420;880679]What makes you think RG3 is going to get past Cleveland?[/quote]

I see them drafting Blackmon or Richardson giving McCoy another year and possibly signing a FA QB to backup Colt.

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[quote=SmootSmack;880678]I wouldn't say that. Not sure there's a clear cut leader quite yet[/quote]

Fair enough, I saw before that you think Mike likes RGIII more than Kyle, what do you think Kyle does not like about him and do you think Mike would still draft him if Kyle says he doesn't want him?

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Rumor is that they will look at bringing Colt McCoy and Jordan Shipley (from Bengals) into their roster. McCoy and Shipley played football for Texas Longhorns and formed an amazing pair back then. They believe that if they provide McCoy with Shipley and a few additional weapons, he can make a strong case for a franchise qb.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;880680]I see them drafting Blackmon or Richardson giving McCoy another year and possibly signing a FA QB to backup Colt.[/quote]

As you know Quake, I'm in complete agreement with you here. I think RG3 is a top 5 talent, but it's possible he could be a top 6 pick.

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[quote=iamsrk;880682]Rumor is that they will look at bringing Colt McCoy and Jordan Shipley (from Bengals) into their roster. McCoy and Shipley played football for Texas Longhorns and formed an amazing pair back then. They believe that if they provide McCoy with Shipley and a few additional weapons, he can make a strong case for a franchise qb.[/quote]


rumor has it that your rumor is full of it and my sources also tell me your bleacher report sources are not reliable sources

Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)
 

[quote=iamsrk;880682]Rumor is that they will look at bringing Colt McCoy and Jordan Shipley (from Bengals) into their roster. McCoy and Shipley played football for Texas Longhorns and formed an amazing pair back then. They believe that if they provide McCoy with Shipley and a few additional weapons, he can make a strong case for a franchise qb.[/quote]

Yeah I've heard those rumors too, from outside the organization. But from what I've gathered there isn't much substance behind them other than Kyle is a Longhorn guy so it's automatically assumed he likes all Texas players

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;880681]Fair enough, I saw before that you think Mike likes RGIII more than Kyle, what do you think Kyle does not like about him and do you think Mike would still draft him if Kyle says he doesn't want him?[/quote]

Probably yes, to your second question. To your first I don't know