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[quote=mbedner3420;884086]These guys are getting nauseating. Stop making baseless claims.[/quote]


My cousin from another cousins baby brother that has a step dad who knows Bruce Allens 4th cousins cousin predicts we will Sign Archie not Peyton

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[quote=iamsrk;884071]All signs point towards a COLT becoming the next redskins QB. But I'm afraid we are not referring to the same Colt.[/quote]

An insider on [URL="www.goeatashhhhsandwich.com"]another board[/URL] told me that our next qb will be a guy who has played qb in the NCAA or the NFL within the last year. Now, I can't confirm that, but he's been really reliable in the past.

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Is iamsrk someone worth paying attention to or just a troll?

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Troll.

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Let's all stare at DC Tailgate. That'll make iamsrk disappear. ;)

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[quote=Mattyk;883895]Um...[/quote]

Height weight is on point

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[quote=NC_Skins;883901]Is it assholish (FD school of language student) of me to want to see another team leap us and grab RGIII just so I can see many of those guys at ES implode?


I think I would make an account just so I could post this.

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I think it is more ignorant because if you'd rather prove a point to a web forum rather fthan potentially have a solid qb .... not to say he's guaranteed to be that

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[quote=SmootSmack;884006]I wish Nissan would go back to being Datsun...did I just age myself?[/quote]

My stepdads z had both the Nissan and Datsun badges... 87 300 iirc

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[quote=SmootSmack;884006]I wish Nissan would go back to being Datsun...did I just age myself?[/quote]

Nah, you're just the history buff here. ;)

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[quote=Chico23231;884002]Thats what im saying Tripp about a Kyle vs Shanny thing on the offense. They dont seem to be on the same page when it comes to QB and most important, stratgy. I dont see why Henne not being talked about, he's a better option than Orton.[/quote]But how would we [I][B]know[/B][/I] if they are on the same page or not?

I think its much more likely that Mike and Kyle are more on the same page then not.

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Fair point.

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[quote=tryfuhl;884137]I think it is more ignorant because if you'd rather prove a point to a web forum rather fthan potentially have a solid qb .... not to say he's guaranteed to be that[/quote]

No point to prove. It wasn't a statement in regards to how he'll turn out. It is in reference to how many people have their heart/mind set on us moving up to draft this kid and aren't considering anything else viable. They are setting themselves up for a huge letdown. This doesn't have anything to do with whether I think drafting him is wrong or if I think he'll be a bust. I want the kid, but I'm quite sure that Mike isn't going to trade up to get him. It's just going to be funny to watch all these people explode if or when it doesn't happen.

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[quote=NC_Skins;884221]No point to prove. It wasn't a statement in regards to how he'll turn out. It is in reference to how many people have their heart/mind set on us moving up to draft this kid and aren't considering anything else viable. They are setting themselves up for a huge letdown. This doesn't have anything to do with whether I think drafting him is wrong or if I think he'll be a bust. I want the kid, but I'm quite sure that Mike isn't going to trade up to get him. It's just going to be funny to watch all these people explode if or when it doesn't happen.[/quote]

I agree that the community that is deadset on the idea of that could likely be disappointed

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[quote=SmootSmack;884036]I wonder who this new Warpather is[/quote]

Figured it was your ae lol

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[quote=GTripp0012;884215]Fair point.[/quote]

Because of the Henne mention? ;)

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[quote=30gut;884210]But how would we [I][B]know[/B][/I] if they are on the same page or not?

I think its much more likely that Mike and Kyle are more on the same page then not.[/quote]

we dont for sure, but we do know from recent history they dont appear to be and what we hear from rumors its always Mikes likes this guy, Kyle prefers the other guy...but hey we all are really assuming and critiquing alot from a distance.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;884100]My cousin from another cousins baby brother that has a step dad who knows Bruce Allens 4th cousins cousin predicts we will Sign Archie not Peyton[/quote]

Hahahaha Well at least your sources have more credibility.

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[quote=NC_Skins;884221]No point to prove. It wasn't a statement in regards to how he'll turn out. It is in reference to how many people have their heart/mind set on us moving up to draft this kid and aren't considering anything else viable. They are setting themselves up for a huge letdown. This doesn't have anything to do with whether I think drafting him is wrong or if I think he'll be a bust. I want the kid, but I'm quite sure that Mike isn't going to trade up to get him. It's just going to be funny to watch all these people explode if or when it doesn't happen.[/quote]

From a guy who's debated this topic at length with the masses on ES, I can fully agree with your sentiment here.

Some of these guys have literally said;
-They would trade five first round draft choices for RG3
-Gaffney is a #1 receiver

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Like you I wouldn't mind drafting RG3, if he fell to us at 6, but I don't see that happening. Furthermore I think trading back and snagging Tannehill is a pretty awesome consolation prize. Both RG3 and Tannehill have low floors, and both guys have high ceilings but for different reasons.

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[quote=Mahons21;884589]From a guy who's debated this topic at length with the masses on ES, I can fully agree with your sentiment here.

Some of these guys have literally said;
-They would trade five first round draft choices for RG3
-Gaffney is a #1 receiver

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Like you I wouldn't mind drafting RG3, if he fell to us at 6, but I don't see that happening. Furthermore I think trading back and snagging Tannehill is a pretty awesome consolation prize. Both RG3 and Tannehill have low floors, and both guys have high ceilings but for different reasons.[/quote]

nice opening post, welcome. I dont know how great of a consolation prize Tannehill will be though compare to other talent we need vs whats available with a 1st round draft pick.

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[quote=Chico23231;884593]nice opening post, welcome.[/quote]
Appreciate it.


[quote]I dont know how great of a consolation prize Tannehill will be though compare to other talent we need vs whats available with a 1st round draft pick.[/quote]

Ideally we would acquire Tannehill by trading back and picking him up in the end of the 1st round, acquiring an additional 2nd rd pick along the way.

But who knows, it's all going to depend on how FA pans out, and who's drafted before we pick.

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[quote=Mahons21;884597]Appreciate it.




[B]Ideally we would acquire Tannehill by trading back and picking him up in the end of the 1st round, acquiring an additional 2nd rd pick along the way.
[/B]
But who knows, it's all going to depend on how FA pans out, and who's drafted before we pick.[/quote]

Welcome to the board. You stole my argument. :) Great minds think alike.

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[quote=Mahons21;884597]Appreciate it.




Ideally we would acquire Tannehill by trading back and picking him up in the end of the 1st round, acquiring an additional 2nd rd pick along the way.

But who knows, it's all going to depend on how FA pans out, and who's drafted before we pick.[/quote]

That's my ideal scenario. If we give up a couple of year's worth of draft picks, we might still have a major letdown even if the QB we choose works out.

FA is still a great venue for adding talent, but if we are missing high picks in the draft for 2-3 years when we lack so much talent, I'd just rather have the picks.

Don't get me wrong, the QB situation HAS to be addressed, but not at the cost. Maybe we end up trading up and it's way more cost effective than any of us think, but I won't hold my breath on that one...

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So much depends on how FA plays out, but I'm not sure I see Tannehill making it past Seattle at 12.

But let's say we sign Peyton, then I could see a trade down into the later 2nd/early 3rd where you pick a guy like Foles or Cousins and/or maybe you find someway to add a 1st in 2013

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[quote=SmootSmack;884612]So much depends on how FA plays out, but I'm not sure I see Tannehill making it past Seattle at 12.

But let's say we sign Peyton, then I could see a trade down into the later 2nd/early 3rd where you pick a guy like Foles or Cousins and/or maybe you find someway to add a 1st in 2013[/quote]

And THAT would be one hell of a price to pay to move up that high. PROVIDED we can get an improvement over Grossman, I'm OK just letting the next few years play out with whomever is at QB.

If that Luck deal was still possible, I'm willing to take that risk, but right now I don't know if I'd trade a ton of picks to move up for RGIII.

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IMO signing PM will make some FA want to come here, other than money.

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In trade down scenario, I like the trade back with Cincy, the 17th and 21st pick. They are looking for a RB, Trent is there for them. We pick 17 and could trade back again with the 21st.

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[quote=Chico23231;884621]In trade down scenario, I like the trade back with Cincy, the 17th and 21st pick. They are looking for a RB, Trent is there for them. We pick 17 and could trade back again with the 21st.[/quote]

Who do you take there that's still available? If Tannehill is gone, I'd take the best OT available and then CB.

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[quote=Chico23231;884621]In trade down scenario, I like the trade back with Cincy, the 17th and 21st pick. They are looking for a RB, Trent is there for them. We pick 17 and could trade back again with the 21st.[/quote]

That would be fantastic, wishfull thinking.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;884624]Who do you take there that's still available? If Tannehill is gone,[B] I'd take the best OT available [/B]and then CB.[/quote]

Agree, not really worried about Tann, if we're picking in the first then We have PM or best FA QB available & we will be picking up a project QB in the late 2nd to 4th round IMO.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;884624]Who do you take there that's still available? If Tannehill is gone, I'd take the best OT available and then CB.[/quote]

If Cincy did that (unlikely) then I would want Tannehill and Adams/Glenn. If I couldn't do one or the other (almost certainly Tannehill, as I can't imagine both of those Ts would be gone), then I would probably want to trade down again.

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I just really like the depth we're building. Hurt might not ever be a starting lineman in the NFL, but he certainly held his own after being thrown into the fire. With limited talent, the system really showed that it can protect the QB. Cannot imagine the same system WITH talent.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;884624]Who do you take there that's still available? If Tannehill is gone, I'd take the best OT available and then CB.[/quote]

OT Adams from Ohio State is big and mobile and maybe Kendal Wright WR from Baylor. Maybe Guard DeCastro of stanford or the best availiable CB.

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[quote=Chico23231;884635]OT Adams from Ohio State is big and mobile and maybe[B] Kendal Wright [/B]WR from Baylor. Maybe Guard DeCastro of stanford or the best availiable CB.[/quote]

I think we are getting Eddie Royal in FA so him and Wright are basically the same although Wright has more speed I think. I would go Adams then trade back & get more picks.

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[quote=Chico23231;884635]OT Adams from Ohio State is big and mobile and maybe Kendal Wright WR from Baylor. Maybe Guard DeCastro of stanford or the best availiable CB.[/quote]

Definitely down with that scenario. Something tells me Reiff drops too and I'd snap him up there. I just like the idea of having two blue chip draft picks (TW being the other) that are interchangeable and you could move left to right if needed.

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Well options abound when Peyton Manning is your starting QB.

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Sure, if Manning comes here, do you think that Wayne comes too?

I think he has a year or two left in him with Peyton as a QB.

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[quote=SmootSmack;884612]So much depends on how FA plays out, [B]but I'm not sure I see Tannehill making it past Seattle at 12.
[/B]
But let's say we sign Peyton, then I could see a trade down into the later 2nd/early 3rd where you pick a guy like Foles or Cousins and/or maybe you find someway to add a 1st in 2013[/quote]

Personally Tannehill is the "worst" QB I'd like to see us draft. Given his injury, he might go lower than otherwise. But we still could, perhaps, trade back to #11 and get an extra pick while still nabbing RT...especially if Miami signs Flynn.

On the other hand, I would not mind it if we took him at #6 (cue the "That's a reach!" chorus).

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;884646]Sure, if Manning comes here, do you think that Wayne comes too?

I think he has a year or two left in him with Peyton as a QB.[/quote]

I dont think so, only player likely to come would be Saturday at C as a FA.

Garcon wouldnt be bad. Wayne is bout done.

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[quote=Chico23231;884649]I dont think so, only player likely to come would be Saturday at C as a FA.

Garcon wouldnt be bad. Wayne is bout done.[/quote]

I don't know if I agree about Wayne. He dropped 400 yards from Peyton to the garbage he had throwing to him all year and he almost put up 1000 again. Now I know I'm coming across as a Peyton proponent, but I really am just all about keeping draft picks, improving (not solving unless some miracle happens) the QB position and building quality depth.

We have a bit of cap space to work with and unless we're targeting a HUGE FA besides Manning, I think we could afford it.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;884656]I don't know if I agree about Wayne. He dropped 400 yards from Peyton to the garbage he had throwing to him all year and he almost put up 1000 again. Now I know I'm coming across as a Peyton proponent, but I really am just all about keeping draft picks, improving (not solving unless some miracle happens) the QB position and building quality depth.

We have a bit of cap space to work with and unless we're targeting a HUGE FA besides Manning, I think we could afford it.[/quote]

Done is probably not the right word. I just wouldnt want several players declining together on the offense. I really wouldnt want to sign Saturday, but I think he is more likely player to come over with Manning. Im for a veteran presence at the Receiver position, Moss is on his way out most likely, so it makes since for Gaffney to step into that role. With that being said, WR position still needs to be addressed this offseason.