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[quote=The Goat;898242]Solid post 30. Garcon is a grass is greener acquisition, but we can still hope "this" is the one time (out of 10+) we're right!![/quote]

Garçons guaranteed $$ is less than 21 mil

I know some here think these signings are garbage but think about who our QB is about to be? A young scrambler with a rocket arm that needs his recivers to have speed down field, and garcon has gotten better every year he's a good signing

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Someone forgot a stat in comparing Moss, Gaffney and Garcon:

Gaffney 31
Moss 32
Garcon 25

Gaffney and Garcon may have had similar years last season, but they are passing each other on different trajectories.

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On Garcon and Morgan, those contracts a legit. Player-friendly, not team friendly.

Redskins got a pretty good bargain on Carriker though.

Feel like Redskins are going to hold out and try to "win" against Fletcher, where they were okay to give Garcon the eye-popping numbers he was looking for.

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Look who was throwing the ball to Garcon as well

[QUOTE=tryfuhl;898250]Look who was throwing the ball to Garcon as well[/QUOTE]

Last year was SS throwing him the ball and he had a good year. :)

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[quote=donofriose;898021]If you have a big athletic tight end you don't necessarily need a tall receiver on the outside, it helps but its not necessary, The Packers and Patriots don't really have [B]giant [/B]all receivers. I believe the first round that your record indicates, so if the Patriots wanted to give up a pick it would be the 31 and not the 27th. Not sure though.[/quote]

Speaking of the Giants, they don't have a 6'2 plus possession WR either but still have a great passing game (because of Peyton's baby brother).

It really depends on the QB and more specifically how accurate he is i.e. less accurate QBs will need larger WR to reach the same completion success as the more accurate passer w/ average size WR. Fingers crossed RGIII is the latter :)

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what's nicks? he goes UP to get it

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Nicks is 6'1" 208lbs

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;898273]Nicks is 6'1" 208lbs[/QUOTE]

He plays like he's 6"4

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[quote=los panda;898269]what's nicks? he goes UP to get it[/quote]

I agree he plays bigger than he is los. From what limited action he had, I thinks it's reasonable to hope Hankerson will play the same way.

The Royal deal I don't get tho beyond the Denver connection...

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I like the pickups. Garcon I'm really excited about, Morgan I hope he becomes more consistent but he was considered a sleeper by many in NFL circles. It always is encouraging when we sign players (Garcon & Morgan) that their old teams wanted to keep but for some reason couldn't. Means they saw some value in their 4 years there.

I've wanted Royal since Shanny got here and think that Moss is done so he'd be an apt replacement for Moss.

[QUOTE=The Goat;898275]I agree he plays bigger than he is los. From what limited action he had, I thinks it's reasonable to hope Hankerson will play the same way.

The Royal deal I don't get tho beyond the Denver connection...[/QUOTE]

If we cut moss I see it but if not then idk. Also Hank looked great vs Miami but injury that early is scary

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[quote=GTripp0012;898249]On Garcon and Morgan, those contracts a legit. Player-friendly, not team friendly.

Redskins got a pretty good bargain on Carriker though.

Feel like Redskins are going to hold out and try to "win" against Fletcher, where they were okay to give Garcon the eye-popping numbers he was looking for.[/quote]

Good. Garçon is 25. Fletcher is 36. If we're going to invest Big in someone it should be the guy who will still be in the nfl in 5 years. Fletcher is excellent, but his best days are behind them. He's going to hit a wall sooner or later and I'd rather lose him a year too early than hold on to him a year too long. It's a tough situation but that's how a responsible team operates.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;898284]Good. Garçon is 25. Fletcher is 36. If we're going to invest Big in someone it should be the guy who will still be in the nfl in 5 years. Fletcher is excellent, but his best days are behind them. He's going to hit a wall sooner or later and I'd rather lose him a year too early than hold on to him a year too long. It's a tough situation but that's how a responsible team operates.[/quote]

Only holds true if there's a (defensive) leader and locker-room leader to replace him. Tough call imo...

Is Morton's some kind of steak place?

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He does and his ginormus hands don't hurt. That was one of the positives about Hankerson. Royal is a burner, returner who can work the slot with Garcon and Hankerson working the outside and Morgan as the possession guy over the middle.

Plus he has 95 speed in Madden and Madden speed kills.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;898286]Is Morton's some kind of steak place?[/quote]it is

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;898287]He does and his ginormus hands don't hurt. That was one of the positives about Hankerson. Royal is a burner, returner who can work the slot with Garcon and Hankerson working the outside and Morgan as the possession guy over the middle.

Plus he has 95 speed in Madden and Madden speed kills.[/QUOTE]

Dude everyone will play w us in madden now

[QUOTE=los panda;898288]it is[/QUOTE]

Figured so

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCuYHz4ozGU&feature=youtube_gdata_player]Pierre Garcon Flies - YouTube[/ame]

Ironically of the 3 players in the video, only Garcon is a sure bet to be a Skin next year.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;898290]Dude everyone will play w us in madden now[/QUOTE]



Like the Eagles this year look at this:

RGIII 91 speed
Helu 93 speed
Garcon 95 speed
Hankerson 92 speed
Royal 95 speed

You talk about explosion, along with Morgan, Davis, and Cooley working the middle as possession guys, offense looks very nice.

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IMO there are bigger needs than Royal... IMO he's just not a [B]top[/B] priority... He (according to reports) had agreed in principle to sign w/ us but hasn't yet because other teams are interested, which is fine, but I have the feeling the FO thought Royal would be the easiest deal to get done, and it wasn't... I'm hoping we don't overpay for him, leaving us with very little money to sign a player of need; i.e. Winston or Flecther

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;898295]Like the Eagles this year look at this:

RGIII 91 speed
Helu 93 speed
Garcon 95 speed
Hankerson 92 speed
Royal 95 speed

You talk about explosion, along with Morgan, Davis, and Cooley working the middle as possession guys, offense looks very nice.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I play w us all the time last year and Carolina, ngl I'm a huge cam fan but anyway we def will be fun too watch

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;898291]Figured so[/QUOTE]



Ironically I had steak for dinner.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;898297]Yeah I play w us all the time last year and Carolina, ngl I'm a huge cam fan but anyway we def will be fun too watch[/QUOTE]



Definitely will be. I'm already seeing RGIII deep down the sideline to Garcon for the TD.

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;898299]Definitely will be. I'm already seeing RGIII deep down the sideline to Garcon for the TD.[/QUOTE]

Hell yeah! Can't wait man or getting away from a sack and taking it 35 yards lol

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^That too. Helu and Royster will benefit as well a la Warrick Dunn and TJ Duckett in Atlanta.

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The more I think about it Mike Wallace is anumber one. Why can't Garcon be a number one?

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;898316]The more I think about it Mike Wallace is anumber one. Why can't Garcon be a number one?[/quote]Well, Mike Wallace is good.

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And Garcon isn't?

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;898319]And Garcon isn't?[/quote]He's...uh, still young!

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So do the Redskins make any moves that you like?

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I like about 34.375% of what the Redskins do.

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Seems more like 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231%

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;898325]Seems more like 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231%[/quote]Well, perhaps they are trending that way.

I don't think it's likely that both of today's signings are Redskins in 2013. I think if one thrives and is the best FA WR we've signed in forever, then the other won't get enough opportunities to justify his salary, and will be gone in a year.

Not that this is a problem at all. Survival of the fittest is a fine approach to weeding out the weaker players at the receiver position. It's just weird that a team would invest more than $7 million cap dollars (a very large amount) at the Z receiver position to replace Armstrong and not get at least one player with a better track record than Armstrong.

Not that I'm complaining about the depth or anything. This team is just weird.

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Both Garcon and Morgan are players that are considered to be on the rise (i.e. not the peak) That's what I like best about these signings.

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And I will love these signings (Even more) once Royal puts pen to paper.

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So does this mean Moss is gone if we sign Royal? I hope not.

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Incredible, each of the 2 (potentially 3) pick ups are all 4.4 (including Hankerson) in the 40!! Finally, Finally, we have a plethora of explosive playmakers at the WR position. Along with RG3 and Helu we have to be the fastest group in the NFL. Greenbay who? I like this deal better than giving a lions share of the precious currency to VJ.