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InsaneBoost 07-13-2012 04:13 PM

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Woooooooooooooooow.

MTK 07-13-2012 04:18 PM

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Drinks are on Brees tonight in the quarter

SmootSmack 07-13-2012 04:44 PM

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Mike Williams cut by the Seahawks.

mooby 07-13-2012 04:56 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;924590]Mike Williams cut by the Seahawks.[/quote]

Did he fall off the gravy train again? I thought his recent resurgence was a good sign.

CultBrennan59 07-13-2012 05:09 PM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/13/preseason-power-rankings-no-27-washington-redskins1042387/]Preseason Power Rankings No. 24: Washington Redskins | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Respectable analysis

[url=http://nfl.si.com/2012/07/13/offseason-breakdown-washington-redskins/?sct=hp_wr_a1&eref=sihp]Offseason Breakdown: Washington Redskins | Audibles[/url]

Giantone 07-13-2012 05:54 PM

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[quote=mooby;924551]Not suprised. Good for him. He deserves it.[/quote]
So does this mean Eli shoud get a raise?

skinsfaninok 07-13-2012 10:34 PM

[QUOTE=Giantone;924603]So does this mean Eli shoud get a raise?[/QUOTE]

I'd ask for one if I was Eli

mooby 07-14-2012 06:48 AM

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[quote=Giantone;924603]So does this mean Eli shoud get a raise?[/quote]

Doesn't Eli already have a 100 million contract? Another Super Bowl win or not, you can only devote so much salary cap space to a qb. From what I understand, Eli is already making elite qb money.

NC_Skins 07-14-2012 10:57 AM

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[quote=Giantone;924603]So does this mean Eli shoud get a raise?[/quote]

Eli isn't close to being the QB that Brees is. That's why SB wins doesn't really show you who's a better player. Shows you who is playing on a better team.

CultBrennan59 07-14-2012 11:28 AM

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[quote=NC_Skins;924642]Eli isn't close to being the QB that Brees is. That's why SB wins doesn't really show you who's a better player. Shows you who is playing on a better team.[/quote]

Very true, but remember this is a QB driven league, and the giants were good because of their QB running their offense. Cruz, Nicks, Bradshaw, Ballard would be nothing if it weren't for Manning. David Carr was their backup. You think that team would still be good with Carr as their starter? I think the Saints with Chase Daniel would still be a good team, similar to the patriots with Cassel. Brees is the 2nd best QB in the league, but to say Eli isn't close to being the QB that Brees is, is not correct. Because people judge players on Super Bowls. Eli has 2. Brees has 1. Keep in mind that Bree's offense is more pass happy where as the Giants is more balanced.

Chico23231 07-14-2012 11:33 AM

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[quote=Giantone;924603]So does this mean Eli shoud get a raise?[/quote]

lol Eli is a solid QB, but not close to the same level as Drew. Not close...lol

Closer comparison is Romo and Eli

skinsfaninok 07-14-2012 11:36 AM

[QUOTE=Chico23231;924645]lol Eli is a solid QB, but not close to the same level as Drew. Not close...lol

Closer comparison is Romo and Eli[/QUOTE]

Call me crazy but I don't think brees is really that far ahead of Eli. He's better yes but you guys make Manning out to be alex Smith or something

Redskin Jim 07-14-2012 12:05 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;924646]Call me crazy but I don't think brees is really that far ahead of Eli. He's better yes but you guys make Manning out to be alex Smith or something[/quote]
Brees is the ONLY QB in history to throw 2 5000 yard seasons. Before last season he was the ONLY other QB in history not named Dan Marino to throw for over 5000 yards. Not Peyton, not Aikman, not Brady (did last year) not Elway.... The only stat that you can argue Eli is close or better is the Superbowl wins.

los panda 07-14-2012 12:34 PM

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[quote=Redskin Jim;924654]Brees is the ONLY QB in history to throw 2 5000 yard seasons. Before last season he was the ONLY other QB in history not named Dan Marino to throw for over 5000 yards. Not Peyton, not Aikman, not Brady (did last year) not Elway.... [B]The only stat that you can argue Eli is close or better is the Superbowl wins[/B].[/quote]the only one that matters. ask marino if he'd trade any of his stats for a ring...

Chico23231 07-14-2012 12:46 PM

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[quote=Redskin Jim;924654]Brees is the ONLY QB in history to throw 2 5000 yard seasons. Before last season he was the ONLY other QB in history not named Dan Marino to throw for over 5000 yards. Not Peyton, not Aikman, not Brady (did last year) not Elway.... The only stat that you can argue Eli is close or better is the Superbowl wins.[/quote]

couldnt said it better. Brees has done it with less talent at the skill positions as well. Eli has been surrounded by excellent talent his whole career, FO has done a great job for him.

Giantone 07-14-2012 05:03 PM

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[quote=mooby;924633]Doesn't Eli already have a 100 million contract? Another Super Bowl win or not, you can only devote so much salary cap space to a qb. From what I understand, Eli is already making elite qb money.[/quote]


It might be close but I don't think so also I thinks he redid a few things to help out with cap space a year or two ago.

Giantone 07-14-2012 05:06 PM

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[url=http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/03/08/reports-giants-restructure-eli-mannings-contract-gain-6-75m-in-cap-space/]Reports: New York Giants Restructure Eli Manning's Contract, Gain $6.75M In Cap Space « CBS New York[/url]


[B]NEW YORK (WFAN) –[/B] Eli Manning led the Giants [URL="http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/02/08/keidel-giant-lessons/"][COLOR=#0066cc]to a Super Bowl title in 2011[/COLOR][/URL]. It appears he’s doing his part off the field to help ensure a repeat run.
Manning has agreed to a complicated restructuring of his contract which will create $6.75 million in cap space for the Giants, according to multiple reports.
$9 million of the quarterback’s $10.75 million salary for 2012 will be guaranteed, the New York Daily News reported.

mooby 07-14-2012 06:14 PM

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[quote=Giantone;924663]It might be close but I don't think so also I thinks he redid a few things to help out with cap space a year or two ago.[/quote]

That's fine and all but he's already getting paid elite qb money. Are you going to restructure his contract every time an elite qb signs a huge deal to ensure he's the highest paid qb? I'm just saying his 100 mil contract is pretty recent, I wouldn't feel pressured to do anything about it until the deal is about to expire.

Alvin Walton 07-14-2012 07:41 PM

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Eli Manning can eat the fuzzies from my buttcrack.

That Guy 07-14-2012 08:58 PM

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eli's pretty good. i don't like him, but that's a seperate thing.

CrustyRedskin 07-14-2012 09:25 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;924668]Eli Manning can eat the fuzzies from my buttcrack.[/quote]

If a Super Bowl trophy was on the line i bet he would do it better than anyone else would!!

los panda 07-15-2012 01:06 PM

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sounds like a smart statement to me
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/15/claiborne-says-hes-going-to-camp-with-or-without-a-contract/]Claiborne says he’s going to camp, with or without a contract | ProFootballTalk[/url]

30gut 07-15-2012 03:36 PM

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Sounds empty to me.
Isn't being at camp kinda dependent upon having a contract?

los panda 07-15-2012 03:42 PM

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[quote=30gut;924719]Sounds empty to me.
Isn't being at camp kinda dependent upon having a contract?[/quote]that's what i thought. what kind of contract does he plan to get if he tears his acl on day 1?

CrustyRedskin 07-15-2012 04:09 PM

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[quote=los panda;924720]that's what i thought. what kind of contract does he plan to get if he tears his acl on day 1?[/quote]

Didnt Claiborne score a -15 on his Wonderlick? Lol

los panda 07-16-2012 12:34 AM

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he's 31, what kind of deal does he expect?
[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a92b1a/article/wes-welker-reportedly-far-from-deal-with-patriots?module=HP11_headline_stack]Wes Welker reportedly far from deal with Patriots - NFL.com[/url]

Ruhskins 07-16-2012 02:27 AM

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[quote=los panda;924753]he's 31, what kind of deal does he expect?
[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a92b1a/article/wes-welker-reportedly-far-from-deal-with-patriots?module=HP11_headline_stack]Wes Welker reportedly far from deal with Patriots - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

I still find it funny that Patriots players think they are going to get paid.

hooskins 07-16-2012 07:33 AM

Eli is a top 5 QB in the league.

REDSKINS4ever 07-16-2012 07:44 AM

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[quote=hooskins;924756]Eli is a top 5 QB in the league.[/quote]

Eli Manning is pretty good. He plays his best when everything is on the line.

SmootSmack 07-16-2012 12:36 PM

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Bears and Matt Forte reportedly about to announce a long-term agreement

Ruhskins 07-16-2012 12:42 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;924804]Bears and Matt Forte reportedly about to announce a long-term agreement[/quote]

8 mil per year according to your nemesis.

mooby 07-16-2012 01:29 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;924805]8 mil per year according to your nemesis.[/quote]

The Schef strikes again! Good for Forte, he deserves it.

MTK 07-16-2012 04:16 PM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/16/ray-rice-gets-long-term-deal-minutes-before-the-deadline/]Ray Rice gets long-term deal minutes before the deadline | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Rice got paid

InsaneBoost 07-16-2012 04:23 PM

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More than Forte is interesting.

mredskins 07-16-2012 06:35 PM

I was hoping rice held out as a small thorn in the ravens side; hopeful reed has a little fit and doesn't come back

SmootSmack 07-16-2012 07:38 PM

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Oh Dez...say it ain't so

CrustyRedskin 07-16-2012 08:02 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;924870]Oh Dez...say it ain't so[/quote]

Social media on fire down here about it!

skinsfaninok 07-16-2012 08:37 PM

[QUOTE=CrustyRedskin;924873]Social media on fire down here about it![/QUOTE]

Lmao I'm so happy Dallas drafted that clown!! Haha

Darrell_Green_28 07-16-2012 08:52 PM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/16/dez-bryant-arrested-on-family-violence-charge/]Dez Bryant arrested on family violence charge | ProFootballTalk[/url]

SmootSmack 07-16-2012 09:08 PM

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Think I heard he wasn't actually arrested though, just detained


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