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[quote=SmootSmack;988990]Bears name Marc Trestman HC, great choice[/quote]

According to Elliot on DC101 Bears fans are freaking out about hiring a CFL coach. I guess we'll see how it works out. And a 4 am press release announcing the hiring? Clearly they are unconcerned with how people are going perceive the news.

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Bears fans should do their research on the guy

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[quote=SmootSmack;988990]Bears name Marc Trestman HC, great choice[/quote]

agree.

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[quote=SmootSmack;988990]Bears name Marc Trestman HC, great choice[/quote]

I saw this on Twitter, labeled as the "new Bears fan base" :)

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAu4WYnCQAAJh53.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=SmootSmack;988990]Bears name Marc Trestman HC, great choice[/quote]

Anyone who wins two Grey Cups and has a distinguished record besides is definitely worth a shot.

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SS .... Doesn't seem to be much interest in Kyle .
Have you heard anything otherwise. Thought he was going to be a hot candidate.
Hope he stays. So I guess this is a good thing.

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[quote=SmootSmack;988993]Bears fans should do their research on the guy[/quote]

Yeah they were naming off his accolades as a QB coach and OC while in the NFL and the guy pretty much produced QB's with great stats that were winners everywhere he went.

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[quote=Lotus;989018]Anyone who wins two Grey Cups and has a distinguished record besides is definitely worth a shot.[/quote]

winning two grey cups is not a particularly impressive accomplishment. There are only 8 teams in the CFL for goodness sake. Other than that, i dont know what accomplishments he has that could be considered "distinguished." He's had alot of NFL position group/OC jobs over the years but none of them are remotely impressive.

From his his wikipedia webpage:

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Trestman#CFL]Marc Trestman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

[quote][B]NFL Draft Training Coach[/B]According to Trestman's website, "Marc has been one of the most trusted and respected QB coaches in the game. Which is why every off-season, the top NFL draft prospects call on Marc to work them out in preparation for the their Pro Day and the NFL Combine".

Some of the QBs who have been trained by Trestman include: Brandon [B]Weeden[/B] (1st round pick by the Cleveland Browns), [B]Brock Osweiler [/B](2nd round pick by the Denver Broncos), [B]Tim Tebow [/B](1st round pick by the Denver Broncos), [B]Jimmy Clausen [/B](2nd round pick by the Carolina Panthers) and [B]Jason Campbell [/B](1st round pick by the Washington Redskins).[/quote]

That list is a joke - I actually laughed out loud at my desk. Trestman takes bad quarterbacks and teaches them a few parlor tricks so they look deceptively good at their pro-days. Then, NFL teams spend high draft picks on these guys and they go on to become colossal busts. Trestman = Snake Oil.

I do agree with your thought that he "deserves a shot" - as opposed to others here who seem to think the Bears made some sort of great hire. Hey, everyone deserves a shot, right? Still, the Bears fired Lovie Smith for this guy, and I view that as a major downgrade.

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[quote=SmootSmack;988990]Bears name Marc Trestman HC, great choice[/quote]

I agree. What his resume was as an OC throughout the NFL, speaks for itself. I think it'll work out great for him, the bears and jay cutler (hopefully Brandon Marshall won't bitch and whine at him like in the past with new HCs)

[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;989030]winning two grey cups is not a particularly impressive accomplishment. There are only 8 teams in the CFL for goodness sake. Other than that, i dont know what accomplishments he has that could be considered "distinguished." He's had alot of NFL position group/OC jobs over the years but none of them are remotely impressive.

From his his wikipedia webpage:

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Trestman#CFL]Marc Trestman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]



That list is a joke - I actually laughed out loud at my desk. Trestman takes bad quarterbacks and teaches them a few parlor tricks so they look deceptively good at their pro-days. Then, NFL teams spend high draft picks on these guys and they go on to become colossal busts. Trestman = Snake Oil.

I do agree with your thought that he "deserves a shot" - as opposed to others here who seem to think the Bears made some sort of great hire. Hey, everyone deserves a shot, right? Still, the Bears fired Lovie Smith for this guy, and I view that as a major downgrade.[/QUOTE]

Yeah idk much about the guy but that list is a terrible example to use lol.. also if he was so great why was he in the CFL?

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;989019]SS .... Doesn't seem to be much interest in Kyle .
Have you heard anything otherwise. Thought he was going to be a hot candidate.
Hope he stays. So I guess this is a good thing.[/quote]

Well I thought Carolina might be an option, but otherwise no haven't heard anything

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You should really do more research on Trestman. You're missing a lot

[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;989030]winning two grey cups is not a particularly impressive accomplishment. There are only 8 teams in the CFL for goodness sake. Other than that, i dont know what accomplishments he has that could be considered "distinguished." He's had alot of NFL position group/OC jobs over the years but none of them are remotely impressive.

From his his wikipedia webpage:

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Trestman#CFL]Marc Trestman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]



That list is a joke - I actually laughed out loud at my desk. Trestman takes bad quarterbacks and teaches them a few parlor tricks so they look deceptively good at their pro-days. Then, NFL teams spend high draft picks on these guys and they go on to become colossal busts. Trestman = Snake Oil.

I do agree with your thought that he "deserves a shot" - as opposed to others here who seem to think the Bears made some sort of great hire. Hey, everyone deserves a shot, right? Still, the Bears fired Lovie Smith for this guy, and I view that as a major downgrade.[/QUOTE]

How about Kosar, Gannon, Plummer, and Scott Mitchell( for his one huge year) ?
Edit: as Arizona OC they went to the playoffs for the first time since 1982, and look at what he did in 2002 with Oakland as their OC. Everywhere the guy goes there is success and offensive records are broken. He won a bowl game with NC State as their OC.
This is a great hire.
Edit: also BHA that list is a list of guys he prepared for the draft. Prepped for the combines. So - the fact that they were pretty much busts as first round picks sort of speaks to his genius. I mean somehow he made them look goid enough for teams to buy in. He was not their coach. Look at the QB's he coached. Seems to me that when he is around a qb they shine. Whether for the combine or for the season.

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Cowboys ST coach Joe DeCamillis taking same position with Bears whose ST coach left for same position with Chiefs

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;989030]winning two grey cups is not a particularly impressive accomplishment. There are only 8 teams in the CFL for goodness sake. Other than that, i dont know what accomplishments he has that could be considered "distinguished." He's had alot of NFL position group/OC jobs over the years but none of them are remotely impressive.

From his his wikipedia webpage:

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Trestman#CFL]Marc Trestman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]



That list is a joke - I actually laughed out loud at my desk. Trestman takes bad quarterbacks and teaches them a few parlor tricks so they look deceptively good at their pro-days. Then, NFL teams spend high draft picks on these guys and they go on to become colossal busts. Trestman = Snake Oil.

I do agree with your thought that he "deserves a shot" - as opposed to others here who seem to think the Bears made some sort of great hire. Hey, everyone deserves a shot, right? Still, the Bears fired Lovie Smith for this guy, and I view that as a major downgrade.[/quote]

Actually winning two Grey Cups is quite meaningful. Lots of people are good OC's and QB coaches but cannot make the leap to head coach. Trestman has a track record of successfully making that leap.

We should expect the Bears to lead the NFL in rouges.

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[quote=SmootSmack;989036]You should really do more research on Trestman. You're missing a lot[/quote]

If its not on wikipedia, it didnt happen.

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[quote=punch it in;989040]How about Kosar, Gannon, Plummer, and Scott Mitchell( for his one huge year) ?
Edit: as Arizona OC they went to the playoffs for the first time since 1982, and look at what he did in 2002 with Oakland as their OC. Everywhere the guy goes there is success and offensive records are broken. He won a bowl game with NC State as their OC.
This is a great hire.
Edit: also BHA that list is a list of guys he prepared for the draft. Prepped for the combines. [B]So - the fact that they were pretty much busts as first round picks sort of speaks to his genius.[/B] I mean somehow he made them look goid enough for teams to buy in. He was not their coach. Look at the QB's he coached. Seems to me that when he is around a qb they shine. Whether for the combine or for the season.[/quote]

If you mean hes a genius at being a charlatan, youre right. None of the QBs you mentioned are particularly impressive either, but thats just me. Saying everywhere he goes is a success is also ridiculous.... winning a college bowl game - lol... if thats an important accomplishment, then that would make about 500 guys out there qualified to be head coaches in your opinion.

[quote=Lotus;989044][B]Actually winning two Grey Cups is quite meaningful. [/B]Lots of people are good OC's and QB coaches but cannot make the leap to head coach. Trestman has a track record of successfully making that leap.

We should expect the Bears to lead the NFL in rouges.[/quote]
He has a 1 in 8 chance of winning every year. Jim Zorn would probably win it a few times, too. The fact that he's done so twice is not remotely meaningful in the context of being an NFL head coach. Thanks to Lovie Smith, the Bears are already a great football team.

I expect them to start out fairly hot, just like Zorn did when taking over for Gibbs. Within a year or two, the Lovie-effect will wear off, the Bears will decline, and Trestman will be out.

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Aaron Kromer is headed to Chicago to be the OC. Won't matter because the Bears are about to go 0-16 apparently

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[quote=SmootSmack;989050]Aaron Kromer is headed to Chicago to be the OC. Won't matter because the Bears are about to go 0-16 apparently[/quote]

I know you werent replying to me, but I wanted to say that I dont think so. As i said, they are a very talented team. Trestman will coast off of Lovies success for a while. I definitely see them as a 7-9 to 9-7 team in 2013, afterwhich theyll decline until Trestmans fired. I really wish the Eagles had hired him.

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Even though Marshall Lynch's season is over, I see several still feel the need to go Beast Mode

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I think Trestman is one of the better offensive minds pro football has seen in the last three decades. It's a shame he's never got his opportunity to be a HC. I'm rooting for him big time.

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Whoa Mort saying that Chip Kelly has accepted the Eagles HC job

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[quote=SmootSmack;989057]Whoa Mort saying that Chip Kelly has accepted the Eagles HC job[/quote]
[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8849699/chip-kelly-bolts-oregon-ducks-coach-philadelphia-eagles-sources]Chip Kelly bolts Oregon Ducks to coach Philadelphia Eagles -- sources - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;989041]Cowboys ST coach Joe DeCamillis taking same position with Bears whose ST coach left for same position with Chiefs[/quote]
That's not a certainty. In order for DeCamillis to take the same position with another club, he has to be released from his current contract.

If the Bears offered him the title of Asst Head Coach, which is a step up, than he can leave without being released from his current contract.

Although I have no heartache with him leaving.

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[quote=mredskins;989058][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8849699/chip-kelly-bolts-oregon-ducks-coach-philadelphia-eagles-sources]Chip Kelly bolts Oregon Ducks to coach Philadelphia Eagles -- sources - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Ugh. Not sure how i feel about him, but i'm somewhat worried

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[quote=SmootSmack;989057]Whoa Mort saying that Chip Kelly has accepted the Eagles HC job[/quote]



Dooooo wuttt???


Probably pulling a Pete Carroll. Get out before the sanctions hit.

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NFL network breaking news Kelly to eagles

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[quote=sandtrapjack;989059]That's not a certainty. In order for DeCamillis to take the same position with another club, he has to be released from his current contract.

If the Bears offered him the title of Asst Head Coach, which is a step up, than he can leave without being released from his current contract.

Although I have no heartache with him leaving.[/quote]

He is getting the title

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Kelly to the Eagles is interesting.. Should be interesting to see how his tempo plays at the NFL level. Also I'm a bit wary of the flip-flop nature of his last 3 weeks. Pettrino 2.0?

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[quote=Paintrain;989067]Kelly to the Eagles is interesting.. Should be interesting to see how his tempo plays at the NFL level. Also I'm a bit wary of the flip-flop nature of his last 3 weeks. [B]Pettrino 2.0[/B]?[/quote]

I can only hope so.

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I think ultimately he was just trying to get more $ from the Eagles.

He flirted with the NFL to get more money from Oregon. Oregon gave him more money to stay, and then he used that to go back to the NFL to get even more $. Pretty douche-baggy, but very business savvy.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;989071]I think ultimately he was just trying to get more $ from the Eagles.

He flirted with the NFL to get more money from Oregon. Oregon gave him more money to stay, and then he used that to go back to the NFL to get even more $. Pretty douche-baggy, but very business savvy.[/quote]

Being prob the most sought after coach gives you that luxury. Don't see any douchebaggery in that.

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The Eagles have some speed but for some reason visions of Steve Spurrier keep popping up in my mind.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;989059]That's not a certainty. In order for DeCamillis to take the same position with another club, he has to be released from his current contract.

If the Bears offered him the title of Asst Head Coach, which is a step up, than he can leave without being released from his current contract.

Although I have no heartache with him leaving.[/quote]

So you come back when we get knocked out of the playoffs. Figured you would have come here after the Dallas game and congratulated use on winning the div. Yea, right.

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this chip kelly news is great. looks like we sweeping next year

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[quote=firstdown;989074]The Eagles have some speed but for some reason visions of Steve Spurrier keep popping up in my mind.[/quote]

Yup. I was thinking the same thing. Unlike Petrino and Saban, the guy has zero NFL coaching experience. Not that this dooms him but, IMHO, it makes him less likely to succeed - it certainly makes the task of adapting harder for him.

I, for one, am VERY glad the Eagles went C. Kelly and the Bears M. Trestman rather than the other way around. I think, given his history and the glowing reports most insiders (including ex-coaches) give him, Trestman is going to be a very good hire.

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[quote=Ruhskins;989072]Being prob the most sought after coach gives you that luxury. Don't see any douchebaggery in that.[/quote]

Just because you have luxury to do something, doesn't mean it's the best "moral" choice. It was a wise strategic move, but "inconsiderate" to the eagles and ducks. That was my only point.

If Kelly can get a system QB, I think the Eagles could be scary. Considering the way offenses are evolving, he could have success. After watching what happened to my school's defense, Kelly will own Monte Kiffin in Dallas twice a year.

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[quote=itvnetop;989094]If Kelly can get a system QB, I think the Eagles could be scary. Considering the way offenses are evolving, he could have success. After watching what happened to my school's defense, Kelly will own Monte Kiffin in Dallas twice a year.[/quote]were you there between rob johnson and carson palmer?

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they had some great qbs in that era, household names, really:

brad otton
kyle wachholtz
john fox
mike van raaphorst