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[quote=The Goat;990432]No doubt. What are the best five run franchises in pro football in your estimation?

Edit: Doesn't have to be in a particular order because who could say, but generally which five are best run today?[/quote]

Tough to say. Clearly the best organizations are usually the ones that win. Do they win because they're run so well or are they run so well because they win?

And I'm talking about organizations that people take pride in working for, not just collecting a paycheck. Also, organizations that treat people in my profession with respect.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;990442]People dont hate the patriots because theyve won so much. They hate them because their head coach is an arrogant douche.

And Ray Lewis is a murderer, or at minimum, an accessory after the fact. Its always bothered me he just moved on from that situation and no one ever brings it up. If the fact that the white suit he was wearing that night went "missing" and could not be provided to authorities doesnt raise your suspsicions, then the fact that the paid settlements to the victim's families should. He was [I]somehow [/I]involved in two murders. Why no one seems to care about it is beyond me.[/quote]

I think people don't care because Ray Lewis comes across as a good guy. If he was a Suh type people would never stop talking about that ish.

I feel like people think it's a, "good guy, right place, wrong time", kind of situation.

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People need to seperate a players "personal life" from his play on the field.I don't like Ray Lewis for alot of what has already been talked about but his play on the field during his career has been spectacular.
Tom Brady ,maybe he is an ass,I don't know him but their isn't a soul out there that would'nt want to be him
Bill Belichick,like him don't like him,is one of the top coachs in NFL history,maybe even the best and has the rings to prove it.

I wasnt there BHA. I dont know. Could have been in the wrong place at the wrong time. Could have panicked when it went down and dished the suit because it had blood on it because he was trying to defuse the situation? I dont know? I know he waa found to be innocent and ill have to believe it was because someone knew the facts better than me or you or people who are rubbed the wrong way by his sermons or speeches or sack dances.
Some people think Shanny is an arrogant prick too btw. Im nobodys judge or jury and if you win championships you deserve credit. Im not interested on how much fun BB would be to hang out with because i dont even know him. Lol.

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Did someone say a Dallas Cowboy was arrested today for DWI?

Why yes, yes I did.

Smooth move, Mr. Ratliff

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;990467]Did someone say a Dallas Cowboy was arrested today for DWI?

Why yes, yes I did.

Smooth move, Mr. Ratliff[/QUOTE]

That's really amazing considering he just lost a teammate in an accident barely a month ago. Tragic actually.

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He hit an 18 wheeler with his pickup truck. I don't know much more than that, but you don't usually win against an 18 wheeler. That no one got hurt is nothing short of miracle it would seem

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[quote=SmootSmack;990467]Did someone say a Dallas Cowboy was arrested today for DWI?

Why yes, yes I did.

Smooth move, Mr. Ratliff[/quote]

Unbelievable!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;990468]That's really amazing considering he just lost a teammate in an accident barely a month ago. Tragic actually.[/quote]

Some people don't learn

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[url=http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/8870962/jay-ratliff-dallas-cowboys-arrested-charged-dwi]Jay Ratliff of Dallas Cowboys arrested, charged with DWI - ESPN Dallas[/url]

Close friends with Brent. just amazing

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[quote=Chico23231;990388]Last year it was Brady's wife complaining about a catch, this year its Welker's wife taken a cheap shot. Belicheat not doing interviews. When the Giants won the the first time Belicheat and Brady ran off the field without congratulating the Eli and Coach Coughlin...They get caught cheating, AND lets not down play that fact. It was cheating to the highest degree. They play a finesse style.

Im tired of the Pats and their whole organization and attitude. They act like a bunch of whiny pussies which mirrors their style of play.

Say what you want of Ray Ray, he's not a little whiny pussy like the Pats and their players.[/quote]


I think this about covers it.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;990442]People dont hate the patriots because theyve won so much. They hate them because their head coach is an arrogant douche.

And Ray Lewis is a murderer, or at minimum, an accessory after the fact. Its always bothered me he just moved on from that situation and no one ever brings it up. If the fact that the white suit he was wearing that night went "missing" and could not be provided to authorities doesnt raise your suspsicions, then the fact that the paid settlements to the victim's families should. He was [I]somehow [/I]involved in two murders. Why no one seems to care about it is beyond me.[/quote]

Well there are actually two people that have been in the NFL that actually were found guilty of killing someone, yet got away with minimal punishment and no one cared about it.

I really don't care much about Ray Lewis or the Ravens, but I think people are being all judgmental not because what Ray did was bad (hence me showing other worst things done by current/former NFL players), but because he is Ray Lewis.

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[quote=Ruhskins;990483]Well there are actually two people that have been in the NFL that actually were found guilty of killing someone, yet got away with minimal punishment and no one cared about it.

I really don't care much about Ray Lewis or the Ravens, but I think people are being all judgmental not because what Ray did was bad (hence me showing other worst things done by current/former NFL players), but because he is Ray Lewis.[/quote]True, but those two other players didn't appear on the cover of SI looking like this a few years after those deaths:
[IMG]http://baltimoresportsreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/raylewisSI.jpeg[/IMG]

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It warms my heart to see such discipline in Dallas. Luckily a lack of discipline has never undone the Cowboys before.

Yeah it's always good to see Dallas have problems

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[quote=Giantone;990447] Bill Belichick,like him don't like him,is one of the top coachs in NFL history,maybe even the best and has the rings to prove it.[/quote]

Gibbs was/is better than Belichick. 3 SB w/ 3 QB's, 2 of them being average in talent. Could Belichick have won his SB's without Brady?

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We could really rebuild our secondary with draft picks gained from trading RGIII and Cousins.

Then we can sign this guy to be our QB:
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/nfl-draft-bust-jamarcus-russell-attempting-nfl-comeback-043914730--nfl.html;_ylt=Au.hCWSBn3JTbeGtdKzZ7_9DubYF;_ylu=X3oDMTN1ZmVib29mBG1pdANGRUFUVVJFRCBNZWdhdHJvbiBORkwEcGtnA2I3OTdhZWM2LWZkMTAtM2MzNS04MWNlLTkxZTFmNDAxMGE3ZQRwb3MDNQRzZWMDbWVnYXRyb24EdmVyAzk3ZWMyOWYzLTY1MWQtMTFlMi1hM2ZmLTAyNmYxMjRlMmJiZA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFoZHY1MWJpBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuZmwEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3]NFL draft bust JaMarcus Russell is attempting a comeback | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

WIN

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[quote=Lotus;990514]We could really rebuild our secondary with draft picks gained from trading RGIII and Cousins.

Then we can sign this guy to be our QB:
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/nfl-draft-bust-jamarcus-russell-attempting-nfl-comeback-043914730--nfl.html;_ylt=Au.hCWSBn3JTbeGtdKzZ7_9DubYF;_ylu=X3oDMTN1ZmVib29mBG1pdANGRUFUVVJFRCBNZWdhdHJvbiBORkwEcGtnA2I3OTdhZWM2LWZkMTAtM2MzNS04MWNlLTkxZTFmNDAxMGE3ZQRwb3MDNQRzZWMDbWVnYXRyb24EdmVyAzk3ZWMyOWYzLTY1MWQtMTFlMi1hM2ZmLTAyNmYxMjRlMmJiZA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFoZHY1MWJpBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuZmwEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3]NFL draft bust JaMarcus Russell is attempting a comeback | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

WIN[/quote]



Must be broke already.

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[quote=Lotus;990514]We could really rebuild our secondary with draft picks gained from trading RGIII and Cousins.

Then we can sign this guy to be our QB:
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/nfl-draft-bust-jamarcus-russell-attempting-nfl-comeback-043914730--nfl.html;_ylt=Au.hCWSBn3JTbeGtdKzZ7_9DubYF;_ylu=X3oDMTN1ZmVib29mBG1pdANGRUFUVVJFRCBNZWdhdHJvbiBORkwEcGtnA2I3OTdhZWM2LWZkMTAtM2MzNS04MWNlLTkxZTFmNDAxMGE3ZQRwb3MDNQRzZWMDbWVnYXRyb24EdmVyAzk3ZWMyOWYzLTY1MWQtMTFlMi1hM2ZmLTAyNmYxMjRlMmJiZA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFoZHY1MWJpBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuZmwEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3]NFL draft bust JaMarcus Russell is attempting a comeback | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

WIN[/quote]

now certainly is the time to comeback. Several teams are going to be willing to try anything, and with his physical attributes if he sells that he "really wants it this time" I would be shocked if someone didn't give him a training camp shot.

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[quote=Lotus;990514]We could really rebuild our secondary with draft picks gained from trading RGIII and Cousins.

Then we can sign this guy to be our QB:
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/nfl-draft-bust-jamarcus-russell-attempting-nfl-comeback-043914730--nfl.html;_ylt=Au.hCWSBn3JTbeGtdKzZ7_9DubYF;_ylu=X3oDMTN1ZmVib29mBG1pdANGRUFUVVJFRCBNZWdhdHJvbiBORkwEcGtnA2I3OTdhZWM2LWZkMTAtM2MzNS04MWNlLTkxZTFmNDAxMGE3ZQRwb3MDNQRzZWMDbWVnYXRyb24EdmVyAzk3ZWMyOWYzLTY1MWQtMTFlMi1hM2ZmLTAyNmYxMjRlMmJiZA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFoZHY1MWJpBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuZmwEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3]NFL draft bust JaMarcus Russell is attempting a comeback | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

WIN[/quote]


He is a great player, get over it!

[url=http://www.hark.com/clips/skfsrdxyfb-get-over-it]Get Over It Sound Clip and Quote - Hark[/url]

Man I miss Al

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[quote=Lotus;990514]We could really rebuild our secondary with draft picks gained from trading RGIII and Cousins.

Then we can sign this guy to be our QB:
[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/nfl-draft-bust-jamarcus-russell-attempting-nfl-comeback-043914730--nfl.html;_ylt=Au.hCWSBn3JTbeGtdKzZ7_9DubYF;_ylu=X3oDMTN1ZmVib29mBG1pdANGRUFUVVJFRCBNZWdhdHJvbiBORkwEcGtnA2I3OTdhZWM2LWZkMTAtM2MzNS04MWNlLTkxZTFmNDAxMGE3ZQRwb3MDNQRzZWMDbWVnYXRyb24EdmVyAzk3ZWMyOWYzLTY1MWQtMTFlMi1hM2ZmLTAyNmYxMjRlMmJiZA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFoZHY1MWJpBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuZmwEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3"]NFL draft bust JaMarcus Russell is attempting a comeback | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/URL]

WIN[/quote]

JM is jus not NFL material. He can't even keep his weight in check. 300+ pounds is just ridiculous.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;990519]now certainly is the time to comeback. Several teams are going to be willing to try anything, and with his physical attributes if he sells that he "really wants it this time" I would be shocked if someone didn't give him a training camp shot.[/quote]

If you listen to Adam Schefter on the podcast (found on the right in that article), he mentions that dude is still over 300+ lbs. Yeah, he really wants it alright.

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[quote=NC_Skins;990524]If you listen to Adam Schefter on the podcast (found on the right in that article), he mentions that dude is still over 300+ lbs. Yeah, he really wants it alright.[/quote]

I read in Lotus' article he is at 307, from 320. Who knows if he wants it, but his quote acknowledges that he didn't want it when he left, and slowly the desire is back inside him. I kinda think of the Buffalo guard we brought in. It took a lot of discipline for him to get back to a playing weight, but he did. If Russell wants to go through all that, some team will give him a shot at it. Dead straight that if I had his original contract, and got shoved out of the league(I know it was his own fault that he's out of the league), I wouldn't even look back. But then I never have had the drive that makes up every professional athlete.

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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/rzeOEYe.png[/IMG]


This was on the NFL's website, wonder why they pulled it? Dear god if they shame their golden boy Tom.



[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/the-shame-report/0ap2000000129841/The-Shame-Report-Championship-Sunday]The Shame Report: Championship Sunday - NFL Videos[/url]

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That slide was really a dumb move, and Brady easily could have had the same type collision Griffin had, or possibly worse. If he did it with any purposeful intent than that is even more boneheaded.

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;990506]Gibbs was/is better than Belichick. 3 SB w/ 3 QB's, 2 of them being average in talent. Could Belichick have won his SB's without Brady?[/QUOTE]

In all fairness its not ONLY about a qb. Gibbs had hall of famers all over the field. Riggo, Grimm, monk, green. Plus the rest of the hogs - a couple of which could be hof'ers. Gary Clarke, Mosely. Could Gibbs have won his superbowls without Bobby Beathard would be a fair question too. they are both great coaches.

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[quote=punch it in;990542]In all fairness its not ONLY about a qb. Gibbs had hall of famers all over the field. Riggo, Grimm, monk, green. Plus the rest of the hogs - a couple of which could be hof'ers. Gary Clarke, Mosely. Could Gibbs have won his superbowls without Bobby Beathard would be a fair question too. they are both great coaches.[/quote]

NE will have their share of HOF, the same can be said about Pioli.

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;990564]NE will have their share of HOF, the same can be said about Pioli.[/QUOTE]

Agreed to a point, IMO Beathard was the best GM of all time. I know your not a big niners fan ( to say the least- lol) but do you know who their gm was during the 80's ? Seems like they had as much if not more great talent through free agency and the draft as the Skins did.

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This may have already been posted but i dint see it.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/washington-redskins-were-targeted-imposter-using-fake-female-181105506--nfl.html]Washington Redskins were also targeted by an imposter using a fake female identity online | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;990587]This may have already been posted but i dint see it.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/washington-redskins-were-targeted-imposter-using-fake-female-181105506--nfl.html]Washington Redskins were also targeted by an imposter using a fake female identity online | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url][/quote]

It was posted in the Manti Te'o thread. :D

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4705101/jay-ratliffs-40-million-contract-extension-keeps-looking-worse]Jay Ratliff's $40 million contract keeps looking worse - Dallas Cowboys Blog - ESPN Dallas[/url]


Love some Jerry Jones.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;990587]This may have already been posted but i dint see it.

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/washington-redskins-were-targeted-imposter-using-fake-female-181105506--nfl.html"]Washington Redskins were also targeted by an imposter using a fake female identity online | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/URL][/quote]

I thought CJ Miles was an NBA player.

Boy was I wrong.

Champ playing is his 12 th pro bowl. NFL record

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[quote=skinsfaninok;990624]Champ playing is his 12 th pro bowl. NFL record[/quote]
Didn't Ray Lewis also have 12?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;990506]Gibbs was/is better than Belichick. 3 SB w/ 3 QB's, 2 of them being average in talent. Could Belichick have won his SB's without Brady?[/quote]

BB not only had one of the best QB in the league, but a QB that has been protected by the league (Tuck Rule/Brady Rule/Favoritism). Also, Gibbs had all his success without having to be the biggest prick in the league like Belichick.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;990486]True, but those two other players didn't appear on the cover of SI looking like this a few years after those deaths:
[/quote]

I don't know how this cover changes the fact that actually killing a person is still worst than being connected or accused of being an accessory to a murder. I am not trying to defend Ray Lewis and I think what he did was terrible. I just think it is a big naive to harp on what happened, when NFL players have done worst and gotten away with it.

Hell, even Michael Vick went through more backlash for what he did, than what L. Little and Stallworth did.

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[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/23/junior-seau-family-sues-nfl-brain-injuries-lawsuit_n_2534970.html?ref=topbar]Junior Seau's Family Sues NFL Over Brain Injuries[/url]
"Helmet manufacturer Riddell Inc., also is being sued by the Seaus, who say Riddell was "negligent in their design, testing, assembly, manufacture, marketing, and engineering of the helmets" used by NFL players. The suit says the helmets were unreasonably dangerous and unsafe."

Personally, I don't agree with them being able to sue either the NFL or Riddell. I believe the family is just as much at fault because they must have seen some of the effects while he was still playing and they know him well enough to have seen the subtleties that come with brain trauma (concussion) ect... But did nothing while the good life was "good".

Sorry if that comes off harsh but its just my opinion.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;990624]Champ playing is his 12 th pro bowl. NFL record[/quote]

He looked bad in the playoffs. Wonder if his elite status is waning.

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Champ hasn't been "elite" in years.

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Dude's old. He should probably consider hanging it up.