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[quote=Skinzman;1006173]Doesnt the same apply to Rambo or Williams?

Last I checked, everyone picked after 99 is, in fact, picked after 99...[/quote]

There you go. Lol

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I've been trying hard to like his game tapes, scouting reports, highlights and I just can't. That said, I can agree we should draft a FS in the 4th

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[quote=SirLK26;1006157]Whoever gets Phillip Thomas is one lucky team. With him and Amerson, our secondary would go from one of the worst to the best. Not hating on Rambo, Williams, or Shamarko, but I definitely want Thomas.[/quote]

I definitely concur. Phillip Thomas is not overrated. He can cover, blitz, create turnovers, and play either safety position. I'd be happy with Duke Williams or J.J. Wilcox too.

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[YT]LJK9Gl8bqFc[/YT]

this is why I didn't want Amerson (also see Clemson game). He bites on pump fakes so hard is ridiculous.

[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;1006177]I definitely concur. Phillip Thomas is not overrated. He can cover, blitz, create turnovers, and play either safety position. I'd be happy with Duke Williams or J.J. Wilcox too.[/QUOTE]

It will be tough to get Wilcox.

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So lets see we still have

RB:

Joseph Randle
Andre Ellington
Marcus Lattimore
Johnathan Franklin

WR:
Quinton Patton
Josh Boyce
Ryan Swope
Da'Rick Rogers
Kenny Stills
Connor Vernon

OL
Barrett Jones
Oday Aboushi
Brian Schwenke
Reid Fragel
Earl Watford
Jordan Mills

DL
Jesse Williams
Devin Taylor
William Gholston

OLB
Alex Okafor
Brandon Jenkins
Quanterus Smith
John Simon
LeVarr Edwards
Cornelius Washington
Chase Thomas

ILB
Kevin Riddick
Sean Porter
Khaseem Greene
Nico Johnson
AJ Klein

CB
Poyer
BW Webb
Tharold Simon
Sanders Commings
Brandon McGee
Nickell Robey

S
Phillip Thomas
Bacarri Rambo
Shamarko Thomas
Duke Williams
Robert Lester
Cooper Taylor
Ray Ray Armstrong

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i wouldn't be shocked to see us get a safety in the 4th...

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1006181]So lets see we still have

RB:

Joseph Randle
Andre Ellington
Marcus Lattimore
Johnathan Franklin

WR:
Quinton Patton
Josh Boyce
Ryan Swope
Da'Rick Rogers
Kenny Stills
Connor Vernon

OL
Barrett Jones
Oday Aboushi
Brian Schwenke
Reid Fragel
Earl Watford
Jordan Mills

DL
Jesse Williams
Devin Taylor
William Gholston

OLB
Alex Okafor
Brandon Jenkins
Quanterus Smith
John Simon
LeVarr Edwards
Cornelius Washington
Chase Thomas

ILB
Kevin Riddick
Sean Porter
Khaseem Greene
Nico Johnson
AJ Klein

CB
Poyer
BW Webb
Tharold Simon
Sanders Commings
Brandon McGee
Nickell Robey

S
Phillip Thomas
Bacarri Rambo
Shamarko Thomas
Duke Williams
Robert Lester
Cooper Taylor
Ray Ray Armstrong[/quote]
Thanks. Skins may have to trade up into the fourth and pick two guys.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1006179][YT]LJK9Gl8bqFc[/YT]

this is why I didn't want Amerson (also see Clemson game). He bites on pump fakes so hard is ridiculous.[/quote]

We can only hope that his confidence isn't shattered from those two games. I wanna know if he has great short area (shuttle) speed to recover. Coach him up Raheem.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1006179][YT]LJK9Gl8bqFc[/YT]

this is why I didn't want Amerson (also see Clemson game). He bites on pump fakes so hard is ridiculous.[/quote]

He did get beat pretty bad on one throw. He also looked like he expected help over the middle on another and didn't get it. Other than that, he looked like a corner who is willing to get in there and hit. If that is his worst game and I have to compare that with 18 interceptions in two years, I am not that worried.

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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XZmGNOyT8w]Ultimate David Amerson Highlights | HD - YouTube[/url]

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If he didn't get beat on those pump fakes and bite hard on those, he would have been a 1st rounder and we wouldn't have gotten him. That's a maturity, coaching, and discipline issue. That can be coached, size and speed cannot.

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Anybody think we will draft a 3rd qb in the 7th or pick one up as a UDFA? I know we have plenty of qbs on the roster, but there are some really good candidates still available and should be later on. Rex is not long for the team, and neither is Pat White. Drafting a good QB who we could groom behind Kirk in case we eventually trade Kirk away might be something so consider.

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[quote=Schneed10;1006188]If he didn't get beat on those pump fakes and bite hard on those, he would have been a 1st rounder and we wouldn't have gotten him. That's a maturity, coaching, and discipline issue. That can be coached, size and speed cannot.[/quote]

Good point Schneed, Guys let's give him a chance!

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1006189]Anybody think we will draft a 3rd qb in the 7th or pick one up as a UDFA? I know we have plenty of qbs on the roster, but there are some really good candidates still available and should be later on. Rex is not long for the team, and neither is Pat White. Drafting a good QB who we could groom behind Kirk in case we eventually trade Kirk away might be something so consider.[/quote]

I'm with you. There is value there but, the team still has needs elsewhere. I'm against having to ditch the read option plays when Cousins plays (yes he can run those plays but not as effective). There's no need to spend a pick on a QB though. Tebow will be available for peanuts soon...

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[quote=RGIII;1006191]I'm with you. There is value there but, the team still has needs elsewhere. I'm against having to ditch the read option plays when Cousins plays (yes he can run those plays but not as effective). There's no need to spend a pick on a QB though. Tebow will be available for peanuts soon...[/quote]

I am sure he will go earlier than the 7th, but I think Matt Scott would be an interesting 3rd.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1006181]So lets see we still have

RB:

Joseph Randle
Andre Ellington
Marcus Lattimore
Johnathan Franklin

WR:
Quinton Patton
Josh Boyce
Ryan Swope
Da'Rick Rogers
Kenny Stills
Connor Vernon

OL
Barrett Jones
Oday Aboushi
Brian Schwenke
Reid Fragel
Earl Watford
Jordan Mills

DL
Jesse Williams
Devin Taylor
William Gholston

OLB
Alex Okafor
Brandon Jenkins
Quanterus Smith
John Simon
LeVarr Edwards
Cornelius Washington
Chase Thomas

ILB
Kevin Riddick
Sean Porter
Khaseem Greene
Nico Johnson
AJ Klein

CB
Poyer
BW Webb
Tharold Simon
Sanders Commings
Brandon McGee
Nickell Robey

S
Phillip Thomas
Bacarri Rambo
Shamarko Thomas
Duke Williams
Robert Lester
Cooper Taylor
Ray Ray Armstrong[/quote]

Good list, but you left out who we might have our eyes on David Bakhtiari OT

Thanks for the update...surprised guys like BW Webb, Poyer, Q. Patton, Barrett Jones and Lattimore are still on the board.

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I LOVE THE AMERSON PICK!
I LOVE THE REED PICK!

I'm giving the Skins a B+ grade so far.

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[quote=Schneed10;1006188]If he didn't get beat on those pump fakes and bite hard on those, he would have been a 1st rounder and we wouldn't have gotten him. That's a maturity, coaching, and discipline issue. That can be coached, size and speed cannot.[/quote]

Exactly

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[quote=RGIII;1006208]I LOVE THE AMERSON PICK!
I LOVE THE REED PICK!

I'm giving the Skins a B+ grade so far.[/quote]Amerson has size and speed. He could be a steal coming off of a subpar year.

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[quote=SouperMeister;1006213]Amerson has size and speed. He could be a steal coming off of a subpar year.[/quote]
Not only can he be a steal, he has ball skills that guys like Hayden/Milliner can only dream of.

ELITE play making ability. He could be a young DHall very early.

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[quote=RGIII;1006208]I LOVE THE AMERSON PICK!
I LOVE THE REED PICK!

I'm giving the Skins a B+ grade so far.[/quote]

Amazing what a good night of sleep will do for you huh?

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[quote=Schneed10;1006188]If he didn't get beat on those pump fakes and bite hard on those, he would have been a 1st rounder and we wouldn't have gotten him. That's a maturity, coaching, and discipline issue. That can be coached, size and speed cannot.[/quote]
This.

I honestly don't get it. We just picked the ultimate upside guy who worst case scenario locks down the free safety position. No reason for criticism here, let's let Morris work with him first.

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Let's just hope they both make the starting lineup. If they do they were good picks. If they don't then the picks should have been someone else. It would be nice to see Fred Davis and Reed lineup on both sides and create havoc on the opposing defense.

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[quote=Sonny9TD;1006240][B][U][I]Let's just hope they both make the starting lineup. If they do they were good picks. If they don't then the picks should have been someone else.[/I][/U][/B] It would be nice to see Fred Davis and Reed lineup on both sides and create havoc on the opposing defense.[/quote]
Good call

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[quote=IrMitchell;1006241]Good call[/quote]

Thanks my brother.

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Look for the Skins to pick up a RB with speed and catching ability. It's almost a lock.

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I'm kinda hoping we go safety in the 4th, and try and steal a reciever ala Josh Boyce and a quick running back like Lattimore in the 5th

Edit:
Nevermind Josh Boyce is picked

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[quote=SouperMeister;1006213]Amerson has size and speed. He could be a steal coming off of a subpar year.[/quote]

Also gotta love that we have a CB "prospect" with size and wingspan now. Given the ever larger WRs in the league, guys like Hall and Wilson just can't match up with a lot of #1 WRs. Hopefully with coaching Amerson becomes our #1 CB by 2014.

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[quote=IrMitchell;1006219]This.

I honestly don't get it. We just picked the ultimate upside guy who worst case scenario locks down the free safety position. No reason for criticism here, let's let Morris work with him first.[/quote]

Agree 100%. I think he can start at corner but if not...I think he'll make one hell of a FS.

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[quote=53Fan;1006331]Agree 100%. I think he can start at corner but if not...I think he'll make one hell of a FS.[/quote]


Amerson will play CB and Thomas is our FS. Two starters in the secondary. Great picks and with great coaching can be feared by the opposing teams.