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[quote=Lotus;1017412]We could use DL help and Al Haynesworth is free. We should offer him $41 mil.[/quote]

I saw Fat Albert in a diner just outside of Ft. Lauderdale 2 weeks ago... He'd fail the conditioning test, badly.

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[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2013/aug/1/redskins-training-camp-observations-thu-aug-1/]Redskins training camp observations - Thu., Aug. 1 - Washington Times[/url]

Phillip Thomas getting first team reps is great to see.

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[quote=Paintrain;1017508]I saw Fat Albert in a diner just outside of Ft. Lauderdale 2 weeks ago... He'd fail the conditioning test, badly.[/quote]

His lazy ass failed it when he was "in shape". I think he's just dumb. He thought Shanny said "in A shape". Giant and round is a shape.

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I'm ready to see some Skins in a game. Already tired of reading reports about drills and stuff. Really stoked to get a look at our rooks since I think their ability to help us is a huge key for the year.

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"Yes, Rex’s zone-read keepers are my favorite part of this camp."

Can't get better......

Anyone at camp today? If so, pm me or CRR. We are here.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1017547]Anyone at camp today? If so, pm me or CRR. We are here.[/quote]

I expect pictures!

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Yes, pictures and observations are required.

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[quote=Hog1;1017546]"Yes, Rex’s zone-read keepers are my favorite part of this camp."

Can't get better......[/quote]

Rexy running the option has to be a sight to see.

Must be the slowest developing play in the history of football.

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After winning the starting spot from RGIII, Rex will run for 2,200 yards this year and break Dickerson's record.

So, morning run through done. Was watching offense. Not much to say. RGIII ran one series and watched the rest. Capt. Kirk got most of the reps.

[QUOTE=Lotus;1017555]After winning the starting spot from RGIII, Rex will run for 2,200 yards this year and break Dickerson's record.[/QUOTE]

The season will have to finish in august then :D

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1017553]Rexy running the option has to be a sight to see.

Must be the slowest developing play in the history of football.[/QUOTE]

The glacier option?

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[quote=Paintrain;1017508]I saw Fat Albert in a diner just outside of Ft. Lauderdale 2 weeks ago... He'd fail the conditioning test, badly.[/quote]

So you're saying he looks the same as when he played?

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[quote=Mattyk;1017553]Rexy running the option has to be a sight to see.

Must be the slowest developing play in the history of football.[/quote]

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who the hell was that center? wow... and then lmao at trotting right on out of the end zone hahahaha

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[quote=Mattyk;1017553]Rexy running the option has to be a sight to see.

Must be the slowest developing play in the history of football.[/quote]

LOL Rex and running don't work in the same sentence. He waddles...slowly.

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I took a few short videos on my phone of the 4 qb's taking snaps and passing/handing off. pretty decent way to compare the four in one view.

edit: so i tried, and the videos weren't as good as i hoped. This one does have a clear shot of Griffin and Cousins side by side, with Griffin backpedalling nicely:

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Thanks for the Video CRR .

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CR!! If you had taken one step back, I would have been in the frame.

It's a worthwhile experience to go to training camp if you can. I will say Rex Grossman kept the ball on an option read in 11 on 11 drills and actually faked out a defender.

Griffin had a beautiful 50 yard pass into a double covered Alrdick Robinson and he hit him right on the money. He just looks like a lame duck if he were to have to avoid pressure. I'm interested to see how he looks in one month, as I'm sure we all are.

Moss has also been fairly impressive with some one handed grabs etc.

In one-on-one drills, Garcon was crushing everyone. Wilson was being beat pretty regularly in coverage.

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How was fan appreciation day? I didn't go because its a zoo (supposedly there was 20-25000 people there today; and I read that someone had been in line since 11:30pm last night to get good seats today.)

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[quote=Bushead;1017597]CR!! If you had taken one step back, I would have been in the frame.

It's a worthwhile experience to go to training camp if you can. I will say Rex Grossman kept the ball on an option read in 11 on 11 drills and actually faked out a defender.

Griffin had a beautiful 50 yard pass into a double covered Alrdick Robinson and he hit him right on the money. He just looks like a lame duck if he were to have to avoid pressure. I'm interested to see how he looks in one month, as I'm sure we all are.

Moss has also been fairly impressive with some one handed grabs etc.

In one-on-one drills, Garcon was crushing everyone. [B]Wilson was being beat pretty regularly in coverage.[/B][/quote]

Sounds about like his tenure here.

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Why do I have a feeling that Josh Wilson won't be on our Week 1 roster..?

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he will be, they like him, but his shoulder has been hurt for over a year now.

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this might be a little late re the signing of barnett but i went to a bills fan forum to see what they said and this one guy gives some good insight imo plus the "stand there until something happens" line re their D scheme was pretty damn funny

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Re: Redskins sign Barnett

I like Barnett, he played 90 some percent of the snaps in a ridiculously rigid incompetent defense with the only other linebacker, if there was one being Scott, who if he wasn't a linebacker on the play was surely the db backing Barnett in coverage because he was so essentially vital to Wannstedt's "do the same stuff every play because I am confused" defense.

The coverage was essentially "you stand there until something happens or you run at them if you think other stuff is happening", a key way to use an lb in his 30's who is the only linebacker linebacking but you insist runs right when all the opponent tight ends run left, or left when they run right, then note his stats were not up to par.

Barnett wasn't the problem, none of them were, not even Scott, the defense was, and I wouldn't be real surprised to see Barnett do well for a few more years.

But come on, stop this "Barnett was bad" stuff. He played over 90 percent of the snaps and the next closest LB who wasn't an LB was Scott less than 60%. Barnett, who he is, played the whole season in a Wannstedt nickel. He's not God's gift to linebackers, but he was hardly so bad being a 30 something lb who wasn't going to suddenly become Lawrence Taylor in his prime, and no one in their right mind thought we were getting Taylor in his prime to begin with, but it's trendy to say he did poorly for not being superman on a Wannstedt defense.

Good luck to Nick Barnett.

[url=http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/219807-Redskins-sign-Barnett]Redskins sign Barnett[/url]

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^^ Thanks for the read good stuff.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1017630]Why do I have a feeling that Josh Wilson won't be on our Week 1 roster..?[/quote]

Cause he very well may not be

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How has E.J Biggers looked at training camp? I am not too familiar with him as a player. Is he a good cover guy? Run support? Press?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1017634]Cause he very well may not be[/quote]

You think we trade him? I could see San Fran giving us a pick for him since it seems they're trying to get as many CBs as possible.

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[quote=JoLo;1017636]How has E.J Biggers looked at training camp? I am not too familiar with him as a player. Is he a good cover guy? Run support? Press?[/quote]

I've read that he's been beaten like a drum by Moss constantly in camp, but then again, Moss is a great slot WR.

Haven't heard much else though about him against the rest of our WR's.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1017547]Anyone at camp today? If so, pm me or CRR. We are here.[/quote]

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1017505]Going tomorrow, any tips?[/quote]


Did they require the print out passes to get into training camp? I'm headed to DC tomorrow for the week, and was going to drop in Monday morning for the 10am session.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1017639]Did they require the print out passes to get into training camp? I'm headed to DC tomorrow for the week, and was going to drop in Monday morning for the 10am session.[/QUOTE]

No they didn't check passes on Friday, and we got there about 930 and had a good location

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1017638]I've read that he's been beaten like a drum by Moss constantly in camp, but then again, Moss is a great slot WR.

Haven't heard much else though about him against the rest of our WR's.[/quote]

Was this in one on ones, or team drills?

Very few corners will consistently look good in one on ones. Mainly its the true shut down corners who are going to succeed there. Im more worried about hearing Josh Wilson getting burned so much during team drills, where he will draw safety help at times. Sounds like its a possibility that he will lose a starting spot to Amerson, and maybe even a roster spot to Minnifield if he doesnt pick it up. Its good to hear the young ones pushing the veterans.

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minnifield's knees are as bad as wilson's shoulder. i wouldn't place bets on either one one way or the other right now.

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[quote=Skinzman;1017642]Was this in one on ones, or team drills?

Very few corners will consistently look good in one on ones. Mainly its the true shut down corners who are going to succeed there. Im more worried about hearing Josh Wilson getting burned so much during team drills, where he will draw safety help at times. Sounds like its a possibility that he will lose a starting spot to Amerson, and maybe even a roster spot to Minnifield if he doesnt pick it up. Its good to hear the young ones pushing the veterans.[/quote]

I would put 0 stock in Wilson getting beat in a training camp practice.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1017638]I've read that he's been beaten like a drum by Moss constantly in camp, but then again, Moss is a great slot WR.

Haven't heard much else though about him against the rest of our WR's.[/quote]

My understanding of Biggers was he was a guy who would move outside in our nickel package while Hall would slide to the slot.

So with that understanding moving him to the slot in camp for practice and being beaten by a very good slot WR is good practice for him and at the very least means the coaching staff knows he is a last resort at the slot position.

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[url=http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20130805_Redskins__Fletcher_an_ageless_warrior.html]Redskins' Fletcher an ageless warrior[/url]

From a site up in Philly, but its a pretty good article about London Fletcher.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1017644]I would put 0 stock in Wilson getting beat in a training camp practice.[/quote]

Once or twice, sure. But from a lot of what im reading, it seems to be happening way to much. Maybe he is still behind due to his shoulder surgery, but its still not what you want to hear. Wilsons strength is positioning, knowing how to use safety help to his advantage. So I didnt rage last year since our safeties play was pretty bad. But we cant go through another year of what we had last year.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1017637]You think we trade him? I could see San Fran giving us a pick for him since it seems they're trying to get as many CBs as possible.[/quote]

Trade? Maybe, I don't know. Some knowledgeable people would tell you he may not even make the roster. I think he saved himself by taking a pay cut. However, if Chase is healthy and Crawford shows progress then they may part ways with JW. I don't believe there is any intention of keeping him past this year anyway.

Right now, he's penciled in as the starter and then sliding over to the slot position in nickel formations with Amerson taking his spot on the outside. But I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Amerson starts right away.

As is stands right now Wilson and Hall are your outside corners with Amerson, Crawford, and Minnifield backing them up. And Wilson and Biggers are the slot corners.

If Wilson goes that would leave just Biggers to play the slot. I suppose Hall could too

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And they also signed Mouton, who can play slot