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[quote=SmootSmack;1040051]I let him walk now or extend him, [B]likely the former[/B]. I don't go into next off-season with a lame duck HC[/quote]

Have you heard that may be the word round town?

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[quote=The Goat;1040055]Wow, you surprise me sometimes.[/quote]

What are you talking about?

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How about Greg Roman?

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SF and I have been high on Roman for a while

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1040081]SF and I have been high on Roman for a while[/quote]

They have a lot of good coaches in the wings. I think if we don't grab them then someone else will. I just don't want a retread situation.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1040087]They have a lot of good coaches in the wings. I think if we don't grab them then someone else will. I just don't want a retread situation.[/quote]

yeah I say no to Gruden or cowher

jerry or jerruh jones once said "No super bowl winning coach has ever won a SB with more than 1 team as a HC"

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Only coach I would consider taking over for Shanahan is Briles

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[quote=SmootSmack;1040068]What are you talking about?[/quote]

Your conciseness on the fork in the road and which direction you're looking. I thought you'd back Shanny to the (bitter) end.

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I don't want a college coach , historically they don't work out. Has he ever coached in the NFL?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1040093]I don't want a college coach , historically they don't work out. Has he ever coached in the NFL?[/quote]

Historically a lot of college coaches do work out. It's about finding the right one. The guy averages over 700 yards of offense a game in college and was RG3 Head Coach.

Here is a nice article on him about his playbooks.

[url=http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=9833069&src=desktop&wjb]ESPN NCAAF Briles' offense built around each QB[/url]

Not every college coach is Spurrier.

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[quote=Bucket;1040095]Historically a lot of college coaches do work out. It's about finding the right one. The guy averages over 700 yards of offense a game in college and was RG3 Head Coach.

Here is a nice article on him about his playbooks.

[URL="http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=9833069&src=desktop&wjb"]ESPN NCAAF Briles' offense built around each QB[/URL]

Not every college coach is Spurrier.[/quote]


I mean strictly college coaches meaning no NFL exp before. Who has worked out besides JJ?

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[quote=The Goat;1040091]Your conciseness on the fork in the road and which direction you're looking. I thought you'd back Shanny to the (bitter) end.[/quote]

Because I don't think he's a an asshole doesn't mean I think he should be the HC here

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NTM Briles is almost 60, we need a young gun in here

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I guess i'll never get the obsession over "young guns" people thrive for. If the coach can coach.. Who cares his age? He's not going out and catching passes.

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true but teams lately seem to be thriving under younger coaches,

PITT, BAL , SF etc.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1040051]I let him walk now or extend him, likely the former. I don't go into next off-season with a lame duck HC[/quote]

Why should it be any different for a coach than a player? You see teams not re-sign a player in his final year to see if he proves he deserves another contract. To me, it's step up or step out. He doesn't deserve a contract extension at this point, and to be sure he's up to the challenge of proving himself.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1040107]true but teams lately seem to be thriving under younger coaches,

PITT, BAL , SF etc.[/quote]

In each of those situation, the coach inherited a team that wasn't a complete mess and had talent. Had any of the Harbaugh's inherited this mess, I assure you they wouldn't have had the same results.

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Because a coach has a greater impact. A FA isn't going to reconsider signing if Moss is in his last year but he might if Shanahan does

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[quote=SmootSmack;1040051]I let him walk now or extend him, likely the former. I don't go into next off-season with a lame duck HC[/quote]

You're probably right.

So do you let him walk and promote Kyle or clean house entirely?

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[quote=Mattyk;1040111]You're probably right.

So do you let him walk and promote Kyle or clean house entirely?[/quote]

I'd move them both probably

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[quote=Bucket;1040106]I guess i'll never get the obsession over "young guns" people thrive for. If the coach can coach.. Who cares his age? He's not going out and catching passes.[/quote]

Well, it's a simple as this. Let's say you have two head coaches, one in his early 30's, the other in his early 60's. Let's say both have the same amount of success in their first five years of coaching the Redskins - both are able to bring a Super Bowl championship to Washington. The coach in his early 30's wants to coach until he hits retirement age, the other the same. Which one do you want? Do you want a coach who's going to coach for a few years and retire, or the one who could possibly be successfully coaching your team for the next 30 years? I think about how great it would be to even have a championship coach for a ten year tenure, but could you imagine one being a championship coach for 30 years? It would justify the last 22 years of suckiness we've had to endure.

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[quote=skinsguy;1040120]Well, it's a simple as this. Let's say you have two head coaches, one in his early 30's, the other in his early 60's. Let's say both have the same amount of success in their first five years of coaching the Redskins - both are able to bring a Super Bowl championship to Washington. The coach in his early 30's wants to coach until he hits retirement age, the other the same. Which one do you want? Do you want a coach who's going to coach for a few years and retire, or the one who could possibly be successfully coaching your team for the next 30 years? I think about how great it would be to even have a championship coach for a ten year tenure, but could you imagine one being a championship coach for 30 years? It would justify the last 22 years of suckiness we've had to endure.[/quote]

I think we all just want a coach that knows how to win games in todays NFL consistently. That is why coordinators from winning teams are always so highly valuable... They know what it takes to win.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1040113]I'd move them both probably[/quote]

SmootSmack, do you have any favorites as to whom you'd like to see coaching in Washington? Someone who you think would be a realistic choice and give this franchise the best chance at success? I hear names that the forum throws out here and there, like Greg Roman, Bill Cowher, and Jon Gruden, and I know someone had mentioned Jay Gruden before, but is there someone who most of us haven't thought of?

I'm still skeptical about moving on from Mike Shanahan. I still believe a better defense has this team a lock for the playoffs on a consistent basis.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1040103]Because I don't think he's a an asshole doesn't mean I think he should be the HC here[/quote]

Geez, really?

In the past you seemed supportive of Mike, saying things like "all he's accomplished here" etc.

Anyway, you and I finally agree on something :)

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[quote=The Goat;1040129]Geez, really?

In the past you seemed supportive of Mike, saying things like "all he's accomplished here" etc.

Anyway, you and I finally agree on something :)[/quote]

You haven't been paying attention I guess

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[quote=skinsguy;1040126]SmootSmack, do you have any favorites as to whom you'd like to see coaching in Washington? Someone who you think would be a realistic choice and give this franchise the best chance at success? I hear names that the forum throws out here and there, like Greg Roman, Bill Cowher, and Jon Gruden, and I know someone had mentioned Jay Gruden before, but is there someone who most of us haven't thought of?

I'm still skeptical about moving on from Mike Shanahan. I still believe a better defense has this team a lock for the playoffs on a consistent basis.[/quote]

I like David Shaw a lot, for starters

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[quote=SmootSmack;1040139]I like David Shaw a lot, for starters[/quote]

No way Snyder and Allen go that way.

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[quote=FRPLG;1040140]No way Snyder and Allen go that way.[/quote]

Well...

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I'm for Shaw he has NFL exp.

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I like Chad Morris a lot too, but maybe not for here

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[quote=SmootSmack;1040139]I like David Shaw a lot, for starters[/quote]

Is it the Jim Harbaugh connection? I would definitely want a coach who would continue to handle RGIII's development the right way.

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What about Sumlin?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1040141]Well...[/quote]

I've read that he is - if nothing else - on their radar. He'd be a coach I'd want if we were to release Shanny. For the next coach, I'd like to not have a retread; I'd rather have a young up and comer.

Are they grooming AJ Smith to take over for Allen, assuming bruce is given another job in the front office?

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[quote=mbedner3420;1040152]I've read that he is - if nothing else - on their radar. He'd be a coach I'd want if we were to release Shanny. For the next coach, I'd like to not have a retread; I'd rather have a young up and comer.

[B]Are they grooming AJ Smith to take over for Allen[/B], assuming bruce is given another job in the front office?[/quote]

I hope not. San Diego fans hated him while he was there.

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I hope so, look at the team he built in SD

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[quote=SmootSmack;1040139]I like David Shaw a lot, for starters[/quote]

If we were to move on, I couldnt think of a better choice. Experience on all levels. SS, make this happen!

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[quote=SirLK26;1040155]I hope not. San Diego fans hated him while he was there.[/quote]

They hated his contract disputes; theoretically, he'd be tempered by allen.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1040156]I hope so, look at the team he built in SD[/quote]

And the team that crumbled on his watch too.

Keep him away from contract negotiations. We need Bruce Allen around in some regard.

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I vote Redskinrat.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;1040163]I vote Redskinrat.[/quote]

Goat for HC
SFRedskin for OC
Tripp for DC

CultBrennan for GM.

Boom. Super Bowl.