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[quote=skinsfan69;1048774][QUOTE=Mattyk;1048701]Mike Jones ‏@MikeJonesWaPo 12m Interesting from Sean King: 1st 2 yrs: PManning 50TD/42INT (14-15 record). EManning 30/26 (12-11). Breese 28/31 (10-17). RGIII 36/17 (13-16)

[B]None of those other guys were benched in yr 2.[/QUOTE[/B]]

Cause they played better in their 2nd years. If RG3 was not throwing the ball 10 feet over the wr's heads, only looking at one wr and running into sacks he's be on the field. Even the KC defenders were saying they would just run to the side where he turned his head cause they knew he wouldn't look anywhere else. Everyone that's upset about him sitting down fail to mention any of this stuff.[/quote]

Yeah and none of them were coming off ACL surgeries either. And they all probably didn't have defenses and special teams this bad either. But yeah, let's bench just the QB. Makes total sense.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

This should make everyone happy. Definitely needed to make some peoples day here...

[url=http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/report_redskins_coaches_all_believe_theyre_getting_fired/15296942?linksrc=story_team_washington_redskins_auto_module_head_15296942]Report: Redskins coaches all believe they’re getting fired[/url]

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=Mattyk;1048775][quote=skinsfan69;1048774]

Yeah and none of them were coming off ACL surgeries either. And they all probably didn't have defenses and special teams this bad either. But yeah, let's bench just the QB. Makes total sense.[/quote]

Probably didn't have a field as bad as ours either. But yeah, let's let him keep playing so he can re-injure the knee with 3 meaningless games left to play.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=SBXVII;1048777][quote=Mattyk;1048775]

Probably didn't have a field as bad as ours either. But yeah, let's let him keep playing so he can re-injure the knee with 3 meaningless games left to play.[/quote]

If the field was really an issue they wouldn't have played him last week.

2 of the next 3 games are away anyway.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=Mattyk;1048775][quote=skinsfan69;1048774]

Yeah and none of them were coming off ACL surgeries either. And they all probably didn't have defenses and special teams this bad either. But yeah, let's bench just the QB. Makes total sense.[/quote]

In the end, that's part of being an NFL QB. When things are good, you're God and get more credit than you should. When it's bad you get dumped on. At some point you're going to get benched and booed, it's just part of the job. If a QB isn't mentally tough enough to deal with it they're not going to last. Either RG3 comes back next year swinging, and learns how to be a QB, or he could go down as Heath Shuler.

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[quote=Mattyk;1048780][quote=SBXVII;1048777]

If the field was really an issue they wouldn't have played him last week.

2 of the next 3 games are away anyway.[/quote]

See that's where MS is a bold face liar and why I think it's performance based. If he was worried about him getting injured then there's no way you send him out there on that field. Had RG3 played well last week, he'd be taking the field Sun. Obviously MS has no balls to just come out and say the truth.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=SBXVII;1048776]This should make everyone happy. Definitely needed to make some peoples day here...

[url=http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/report_redskins_coaches_all_believe_theyre_getting_fired/15296942?linksrc=story_team_washington_redskins_auto_module_head_15296942]Report: Redskins coaches all believe they’re getting fired[/url][/quote]

Good, they all deserve it as well. Every single one of them deserve a swift kick in the ass out the door.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1048724]Billick said he believes Mike is back next yr god I hope not[/quote]

Billick isn't an entirely impartial observer I don't think.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1048784]

See that's where MS is a bold face liar and why I think it's performance based. If he was worried about him getting injured then there's no way you send him out there on that field. Had RG3 played well last week, he'd be taking the field Sun. Obviously MS has no balls to just come out and say the truth.[/quote]

It makes no sense to bench him mfor performance at this point...even if his played earned it. What do you get out of it? We're out of the race. If we miracled up Joe Montana in his prime to QB for us it wouldn't matter. It's play him/coach him/develop him versus sit him. Which helps him (and the org) more?

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=FRPLG;1048801]It makes no sense to bench him mfor performance at this point...even if his played earned it. What do you get out of it? We're out of the race. If we miracled up Joe Montana in his prime to QB for us it wouldn't matter. It's play him/coach him/develop him versus sit him. Which helps him (and the org) more?[/quote]

Because they have a guy on the bench that took all the off season work, played very well in his one start and they want to take a look at him. If he plays well then that helps the organization, whether he's traded or not. That's why.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1048803]Because they have a guy on the bench that took all the off season work, played very well in his one start and they want to take a look at him. If he plays well then that helps the organization, whether he's traded or not. That's why.[/quote]

Because we have a guy ON THE BENCH? So f'n what?

Now we're going to have a GUY ON THE BENCH that we used 4 picks to get that clearly needs to work for us to have a future.

We get nothing by playing Cousins. Nothing. It is a lose-lose situation. He plays "well" and immediately we have some BS controversy even though Rob is the only QB that matters. He has to be good or we're doomed. If his isn't our QB in 1/2/3 years then we're terrible. Even if KC is great he won't be good enough to make up for what Rob is supposed to be. If KC "sucks" then we've pissed away his trade value.

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Well, here's another disgruntled player voicing his opinion.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/13/haynesworth-claims-shanahans-contract-prevents-snyder-from-talking-to-players/]Haynesworth claims Shanahan’s contract prevents Snyder from talking to players | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=FRPLG;1048807]Because we have a guy ON THE BENCH? So f'n what?

Now we're going to have a GUY ON THE BENCH that we used 4 picks to get that clearly needs to work for us to have a future.

We get nothing by playing Cousins. Nothing. It is a lose-lose situation. He plays "well" and immediately we have some BS controversy even though Rob is the only QB that matters. He has to be good or we're doomed. If his isn't our QB in 1/2/3 years then we're terrible. [B]Even if KC is great he won't be good enough to make up for what Rob is supposed to be[/B]. If KC "sucks" then we've pissed away his trade value.[/quote]

We're "doomed" if RG3 is a bust? I wonder if Chicago thought that when Josh McCown came off the bench to outplay Cutler. Look how well Nick Foles is playing? In other words... every single year in the NFL a lower paid or lower drafted guy outplays the incumbent. That's the nature of professional football.

Also the bolded comments simply make 0 sense. So if Cousins comes in a plays like he did against Cleveland then that's not good enough??? SMH. Who gives a damn about a controversy? I want the best guy on the field.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1048826]I want the best guy on the field.[/quote]No, you want Cousins on the field.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1048784][quote=Mattyk;1048780]

See that's where MS is a bold face liar and why I think it's performance based. If he was worried about him getting injured then there's no way you send him out there on that field. Had RG3 played well last week, he'd be taking the field Sun. Obviously MS has no balls to just come out and say the truth.[/quote]

If it's performance based. He should have sat Haslet down and Buns. He should have benched Plolumbus and benched Lichenstiger and Chester. We have Gettis and Compton. He should have benched London Fletcher. No, he went for Robert because he is showing his power. Believe me if you had've saw the 4th quarter against KC with Cousins at QB.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=SBXVII;1048824]Well, here's another disgruntled player voicing his opinion.

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/13/haynesworth-claims-shanahans-contract-prevents-snyder-from-talking-to-players/"]Haynesworth claims Shanahan’s contract prevents Snyder from talking to players | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]



I think anyone with a clue knows Mike had total control of the franchise, from top to bottom. And it makes his leaks about Snyder being the push for RG, Snyder interfering with Mike's coaching/mentoring, look all the more pathetic.


As I've said before, it's hard to find a coach more responsible for his team's results than Mike Shanahan in DC, because he's had so much control. Along that same line of thought he's the worst coach in football right now.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1048826]We're "doomed" if RG3 is a bust? I wonder if Chicago thought that when Josh McCown came off the bench to outplay Cutler. Look how well Nick Foles is playing? In other words... every single year in the NFL a lower paid or lower drafted guy outplays the incumbent. That's the nature of professional football.

Also the bolded comments simply make 0 sense. So if Cousins comes in a plays like he did against Cleveland then that's not good enough??? SMH. Who gives a damn about a controversy? I want the best guy on the field.[/quote]

Yes we are. For what we spent on him he has to be better than just a good QB. He has to be fantastic. Fantastic in a way that KC really has no shot to be.

If he plays like he did against Cle EVERY GAME FOR THE REST OF HIS CAREER it is not good enough. We spent 4 high picks. He has to be Brady/Manning/Rogers level. Not Phillip Rivers good.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=SBXVII;1048824]Well, here's another disgruntled player voicing his opinion.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/13/haynesworth-claims-shanahans-contract-prevents-snyder-from-talking-to-players/]Haynesworth claims Shanahan’s contract prevents Snyder from talking to players | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

If Shanny gets fired Haynesworth and McNabb will have a two man celebration party.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1048854]If Shanny gets fired Haynesworth and McNabb will have a two man celebration party.[/quote]

Count me in.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=The Goat;1048855]Count me in.[/quote]

You do realize that:
A. They will eat all the food before you get there
or
B. Eat you for an appetizer

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=GTripp0012;1048827]No, you want Cousins on the field.[/quote]

If he's the best guy then yes....I want Cousins. If we suck again next year, then I hope like hell it's Jameis Winston.