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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051070]Other than Lovie, not a single person listed strikes me as a sure fire upgrade over Shanahan. I understand it's trendy to hate on Shanahan now, but Why buy out Shanahan and his staffs contracts for someone who's not clearly better?[/quote]Lovie is like the sixth best coach on that list.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1051072]Mike doesn't want to be here anymore that's y and I wonder what interest Todd Bowles has in coaching the skins[/quote]

I think mike would be just fine if he got to choose the starting quarterback

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[quote=GTripp0012;1051073]Lovie is like the sixth best coach on that list.[/quote]

And he's the only one remotely qualified for the job. Everyone else is a gamble with an unproven and/or negative track record at the nfl level.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051077]And he's the only one remotely qualified for the job. Everyone else is a gamble with an unproven and/or negative track record at the nfl level.[/quote]Only if you don't know anything about them.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051076]I think mike would be just fine if he got to choose the starting quarterback[/quote]Won 11 games in 2010 and 2011.

Named Griffin his starter after one practice.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1051078]Only if you don't know anything about them.[/quote]

So tell me about obriens and briles proven track record in the nfl?

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=GTripp0012;1051079]Won 11 games in 2010 and 2011.

Named Griffin his starter after one practice.[/quote]

He didn't want griffin to start this year. Schedter indicated he'd want to have a competition at the position if he were retained next year.... But that Snyder wouldn't let him. Shanahan wisely has seen enough of rg3 to know he doesn't deserve to be the unquestioned starter. If I had to choose between Shanahan and rg3, I'd choose the coach. He inherited a mess from zorn and Cerrato and then got stuck with 36MM in cap penalties that limited his ability to improve the team. Rg3 has trade value. I'd trade him and roll with cousins and see what Shanahan can do with a full compliment of draft picks and a ton of cap space to finally build the team he wants.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051080]So tell me about obriens and briles proven track record in the nfl?[/quote]Two completely different cases.

Two similarities: consistent player development and winning football teams.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051081]He didn't want griffin to start this year. Schedter indicated he'd want to have a competition at the position if he were retained next year.... But that Snyder wouldn't let him. Shanahan wisely has seen enough of rg3 to know he doesn't deserve to be the unquestioned starter. If I had to choose between Shanahan and rg3, I'd choose the coach. He inherited a mess from zorn and Cerrato and then got stuck with 36MM in cap penalties that limited his ability to improve the team. Rg3 has trade value. I'd trade him and roll with cousins and [B]see what Shanahan can do with a full compliment of draft picks and a ton of cap space to finally build the team he wants.[/B][/quote]I'll save you the time:

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den/2006.htm]2006 Denver Broncos Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den/2007.htm]2007 Denver Broncos Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den/2008.htm]2008 Denver Broncos Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

14-33 vs. the vegas line.

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I wouldn't mind seeing a coaching staff comprised of Whisenhunt, Bowles and Grimm.

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I truly find it astonishing that there is anyone left defending Shanahan. I try to find something he does well... I cannot.

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=donofriose;1051090]I truly find it astonishing that there is anyone left defending Shanahan. I try to find something he does well... I cannot.[/quote]

SHANARAT is done.

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051081]He didn't want griffin to start this year. Schedter indicated he'd want to have a competition at the position if he were retained next year.... But that Snyder wouldn't let him. Shanahan wisely has seen enough of rg3 to know he doesn't deserve to be the unquestioned starter. [B]If I had to choose between Shanahan and rg3, I'd choose the coach.[/B] [B] He inherited a mess from zorn and Cerrato and then got stuck with 36MM in cap penalties that limited his ability to improve the team[/B]. Rg3 has trade value. I'd trade him and roll with cousins and see what Shanahan can do with a full compliment of draft picks and a ton of cap space to finally build the team he wants.[/quote]

I wouldn't listen to anything that Schefter has to say about Shanahan.

The first bold is just moronic and the second bold is Shanahan's fault and really has little to nothing to do with Zorn. Not to mention the fact that the roster has been COMPLETELY turned over in the FOUR years that Shanahan has been coach.

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[quote=donofriose;1051090]I truly find it astonishing that there is anyone left defending Shanahan. I try to find something he does well... I cannot.[/quote]

I find it stupid as hell really. Just flat out idiotic.

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[quote=donofriose;1051090]I truly find it astonishing that there is anyone left defending Shanahan. I try to find something he does well... I cannot.[/quote]

He does a great job of looking like a cranberry.

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1051071]We're acquainted, yes. And I've tried :)[/QUOTE]

Is it because of DS?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1051097]Is it because of DS?[/quote]

Not even in the slightest

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1051098]Not even in the slightest[/QUOTE]

Good

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/12/23/shanahan-expects-quick-resolution-on-his-future-once-season-ends/]Shanahan expects quick resolution on his future once season ends[/url]

Yeah, the boot!!

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At this point, I just wanna know who the next coach is gonna be so I can start looking forward to next season. I am ready for the rebuild now.

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051070]Other than Lovie, not a single person listed strikes me as a sure fire upgrade over Shanahan. I understand it's trendy to hate on Shanahan now, but Why buy out Shanahan and his staffs contracts for someone who's not clearly better?[/quote]

You strike me as a pack rat

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1051106]At this point, I just wanna know who the next coach is gonna be so I can start looking forward to next season. I am ready for the rebuild now.[/QUOTE]

I wish it was the playoffs already

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[quote=SmootSmack;1051113]You strike me as a pack rat[/quote]

You think I'm a hoarder? I don't get it.

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been hearing more and more talk of gwilliams coming back as DC...while i would love that, how do the rest of warpath think about this?

[QUOTE=dmek25;1051139]been hearing more and more talk of gwilliams coming back as DC...while i would love that, how do the rest of warpath think about this?[/QUOTE]

Rather have Bowles

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Is there anything we can do to help keep Shanny out the Hall of Fame?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051138]You think I'm a hoarder? I don't get it.[/quote]

Wrong,, Dolphins do know what they're doing.

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=dmek25;1051139]been hearing more and more talk of gwilliams coming back as DC...while i would love that, how do the rest of warpath think about this?[/quote]

Why would we bring him back when we dont even have a coach yet?

Coach Bounty would be my pick, that would be a start. No ideas as to his supporting cast of coaches and assistants.

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I think Shanahan stays ,I think everyone stays in place .I just think DS is more evolved in this then some of you think .Sometimes the best reaction is none at all .

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1051141]Is there anything we can do to help keep Shanny out the Hall of Fame?[/quote]

All this Shanahan hate is out of control. Its so easy to forget that he is the one who cleaned up all the mess and dysfunction Cerrato and Snyder created.

Fletcher, whos retiring, publically lobbied for Shanahan to stay, and said 95% of the players on the team wanted him to come back. If Shanahan were a bad coach, or the team felt that HE was responsible for the current messy situation, they wouldnt be saying that. Ultimately, theres a pissing match going on between the coach and a diva QB. Fletchers comments indicate the players Side with their coach, not the Diva.... yet, so many of you want to rally behind the Diva - the source of the teams problems - and throw the coach away? Explain that to me please.

Also explain this to me - if RG3 can do this to Shanahan, a well respected, established Head Coach... how on earth do you think things will be better with a college coach in his first NFL gig? Or a coordinator in his first HC role? Change isnt always good people.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1051141]Is there anything we can do to help keep Shanny out the Hall of Fame?[/quote]



Now , really ?:smashfreak:

[QUOTE=Giantone;1051145]I think Shanahan stays ,I think everyone stays in place .I just think DS is more evolved in this then some of you think .Sometimes the best reaction is none at all .[/QUOTE]

I dont think it's Dan, I believe mike wants out

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Maybe we could trade Coughlin for Shamny at midfield after the handshake.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1051141]Is there anything we can do to help keep Shanny out the Hall of Fame?[/quote]

He's doing a fine job of that himself these last 4 years.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051138]You think I'm a hoarder? I don't get it.[/quote]

I think you don't know how to get rid of things that serve no purpose anymore, and progress

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051146]All this Shanahan hate is out of control. Its so easy to forget that he is the one who cleaned up all the mess and dysfunction Cerrato and Snyder created.

Fletcher, whos retiring, publically lobbied for Shanahan to stay, and said 95% of the players on the team wanted him to come back. If Shanahan were a bad coach, or the team felt that HE was responsible for the current messy situation, they wouldnt be saying that. Ultimately, theres a pissing match going on between the coach and a diva QB. Fletchers comments indicate the players Side with their coach, not the Diva.... yet, so many of you want to rally behind the Diva - the source of the teams problems - and throw the coach away? Explain that to me please.

Also explain this to me - if RG3 can do this to Shanahan, a well respected, established Head Coach... how on earth do you think things will be better with a college coach in his first NFL gig? Or a coordinator in his first HC role? Change isnt always good people.[/quote]

So you just choose to ignore the things London has said about Rob? Ok

Re: Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach (Volume 2)
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051146]All this Shanahan hate is out of control. Its so easy to forget that he is the one who cleaned up all the mess and dysfunction Cerrato and Snyder created.

Fletcher, whos retiring, publically lobbied for Shanahan to stay, and said 95% of the players on the team wanted him to come back. If Shanahan were a bad coach, or the team felt that HE was responsible for the current messy situation, they wouldnt be saying that. Ultimately, theres a pissing match going on between the coach and a diva QB. Fletchers comments indicate the players Side with their coach, not the Diva.... yet, so many of you want to rally behind the Diva - the source of the teams problems - and throw the coach away? Explain that to me please.

Also explain this to me - if RG3 can do this to Shanahan, a well respected, established Head Coach... how on earth do you think things will be better with a college coach in his first NFL gig? Or a coordinator in his first HC role? Change isnt always good people.[/quote]

Shanny should have not wasted our time with the Beck/Grossman year and the McNabb fiasco. It's his fault. Shannhan has had the worse Redskins defense ever and this year topped it off with the worse special teams ever period.(according to Darren Sharper on NFL network)

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1051141]Is there anything we can do to help keep Shanny out the Hall of Fame?[/quote]

He already did that on his own.

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The mess he cleaned up? How about the mess he's created?

We're staring down 3 and effing 13 and his hands are clean and it's all on the "diva" QB?

WTF?!