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DynamiteRave 02-20-2014 11:52 AM

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Rice sucked last year but he's a good player. I'm not sure they could do better than him.

Lotus 02-20-2014 12:20 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1059905]Well, Fred probably got his "supplements" in Colorado. Perhaps in brownie form.[/quote]

Vitamin THC is really good for you.

Gary84Clark 02-20-2014 12:22 PM

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Salary Cap 130 million instead of 123 million. How much more quality can we get with 7 million more in salary cap space?

Monkeydad 02-20-2014 01:16 PM

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1059953]Salary Cap 130 million instead of 123 million. How much more quality can we get with 7 million more in salary cap space?[/quote]

Should help us get someone like Eric Decker or Jeremy Maclin instead of Brandon LaFell or Riley Cooper.

We need to add someone who can return the ball too, maybe McCluster or Jacoby Jones.

over the mountain 02-20-2014 02:28 PM

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im not buying on decker. it may be short sighted of me but i think peyton makes guys look better than their ability really is and im weary of guys playing with great people around them and expecting their production to not drop with a new team.

kinda like linebackers with the ravens. i dont think bart or kruger have lived up to the expectations after they left the ravens.

Alvin Walton 02-20-2014 02:32 PM

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Decker is going to want crazy money. I'd stay away from that.
LaFell would be my main target in FA.
Cooper would be nice too.

SirLK26 02-20-2014 02:36 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1059978]Decker is going to want crazy money. I'd stay away from that.
LaFell would be my main target in FA.
Cooper would be nice too.[/quote]

Cue the ridiculous, "Not Cooper, because he is racist" comments.

I agree with you, Cooper would be nice.

Lotus 02-20-2014 02:36 PM

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^^ I'm with you guys. Decker disappeared in the biggest game yet will want elite money. No Decker.

We could use our top pick on a WR and get more bang for the buck than with signing Decker.

artmonkforhallofamein07 02-20-2014 02:47 PM

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[quote=over the mountain;1059974]im not buying on decker. it may be short sighted of me but i think peyton makes guys look better than their ability really is and im weary of guys playing with great people around them and expecting their production to not drop with a new team.

kinda like linebackers with the ravens. i dont think bart or kruger have lived up to the expectations after they left the ravens.[/quote]

I also thought the same about Garçon, BUT the Decker argument is a little different in that he also plays with Welker, D Thomas, and J Thomas.

If we can get a guy I would like it to be Edleman. No to Cooper and no to a big contract for Decker.

Edleman in the slot with Garçon and Hankerson/Robinson on the outside sounds pretty good to me.

Chico23231 02-20-2014 03:31 PM

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F*ck Riley Cooper

over the mountain 02-20-2014 03:33 PM

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1059981]I also thought the same about Garçon, BUT the Decker argument is a little different in that he also plays with Welker, D Thomas, and J Thomas.

[/quote]

dang, yeah the garcon card is a great rebuttal to the "peyton cures cancer" argument. i can hedge it a bit with the opinion (like you said) that decker had a better receiving corps than garcon with the colts. but you can hedge that with the argument that decker then had to share more touches with the other bronco receivers. my intellect is truly dizzying.

truth be told i didnt think garcon would be this good or this physical.

Gary84Clark 02-20-2014 03:59 PM

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Julius Peppers, De Marcusd Ware and BJ Raji ... show me what you got...

Monkeydad 02-20-2014 04:04 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1059990]F*ck Riley Cooper[/quote]

Stop being racist.


[quote=Gary84Clark;1059994]Julius Peppers, De Marcusd Ware and BJ Raji ... show me what you got...[/quote]


I think Peppers would demand too much.

Ware would be fun to have on our side finally after he's tortured us for so long if the price is reasonable.

I'd LOVE to have Raji at NT for us.

skinsfan69 02-20-2014 04:29 PM

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1059953]Salary Cap 130 million instead of 123 million. How much more quality can we get with 7 million more in salary cap space?[/quote]

It's not about going on a spending spree cause we've all seen how well that's worked around here. It's about getting the right guys who fit your blueprint. Not really even sure we have a true blueprint. But I would say no thanks to Raji, Peppers and Decker.

Schneed10 02-20-2014 04:39 PM

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1059953]Salary Cap 130 million instead of 123 million. How much more quality can we get with 7 million more in salary cap space?[/quote]

It was not expected to be 123, it was expected to be 126 and change.

It's a 3.5M boost in cap space, not 7M.

- Accounting Dept.

NC_Skins 02-20-2014 04:45 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1059905]Well, Fred probably got his "supplements" in Colorado. Perhaps in brownie form.[/quote]

9/10


would laugh again. :laughing-

SirLK26 02-20-2014 05:43 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1059990]F*ck Riley Cooper[/quote]

The people you should be insulting are those who won't accept Cooper's profuse apologies and move on from an incident that happened almost a year ago...

NC_Skins 02-20-2014 11:16 PM

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[B][SIZE="5"]@MikeJonesWaPo

Can confirm Fred Davis was pulled over today and charged with DUI today in Fairfax Country.[/SIZE][/B]


[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/article/troubled-te-fred-davis-busted-dui-thurs-fred-davis-was]Troubled TE Fred Davis busted for DUI Thurs. - Fred Davis | WAS | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]


Fred Davis. The gift that keeps on giving. :doh:

kct1975 02-20-2014 11:37 PM

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1060034][B][SIZE="5"]@MikeJonesWaPo

Can confirm Fred Davis was pulled over today and charged with DUI today in Fairfax Country.[/SIZE][/B]


[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/article/troubled-te-fred-davis-busted-dui-thurs-fred-davis-was]Troubled TE Fred Davis busted for DUI Thurs. - Fred Davis | WAS | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]


Fred Davis. The gift that keeps on giving. :doh:[/QUOTE]

Yup!

Message to Redskins Management:
Please CUT Fred Davis NOW!

NC_Skins 02-20-2014 11:42 PM

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[quote=kct1975;1060035]Yup!

Message to Redskins Management:
Please CUT Fred Davis NOW![/quote]

He's not on the team. He's a free agent.

artmonkforhallofamein07 02-21-2014 12:03 AM

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I don't understand why so many fans think he is still on the team. I guess technically he is until the FA/New league year begin. But we don't have to do a thing and let him fade off in the sunset.

Gary84Clark 02-21-2014 07:30 AM

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No ex eagles and no ex cowboys or ex giants except Tuck.

skinsguy 02-21-2014 08:38 AM

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[quote=NC_Skins;1060036]He's not on the team. He's a free agent.[/quote]

Well technically the new league year hasn't started yet, so yeah, he's still on the team - but for all intents and purposes he's as good as gone.

Chico23231 02-21-2014 08:49 AM

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is there something more going on with FD than football? something isnt right with that dude.

Chico23231 02-21-2014 08:57 AM

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10494181/police-video-evidence-baltimore-ravens-ray-rice-knocking-fiancee-unconscious]Police have video evidence of Baltimore Ravens' Ray Rice knocking fiancee unconscious - ESPN[/url]

Looking forward to the video to expose this piece of shit. I guess this is considered a "minor incident" by the police and the casino. Lets see how the league will view it.

ArtMonkDrillz 02-21-2014 09:10 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1060055]is there something more going on with FD than football? something isnt right with that dude.[/quote]My thoughts exactly. It's actually kind of sad at this point. Pure speculation on my part, but maybe he figured his NFL career was basically in the gutter so he went out and got hammered in the middle of the afternoon and then made the stupid decision to get behind the wheel.
Sounds like the guy needs a lot of help.

That Guy 02-21-2014 10:15 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1060055]is there something more going on with FD than football? something isnt right with that dude.[/quote]

he's rich and he lots pot more than football. sometimes some of these athletes can skate through college into the NFL without having to take responsibility for their actions, cause they're good at playing football.

honestly, i don't know him, but it's obvious that the NFL isn't that important.

Monkeydad 02-21-2014 10:15 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1060055]is there something more going on with FD than football? something isnt right with that dude.[/quote]

He loves drugs...and people here want it legalized? If someone can F up their life so badly when it's against the law, think how many more people and how much quicker they'll do it when they can pick it up at a convenience store.

MTK 02-21-2014 10:18 AM

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[quote=Monkeydad;1060094]He loves drugs...and people here want it legalized? If someone can F up their life so badly when it's against the law, think how many more people and how much quicker they'll do it when they can pick it up at a convenience store.[/quote]

If it's legal are you going to try it?

SkinsGuru 02-21-2014 10:22 AM

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[quote=Monkeydad;1060094]He loves drugs...and people here want it legalized? If someone can F up their life so badly when it's against the law, think how many more people and how much quicker they'll do it when they can pick it up at a convenience store.[/quote]

disagree . . . he may have screwed his football career and life's work, but ONLY because it was illegal . . . if it were legal and not against the nfl rules, how would pot have hurt him?? . . . the alcohol DUI is FAR FAR FAR worse than smoking a little weed

Chico23231 02-21-2014 10:32 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;1060095]If it's legal are you going to try it?[/quote]

MD sounds like he needs too. fo reals

Lotus 02-21-2014 11:17 AM

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[quote=Monkeydad;1060094]He loves drugs...and people here want it legalized? [B]If someone can F up their life so badly when it's against the law, think how many more people and how much quicker they'll do it when they can pick it up at a convenience store[/B].[/quote]

That same argument was made during alcohol prohibition. How'd that work out?

SouperMeister 02-21-2014 11:32 AM

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[quote=That Guy;1060093]he's rich and he lots pot more than football. sometimes some of these athletes can skate through college into the NFL without having to take responsibility for their actions, cause they're good at playing football.

honestly, i don't know him, but it's obvious that the NFL isn't that important.[/quote]Based upon Fred's stellar decisions in the past, it's safe to say that he won't be rich for very long now that his NFL career is pretty much over.

ArtMonkDrillz 02-21-2014 11:40 AM

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[quote=Monkeydad;1060094]He loves drugs...and people here want it legalized? If someone can F up their life so badly when it's against the law, think how many more people and how much quicker they'll do it when they can pick it up at a convenience store.[/quote]CC Sabathia damn near ate himself out of baseball because he'd scarf down multiple boxes of Cap'n Crunch everyday; so should sugary cereal be banned for professional athletes too?
I'm no expert, but it seems like Fred Davis just may have an addictive personality and/or football just isn't that important to him so legality doesn't have much to do with it.
Plus, who's to say that his second suspension was actually for pot? The reports don't specify what it was for. Yes, it probably was weed but we don't really know for sure.

skinsguy 02-21-2014 11:44 AM

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1060096]disagree . . . he may have screwed his football career and life's work, but ONLY because it was illegal . . . if it were legal and not against the nfl rules, how would pot have hurt him?? . . . the alcohol DUI is FAR FAR FAR worse than smoking a little weed[/quote]

Do you believe pot is 100% safe?

Alvin Walton 02-21-2014 11:46 AM

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Nothing is 100% safe.
A salad fork can be dangerous to you if used improperly.

SmootSmack 02-21-2014 12:35 PM

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Fred's got serious maturity/insecurity issues. He's been in trouble with the law a lot more often than has been reported, I'll say that much

DynamiteRave 02-21-2014 12:37 PM

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[quote=Monkeydad;1060094]He loves drugs...and people here want it legalized? If someone can F up their life so badly when it's against the law, [B]think how many more people and how much quicker they'll do it when they can pick it up at a convenience store[/B].[/quote]

Except the effects of weed and alcohol and the science of the addiction behind them both are... completely different. Also it takes certain type of person to even TRY illegal drugs. For example, if they legalize PCP tomorrow and you can buy it at CVS, are you going to run out and try it? Most people, obviously won't.

But like AW said, nothing is 100% safe.

Chico23231 02-21-2014 12:50 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1060113]Fred's got serious maturity/insecurity issues. He's been in trouble with the law a lot more often than has been reported, I'll say that much[/quote]

Jeez thats sad, thanks for the insight. I guess the Skins arent there to bail him out anymore, literrally.

Monkeydad 02-21-2014 02:01 PM

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Davis' DUI was at 3:45 in the afternoon, on a Thursday. Yeah, he has problems.


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