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[quote=SirLK26;1078843]It's so dumb how RG's mistakes are magnified and his visible progession as a pocket passer is minimized, while Cousins' mistakes are minimized and his big plays are magnified. It's like people want to hate our starter, which makes no sense.

So on that note, can we quit the "RG is a bust because he looked bad in a preseason game" crap? Until we see the Houston game, we won't have a good enough look at the guy to make fair judgements.[/quote]

backup qb has always been the favorite player in this town. it's just the way it is.

you have to go out of your way to find quality analysis on him at this point.

chris cooley's pretty good, but it's admittedly hard to tell when he's being a homer and when he's giving quality analysis.

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Love how Kap does his RG3 impression on third down and gets no criticizing on his behalf. Not to mention he fumbled.

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[QUOTE=ethat001;1078824]I think he's mentally out of synch. Confidence is everything (look at Shaub), and those split seconds of indecision are everything. His stutter step hesitation to Morris caused the interception.



I'd say we have the pieces now to compete, we may have a good enough defense to take us into the playoffs if our offense showed up.. Come on, if RG3 could just get the ball to ANYONE (morris, jackson, garcon, roberts, reed) -- we'd be fine. But he's running it out of bounds for losses (!!) and telegraphing passes. Personally I think he runs it out of bounds instead of throwing it away so his completion percentage doesn't suffer, which is sad.



I'm just hoping (1) O-line gets better as they play together enough (including M.Moses playing well enough to come in mid-season to solidify the right, (2) RG3 starts to be confident again & not lose games for us.





But.. it's only preseason. Let's see what happens.[/QUOTE]


I agree with everything here except there is no way Griff is padding his stats by making stupid decisions.

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1078828][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/EbWu7VI.png[/IMG]



Breakdown:



[url=http://imgur.com/a/yqNvK]preseason game 3 - Imgur[/url][/QUOTE]


Wow. Just wow. I mean Reed is effin wide open huh? Jeez. That is concerning. Two more weeks to fix it.

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If Rg3 keeps taking big hits every game cousins will get his shot.I just hope they are on the same page and he learns how to slide.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1078818]So what for style points. Grossman can't win and neither can Cousins. We play Clowney and Watts week 1. Cousins don't belong on the same field as those two athletes. [B]Robert ran out of bounds, ain't that what y'all p*ssy ass fans want?[/B][/quote]We sure as hell don't want our QBs running OB and taking a 5 yard sack when just tossing the ball out of bounds would put the ball back at the original line of scrimmage! Pro Quarterbacking 101.

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Yea hes just gotta use his instincts and let it rip like he used to. He has been hesitating. But last game he didnt hesitate and he threw the pick to Haden he rifled that one quick. So here we see hesitation, there we see an itchy trigger. Man i hope he shows up week one. Hes had a few good throws he takes heavyyyyy critisim its ridiculous.

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It will anger me if the NFL fines and suspends Meriweather for the head-to head hit. I don't think he did anything wrong on the play. He was plenty low but the RB lowered his head at the last instant which is what caused the h-to-h hit.

I think the NFL is doing a terrible job of officiating this rule. The offensive player bears some responsibility for protecting himself, as well. This penalty should be reviewable and if the offensive player contributed to the h-to-h hit then the penalty should be waived.

Also, there have been many of these calls that I consider to be incidental. These have mostly involved hits on QB's where the QB's helmet is just grazed or tapped lightly as part of a clean play. Often, the player who is penalized is blocked into the QB. These plays should not be penalized.

The worst part of this poorly thought out and officiated rule is that the player who was penalized is invariably fined and suspended. This rule is simply unfair to the defense as it is currently enforced.

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So much overreaction about the preaseason. Theismann should know better than that. How many times have we been completely fooled?

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[quote=Skins4L;1078918]Yea hes just gotta use his instincts and let it rip like he used to. He has been hesitating. But last game he didnt hesitate and he threw the pick to Haden he rifled that one quick. So here we see hesitation, there we see an itchy trigger. Man i hope he shows up week one. Hes had a few good throws he takes heavyyyyy critisim its ridiculous.[/quote]

[SIZE="3"]He [U]will[/U] show up in week 1, he [U]will[/U] use his instincts, and he [U]will[/U] let it rip. He [U]will[/U] be helped a lot by a game plan that [U]will[/U] be tailored to what he does best.

After he plays well in Game 1, I [U]will[/U] call his most vocal critics on this board a bunch of short-sighted, faithless cry-babies.[/SIZE]

[SIZE="1"]p.s. - In the unlikely event that I'm wrong and he plays poorly, those same critics [U]will[/U] rip me a new one and I [U]will[/U] start to worry about his play.[/SIZE]

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[quote=skinsguy;1078928]So much overreaction about the preaseason. Theismann should know better than that. How many times have we been completely fooled?[/quote]

True. My wife claims that the worse they play in preseason, the better they play in the regular season.

Years ago, during Gibbs I, the Skins had a horrible preseason. Before the first game, my wife urged me to get Super Bowl tickets, explaining to me what she had observed about the team. I laughed at what she said and I didn't buy the tickets.

Sure enough, the Skins went to the Super Bowl that season - in beautiful San Diego, no less.

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[quote=punch it in;1078860]Wow. Just wow. I mean Reed is effin wide open huh? Jeez. That is concerning. Two more weeks to fix it.[/quote]

Had all day to throw as well. Embarassingly bad. And I don't know how jumping in the air to throw the ball and running out of bounds 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage have anything to do with learning a new system.

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[QUOTE=SouperMeister;1078897]We sure as hell don't want our QBs running OB and taking a 5 yard sack when just tossing the ball out of bounds would put the ball back at the original line of scrimmage! Pro Quarterbacking 101.[/QUOTE]


Thanks I thought maybe I was the only one who noticed that. Lol

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[QUOTE=44Deezel;1078935]Had all day to throw as well. Embarassingly bad. And I don't know how jumping in the air to throw the ball and running out of bounds 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage have anything to do with learning a new system.[/QUOTE]


They are straight up brain farts and it worries me alittle. Im not going to lie.

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we are who we thought we were.

our pass rush looked great. balt radio talking heads are worried how rak bested monroe and how kerrigan constantly abused their RT with the same move. saying flacco as under pressure the entire half. their O line got no push as evidenced by the 4-1s.

our secondary has not been tested yet with vanilla offenses, come regular season i think this is going to be a huge problem leading to many losses.


its preseason.

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1078965]we are who we thought we were.



our pass rush looked great. balt radio talking heads are worried how rak bested monroe and how kerrigan constantly abused their RT with the same move. saying flacco as under pressure the entire half. their O line got no push as evidenced by the 4-1s.



our secondary has not been tested yet with vanilla offenses, come regular season i think this is going to be a huge problem leading to many losses.





its preseason.[/QUOTE]


BW and Amerson look good though.

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our secondary = 5 win season.

come regular season, if the pass rush doesnt get there on every play, the secondary will be exposed. its a calculated gamble and defense approach we are taking this season. probably forcing the scheme choice bc of the personnel we have bc we neglected a huge area of need this offseason. play to our strengths (pass rush) and try to minimize the exposure of our weak spot (secondary) isnt the worst approach but it is limited and one dimensional.

if we cant consistently create pressure bringing 4-5 guys, we will have a huge problem bc you cant bring 6 or more every down.

our achilles heal will be targeted by offensive coordinators come reg season. im not sold on our secondary being serviceable in the reg season bc they werent tested in the preseason.

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1078974]our secondary = 5 win season.



come regular season, if the pass rush doesnt get there on every play, the secondary will be exposed. its a calculated gamble and defense approach we are taking this season. probably forcing the scheme choice bc of the personnel we have bc we neglected a huge area of need this offseason. play to our strengths (pass rush) and try to minimize the exposure of our weak spot (secondary) isnt the worst approach but it is limited and one dimensional.



if we cant consistently create pressure bringing 4-5 guys, we will have a huge problem bc you cant bring 6 or more every down.



our achilles heal will be targeted by offensive coordinators come reg season. im not sold on our secondary being serviceable in the reg season bc they werent tested in the preseason.[/QUOTE]


I dont think its the greatest secondary of all time, but its honestly the least of my worries at this point. Now if you want to vent about the offense have at it. Lol

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[quote=SouperMeister;1078897]We sure as hell don't want our QBs running OB and taking a 5 yard sack when just tossing the ball out of bounds would put the ball back at the original line of scrimmage! Pro Quarterbacking 101.[/quote]

More like High School Quarterbacking 101.

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I don't see the secondary has a huge issue either. Certainly not when compared to last year.

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i ahve to respectfully disagree with you huys re the secondary. i hope i eat crow but ..

paper thin secondary at every single position with the "starters" being below average for starters at every position. hall and amerson = no. 2s, merriweather and clark are probably the weakest starting safety combo in the league.

talent wins. time will tell. a few preseason games where the safeties werent tested is false hope imo.


ps - did anyone else notice RG3 being the only one not knowing the 1st quarter was running down after he hit roberts for that long 49 yard pass play at the end of the 1st quarter against the browns? im starting to question whether i actually saw it now.

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We really need to remain healthy at safety for the secondary to funtion properly. So far BM and RC have been solid. Now this talk of that bullsh*t helmet to helmet hit could hurt us. Safety depth is still an issue. Rambo has been good, but Phillip Thomas is doing nothing.

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Love Brandon Meriweather...I have become a fan.
Dude brings an urgency and Physicality to the D we desperately need (if he can manage to not get suspended). Haven't seen that kind of banger in a while

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[url]http://sportadore.com/Away?u=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FSCHP5hnblX[/url]

video of ngata kicking lauvau .. it was a nudge of a kick but still a kick none the less. ngata admitted to the kick saying he was frustrated etc .. tough spot for goddell. while it was a small kick, how can he not suspend ngata for a game or so to be consistent. you have to make a strict bright line for players doing things post whistle, especially considering lauvau was on the ground in a vulnerable and helpless position and this isnt one of those mutual affray situations where both players are grabbing face mask.

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1079001]i ahve to respectfully disagree with you huys re the secondary. i hope i eat crow but ..



paper thin secondary at every single position with the "starters" being below average for starters at every position. hall and amerson = no. 2s, merriweather and clark are probably the weakest starting safety combo in the league.



talent wins. time will tell. a few preseason games where the safeties werent tested is false hope imo.





ps - did anyone else notice RG3 being the only one not knowing the 1st quarter was running down after he hit roberts for that long 49 yard pass play at the end of the 1st quarter against the browns? im starting to question whether i actually saw it now.[/QUOTE]


Hall is not a 2, and can we give Amerson a chance to play before we designate him as below avg? Lol. We do not have a whole ton of depth in the secondary, but you may want to look around the league. Our starters are certainly not the worst.

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hall is a no 2 at best imo. im not a fan of gauging a players worth by looking at the interest of other GMs but no one wanted to sign him and he came back to us. im not trying to bash hall, he loves the skins, he is the best that we have, plays with heart but his track record is what it is (high completion %, gambler). would hall be a no. 1 on any other team?

amerson - im not designating him below average but he is a no. 2 corner entering this season. he is in his 2nd year, has a ton of time to grow and flourish and has all the tools to be a legit no. 1 at seasons end but ... as of right now, he is a no. 2 at best. would he be any teams no 1 going into this season?

imo our starting secondary going into this season is the worst in the league on paper.

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Hall would be a starter on several other teams. Panthers, jags, steelers, raiders, probably a few others imo.

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Merriweather suspended 2 games

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Rak not happy about suspension.
[IMG]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/0ldWEopElCBGErNEqYSz2CtykBDQgwQv55lklPtLrGU=w705-h207-p-no[/IMG]

Ironically I think everyone was waiting for this exact situation to emerge. A player receiving a suspension equal to or greater than Ray Rice. Kind of glad to see it happen sooner rather then later, sad though that it was one of our players falling on the sword so to speak.

Side note: SMH means 'Send More Ham.'

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[quote=Dirtbag59;1079044]Rak not happy about suspension.
[IMG]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/0ldWEopElCBGErNEqYSz2CtykBDQgwQv55lklPtLrGU=w705-h207-p-no[/IMG]

Ironically I think everyone was waiting for this exact situation to emerge. A player receiving a suspension equal to or greater than Ray Rice. Kind of glad to see it happen sooner rather then later, sad though that it was one of our players falling on the sword so to speak.[/quote]

This suspension is ridiculous. The RB lowered his head at the last instant to cause the helmet-to-helmet hit. Nobody could have reacted fast enough to avoid hitting the RB's helmet.

Glad you brought up the Ray Rice penalty comparison. It illustrates how suspect NFL "justice" is under Goodell.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1079046]This suspension is ridiculous. The RB lowered his head at the last instant to cause the helmet-to-helmet hit. Nobody could have reacted fast enough to avoid hitting the RB's helmet.

Glad you brought up the Ray Rice penalty comparison. It illustrates how suspect NFL "justice" is under Goodell.[/quote]

Thanks but I'm hardly the only one. Here's some of the best one's I've found.

[quote]Lisa Raines ‏@LadyinBurgundy 58m
So Ray Rice knocks his wife out and gets ONLY a 2 game suspension . Brandon Merriweather tries to avoid a helmet hit and is suspended?
Washington, DC[/quote]

[quote]t rollins ‏@Rocmd2020 45m
Merriweather 2 games for violating safety rules. Rice two games for violating a chick's cranium. Ok[/quote]

[quote]Ben Farquhar ‏@B_Farquhar 42m
So Merriweather going helmet 2 helmet with a WR in the preseason is the same thing as Rice going hand to face with his wife? #TheMoreYouKnow[/quote]

[quote]Cassie McHenry ‏@CassieMcHenry 26m
Glad Merriweather got the same punishment as Ray Rice for a hit in a violent game not physical abuse of a woman???? #ok[/quote]

You can find more [URL="https://twitter.com/search?src=typd&q=Merriweather%20rice"]here[/URL].

I really like this one from PFT:
[quote]4thquartermagic says:
Aug 25, 2014 6:04 PM
Two games?

Didn’t realize Merriweather delivered a forceful blow to the head and neck area of a woman.

413 72
Report comment[/quote]

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Since we know the NFL is pretty much going hard on BM every time he lays the wood, at what point do we decide to upgrade or seek a reliable backup? If Thomas can't go week 1, who starts at safety for us?

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[quote=mooby;1079051]Since we know the NFL is pretty much going hard on BM every time he lays the wood, at what point do we decide to upgrade or seek a reliable backup? If Thomas can't go week 1, who starts at safety for us?[/quote]

Pickup Doughty. Lol

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Also, Ngata admitted to kicking Shawn Lauvao "in the heat of the moment" during the same game. This is an admission of a deliberate assault. So, why hasn't he been suspended? Oh, never mind.

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[url]http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=11408933[/url]

I thought a fine might be coming when I saw the hit. This is complete horse s. So now who's starting week one?

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Hopefully he appeals and gets it reduced like last time.

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[quote=mlmdub130;1079056][url=http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=11408933]NFL Brandon Meriweather suspended - ESPN[/url]

I thought a fine might be coming when I saw the hit. This is complete horse s. So now who's starting week one?[/quote]

This is absolutely insane getting a 2 game suspension for this bullsh*t. I cant understand how the league looks at the hit and others and cant see the improvement BM has made trying to avoid the tackle. How can he be responsible when the receiver happens to dip his head lower? just crap.

But to your question I would guess Trenton Robinson. Thomas is probably gonna get an injury settlement/waive.

I hope we look at cuts at SS and hope BM can appeal with a chance to reduce.

I wouldnt surprised if we might give Rambo a shot first at SS. I would be in total shock if we reach out to Doughty.

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Sadly Meriweather is a marked man and will continue to get penalized for nothing, even after this crap.

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[quote=Chico23231;1079060]This is absolutely insane getting a 2 game suspension for this bullsh*t. I cant understand how the league looks at the hit and others and cant see the improvement BM has made trying to avoid the tackle. How can he be responsible when the receiver happens to dip his head lower? just crap.

But to your question I would guess Trenton Robinson. Thomas is probably gonna get an injury settlement/waive.

I hope we look at cuts at SS and hope BM can appeal with a chance to reduce.

I wouldnt surprised if we might give Rambo a shot first at SS. I would be in total shock if we reach out to Doughty.[/quote]

What pisses me off the most is that I think, fine throw the flag in the field of play, but the office obviously looks at this shit. How can you look at that in a reply and think he was head hunting?

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Well, it is his 7th time? Not surprising the league is gone to suspensions again. The hit on Pierce was definitely the worse of the two in my book. The other one wasn't as bad to me. He led with the shoulder and did what a S should do. Maybe Flacco shouldn't get his WRs killed by throwing shitty passes to guys covered.


edit: Looking at it again, he did go high even though he led with the shoulder.

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