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Multiple times I counted to 7... 8... 9... while he held onto the ball. No one's open? Get rid of it. But, he took the sack. Or at the least a big hit.

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This defense has talent despite what most say, we were missing some players and contained SF. What pisses me off is the inconsistency. Did anyone see Boldin jawing with Haslett on the sidelines.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1095695]This defense has talent despite what most say, we were missing some players and contained SF. What pisses me off is the inconsistency. Did anyone see Boldin jawing with Haslett on the sidelines.[/QUOTE]


D played well enough to win, but San Frans offense isnt that good this year.


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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1095695]This defense has talent despite what most say, we were missing some players and contained SF. What pisses me off is the inconsistency. Did anyone see Boldin jawing with Haslett on the sidelines.[/QUOTE]
Yes...I did see Boldin yammering at Haslett....It looked really stupid... It's lucky that the Redskins didn't get penalized when Haslett pushed Boldin

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..........Haz pushed Boldin?

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[quote=punch it in;1095696]D played well enough to win, but San Frans offense isnt that good this year.


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We played them at their home minus Williams, Reed, Baker and Amerson. Lost Porter, Biggers and Heyward. I won't be too critical of RGIII with Moses getting worked by Smith. Believe or not I saw some good things like Philip Thomas and Ducre in addition to Morris, Hatcher, Keenan Robinson(was a beast).

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[quote=Hijinx;1095686][U] Jesus Christ Almighty will the pro-RG3 people stop making excuses for him!! [/U] [B]Show me his best play these last 2 games. [/B] It probably was where he handed the ball to Almo and managed to get the hell out of the way. He has not hit one pass down the field, I mean not one goddamn completion more than 12 yards. The only long pass plays are where the WR runs after the catch.

You can't keep saying oh well he didn't really cost us the game the D did, or the O-line,or the ball boy. A QB is not judged by how well he didn't lose the game, he is judged by how well he won you the game. Three 1st round and a 2nd round for a guy to hand to ball to Almo, I could fucking do that. Stop setting the bar so low and looking at this guy with rose colored glasses. [B]He is a bust.[/B][/quote]
I don't think he's a bust just not right in the system.

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Actually I need to retract my statement about RGIII needing to be on the bench.

Dude Draft a freaking tackle the guy was getting worked like Charles Mann was on the other side in his prime.

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Not going to win games in the NFL with 100 yards passing. Bench Griffin and put him out of his misery. That was atrocious today.

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[quote=Daseal;1095694]Multiple times I counted to 7... 8... 9... while he held onto the ball. No one's open? Get rid of it. But, he took the sack. Or at the least a big hit.[/quote]

Very difficult to believe considering the weapons we have invested for him. I saw a big difference in confidence between two QBs today who are quite often compared.

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The defense played up to 95% of its potential today. Hasletts best game maybe? The offense might be at 50% of its potential. Offensive line is garbage and neither RG/Gruden have what it takes to overcome it. RG was tough as nails today and I noticed cbs showed a lot of his WRs covered downfield. The only pass play where he had time was the early bomb to Jackson, perfect throw but Jackson bobbled it. Not many QBs can make those throws.

dDiscipline on offense is still abysmal, illegal formations and false starts and poor performance especially across the oline.

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As far as Griffin goes, its always darkest before the dawn - so it had better start dawning on him pretty quickly cuz these last two games were pretty dark.

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And at this point I'm certain Griffin's tenure here is almost over. We could allow him experience the rest of year - but suspect that will eventually lead to losing the locker room, unhappy WRs, and coach losing everyone. Wouldn't be surprised if we traded Griffin in offseason, although I could see us doing a prove-it last year of contract given low-risk and very few other QB options.


Questions:
1) How did P.Thomas play - I didn't get a chance to see much of him except fumble recovery.
2) What exactly did Amerson do to violate team rules? Seems strange to handicap the team on a big game like this, unless it was a big deal..

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[quote=ethat001;1095710]And at this point I'm certain Griffin's tenure here is almost over. We could allow him experience the rest of year - but suspect that will eventually lead to losing the locker room, unhappy WRs, and coach losing everyone. Wouldn't be surprised if we traded Griffin in offseason, although I could see us doing a prove-it last year of contract given low-risk and very few other QB options.


Questions:
1) How did P.Thomas play - I didn't get a chance to see much of him except fumble recovery.
2) What exactly did Amerson do to violate team rules? Seems strange to handicap the team on a big game like this, unless it was a big deal..[/quote]

David Amerson did not play for the Washington Redskins in their 17-13 loss to the San Francisco 49ers on Sunday because he missed at least part of a team meeting late last week, according to two people with knowledge of the situation.

It’s unclear whether Amerson, one of the Redskins’ two starting cornerbacks, was not present for the start of the meeting or missed it altogether. Coach Jay Gruden confirmed Amerson broke a team rule but did not share what he did when asked, saying only that “it’s just an in-house deal.”



Read more: [url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/23/david-amerson-will-miss-redskins-game-san-francisc/#ixzz3Jx3sDD4o]David Amerson misses Redskins' game at San Francisco - Washington Times[/url]
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Name one QB that can succeed behind this line?!??!?!
I will wait......

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Count me as one who won't give up on RGIII, Moses really didn't help his cause, they play one of the best defenses (if not the best in the NFL). Last year he was rushed back when he should have sat the 1st 5 games, this year he got hurt early and is learning to play out of the pocket. I know he's been horrible in some games, the FO gave up a lot for him and I say gamble and bring him back for next year. OL should be better with Moses and Long with a year under their belt, if necessary draft an OL or G with their draft pick. I would trade back and pick up more picks next year.

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[quote=tc2deuce;1095713]Name one QB that can succeed behind this line?!??!?!
I will wait......[/quote]

I can't answer this question because the line seems to be at least kinda decent when anyone without the name Griffin III on their jersey is QBing.

I don't remember the line being so awful when McCoy or even when Cousins was back there. Was the oline worlds better? Hell no, but they were at least you know, not looking confused and shit.

That's part of the reason why I wanna see more McCoy. If McCoy can get back there and put up 200+ yards and a couple of TDs a game at minimum, then I'd feel the fault would lay more on RG3 than the line. If McCoy gets back there and is running for his life, getting sacked, throwing INTs, then we kill 2 birds with one stone; McCoy and the line sucks as well and maybe RG3 is just a scapegoat for a bigger issue.

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RGIII is in the shotgun and then drops back 5 steps but yet still is pressured in 2.5 seconds

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It's time for bruce Allen to get out of the gm business.

I'm officially on the "time to get a new gm and yank personel decisions from bruce" track. Let him do the contracts, look for a new stadium and fight the name change duties. But fuck him and his choices. Time to bring in a new gm

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1095718]I can't answer this question because the line seems to be at least kinda decent when anyone without the name Griffin III on their jersey is QBing.

I don't remember the line being so awful when McCoy or even when Cousins was back there. Was the oline worlds better? Hell no, but they were at least you know, not looking confused and shit.

That's part of the reason why I wanna see more McCoy. If McCoy can get back there and put up 200+ yards and a couple of TDs a game at minimum, then I'd feel the fault would lay more on RG3 than the line. If McCoy gets back there and is running for his life, getting sacked, throwing INTs, then we kill 2 birds with one stone; McCoy and the line sucks as well and maybe RG3 is just a scapegoat for a bigger issue.[/quote]To be fair, Minnesota and SF have two of the best D lines that we will face all year. Starting McCoy may help in the short run, but do you really think he is the long term answer? We have to find out if Gruden can turn RG3 into a true WCO quarterback.

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[quote=tc2deuce;1095719]RGIII is in the shotgun and then drops back 5 steps but yet still is pressured in 2.5 seconds[/quote]

Did you not listen to a god damn thing being said this past week from the head coach and from other professionals that break down film? Apparently you had your head buried in the sand the entire time. Otherwise, you'd understand the answer to your question.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1095722]Did you not listen to a god damn thing being said this past week from the head coach and from other professionals that break down film? Apparently you had your head buried in the sand the entire time. Otherwise, you'd understand the answer to your question.[/quote]

Chill out girl!!

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I'm not big on the OL excuse myself, but it seemed like today RG3 was facing some pretty quick pressures more often than not.

Still, bottom line he needed to play a lot better.

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It's pretty odd Jay doesn't call out the oline.

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Put in Colt then start the search for the new coach.

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I'm not to sure I'm on the "Get rid of RGIII" Wagon just yet. Especially today. I'm sorry, but when his line looked so bad that they couldn't block a crawling baby, then it's not really on him. When the play calling really doesn't involve a pass play over 10 yards, not really on him... execution? ok, i'll give on that one. But when the skins O line keeps falling apart, it's not to surprising that we have a QB who is a little over cautious. I'm still hopeful. I think Gruden is a tool. He needs to shut his mouth and keep the dirty laundry behind closed doors. Not a fan of his.

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[quote=Rotten1980;1095723]Chill out girl!![/quote]

It gets very old after a while. Keep hearing year after year about how bad the OL looks, yet they amazingly seem to look 5 times better when somebody else is in there. Do we have OL issues? You damn right we do, but they don't outweigh the issues with the QB.

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[quote=tc2deuce;1095713]Name one QB that can succeed behind this line?!??!?!
I will wait......[/quote]
Luck
Brady
P. Manning
E. Manning
Brees
Ryan
Roethlisberger
Rodgers
Stafford
Rivers
Hoyer
Cutler
Kaepernick
Tannehill
Dalton
Flaco
Newton
Carr
McCoy
Cousins
Farve
Marino
Johnny Unitas' ghost
Half a dozen College QBs
my high school alma mater's QB
this guy Chuck that was in our 7 on 7 league last Saturday

I don't get you people, when professionals say that RG3 has regressed, that he is getting remedial things wrong, that he misses wide open WRs, what do you think? That they are all wrong, all of them? All these people who know more about the game than you do say that this guy isn't good, isn't getting better, and isn't looking like he is likely to ever get better. Professionals say this and you think they all are lying? Or what?

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[QUOTE=kj210;1095727]I'm not to sure I'm on the "Get rid of RGIII" Wagon just yet. Especially today. I'm sorry, but when his line looked so bad that they couldn't block a crawling baby, then it's not really on him. When the play calling really doesn't involve a pass play over 10 yards, not really on him... execution? ok, i'll give on that one. But when the skins O line keeps falling apart, it's not to surprising that we have a QB who is a little over cautious. I'm still hopeful. I think Gruden is a tool. He needs to shut his mouth and keep the dirty laundry behind closed doors. Not a fan of his.[/QUOTE]


Just because Griff does not throw a ball over 10 yards does not mean it wasnt called for. I suspect that as the experts break down the plays this week we will see yet more of the same. Wr's open downfield while Griff doesnt do his part.


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[quote=SouperMeister;1095721]To be fair, Minnesota and SF have two of the best D lines that we will face all year. Starting McCoy may help in the short run, but do you really think he is the long term answer? We have to find out if Gruden can turn RG3 into a true WCO quarterback.[/quote]

I don't think any of our QBs are the answer. I'm really all about slapping a band aid on this gaping wound and hoping it holds until the end of the season at this point.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1095728]It gets very old after a while. Keep hearing year after year about how bad the OL looks, yet they amazingly seem to look 5 times better when somebody else is in there. Do we have OL issues? You damn right we do, but they don't outweigh the issues with the QB.[/quote]

Put Colt in then put RG3 back in when he gets a concussion. The last sack fumble he had absolutely no ttime. He didnt have 3 step drop time.