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ethat001 01-06-2015 11:23 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1103515]Brian Mitchell says the skins should go get suh. Honestly I'd do it if we played the 43. What do yal think[/quote]

Come on, does ANYONE remember the last fat $100 million dollar man with a bad attitude who stepped on people's faces that came here to DC? I'd defer to McCloughan but sounds like a horrible idea.

Irrefutable 01-07-2015 12:18 AM

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A sleeper TE free agent.............. reportedly one of the best TE blockers

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgil_Green]Virgil Green - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-07-2015 01:39 AM

Re: All things off season 2015.
 
Mike Iupati is my dream FA signing.

punch it in 01-07-2015 10:41 AM

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This offseason could not have started better. Haz gone and a good GM? Wow. Plan going accordingly. Now lets adress the oline and the db's.

skinsfan69 01-07-2015 11:05 AM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1103588]Mike Iupati is my dream FA signing.[/quote]

I hope we pass on him. He'll be too expensive and he can't pass block.

Chico23231 01-07-2015 11:21 AM

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Giants fired DC Perry Fewell.

Fewell, 52, worked under coach Tom Coughlin for 10 seasons, spending five in Jacksonville from 1998-2002 and the last five as the Giants' defensive boss. Fewell's Giants units were top-10 in yards allowed in 2010 and 2013, but were bottom-five the other three seasons. The G-Men were particularly bad against the run this past season, finishing 30th and surrendering a league-worst 4.9 YPC.

I though Coughlin said no changes...and they're gonna do this:!!!


The Giants are expected to reach out to Ravens DBs coach Steve Spagnuolo regarding their defensive-coordinator vacancy.

It would be quite the reunion after Spagnuolo put himself on the map with a wildly successful two years as the Giants' defensive boss from 2007-2008. He was the mastermind of the defense that shut down Tom Brady and the 18-0 Patriots in the 2007 Super Bowl. Spagnuolo then became the head coach of the Rams in 2009, finishing with a pitiful 10-38 record across three seasons. His stint as the Saints' defensive coordinator in 2012 was abysmal, as the Saints fielded the worst defense of all-time in yards allowed. He's rehabbed his value in Baltimore.

Im sorry, Spags effing sux

over the mountain 01-07-2015 11:38 AM

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spags has done an amazing job making second half season adjustments with the ravens secondary this year.

outside of webb, i dont think any current secondary starters were even on the ravens roster week 1.

he has a bunch of JAGs who didnt work together in preseason playing as a cohesive unit.

Spags basically made has the same secondary talent that we do, but he is making it work. he even had the stones to sit highly drafted safety mike elam for poor performance ... and ended up being right.

REDSKINS4ever 01-07-2015 01:10 PM

Re: All things off season 2015.
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1103515]Brian Mitchell says the skins should go get suh. Honestly I'd do it if we played the 43. What do yal think[/quote]

I think there are other big, strong defensive tackles that can play the run well.....another thing is the Redskins coaches taking 4-3 personnel and placing them in a 3-4......we have to use our cap space wisely.....

Paintrain 01-07-2015 02:28 PM

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I've read a couple of places that with McC in the fold don't be surprised to see him dip into familiar waters to bring some former 49ers draft picks that could be free (Ahmad Brooks, Vernon Davis) as well as some Seahawks free agents (Byron Maxwell) but free agency being very measured and low key. No more big game hunting...thank GOD!

Ruhskins 01-07-2015 02:32 PM

Re: All things off season 2015.
 
[quote=Paintrain;1103677]I've read a couple of places that with McC in the fold don't be surprised to see him dip into familiar waters to bring some former 49ers draft picks that could be free (Ahmad Brooks, Vernon Davis) as well as some Seahawks free agents (Byron Maxwell) but free agency being very measured and low key. No more big game hunting...thank GOD![/quote]

Other than DJax (which was a good acquisition), when did we go big game hunting? I wouldn't consider Gracon that type of pick up; nor Hatcher.

Irrefutable 01-07-2015 02:46 PM

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[url=http://nfltraderumors.co/top-25-2015-nfl-free-agents/]NFL Trade Rumors - Top 50 - 2015 NFL Free Agents | NFL Trade Rumors[/url]

I hope they will sign 3-5 of the top 50 free agents ... OL, DE (4-3), DB

skinsguy 01-07-2015 02:46 PM

Re: All things off season 2015.
 
[quote=Paintrain;1103677]I've read a couple of places that with McC in the fold don't be surprised to see him dip into familiar waters to bring some former 49ers draft picks that could be free (Ahmad Brooks, Vernon Davis) as well as some Seahawks free agents (Byron Maxwell) but free agency being very measured and low key. No more big game hunting...thank GOD![/quote]

From what I've read, McCloughan likes to build teams through the draft, so I wouldn't expect him to dabble heavily into free agency. I mean, think about it, did he raid the San Fran roster when he came to Seattle? No, he built that team through the draft and supplemented a few places with free agency. I expect him to try and do the same thing with the Redskins. Now, he might grab one of those guys if the price is right, but he's not going to go crazy in free agency.

Although, it might do the 'skins some good to pick up Vernon Davis.

Lotus 01-07-2015 02:51 PM

Re: All things off season 2015.
 
[quote=Paintrain;1103677]I've read a couple of places that with McC in the fold don't be surprised to see him dip into familiar waters to bring some former 49ers draft picks that could be free (Ahmad Brooks, Vernon Davis) as well as some Seahawks free agents (Byron Maxwell) but free agency being very measured and low key. No more big game hunting...thank GOD![/quote]

I'm hoping on the flip side of this dynamic that the Shanahans, wherever they land, might be willing to offer something for folks that the Shanahans love but Gruden doesn't. Like Cousins, for just one example.

punch it in 01-07-2015 03:42 PM

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1103678]Other than DJax (which was a good acquisition), when did we go big game hunting? I wouldn't consider Gracon that type of pick up; nor Hatcher.[/QUOTE]


We did have our hands tied with the cap penalty and no first round picks to offer - ya never know we might have tried.

Lotus 01-07-2015 04:04 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1103693]We did have our hands tied with the cap penalty and no first round picks to offer - ya never know we might have tried.[/quote]

One thing I will say in favor of Bruce: since he came, contracts have been reasonable. No $100 mil. men. We overpaid for folks like Lauvao and Porter but not wildly so.

punch it in 01-07-2015 04:06 PM

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[QUOTE=Lotus;1103698]One thing I will say in favor of Bruce: since he came, contracts have been reasonable. No $100 mil. men. We overpaid for folks like Lauvao and Porter but not wildly so.[/QUOTE]


True. I dont think BA would have put on the safari hat was more thinking Danny boy.

SFREDSKIN 01-07-2015 09:56 PM

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This is what RGIII should be doing instead of seeing Terry Shea.

[url=http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/kaepernick-spend-11-weeks-working-warner-others]Kaepernick to spend 11 weeks working with Warner, others | CSN Bay Area[/url]

calia 01-08-2015 02:19 AM

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Id vote for Steve young.


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SFREDSKIN 01-08-2015 10:54 AM

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Could it be that Shanahan is bringing his boy with him to SF?

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000455399/article/cleveland-browns-kyle-shanahan-part-ways]Cleveland Browns, Kyle Shanahan part ways - NFL.com[/url]

Chico23231 01-08-2015 01:55 PM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/08/don-shula-calls-bill-belichick-beli-cheat/]Don Shula calls Bill Belichick “Beli-cheat” | ProFootballTalk[/url]

love it

calia 01-08-2015 02:01 PM

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The Mueller report on the ray Rice investigation just got released. They key conclusion: "As to the first question, despite extensive investigation, we have found no evidence that anyone at the League received or viewed the in-elevator video prior to its public release. Likewise, we have found no evidence of a woman at the League acknowledging receipt of that video in a voicemail message left on April 9, 2014.

With respect to the second question, we have identified the investigative steps that the League took in the wake of the Rice incident, steps that reflect the League’s longstanding practice of deferring to law enforcement—a practice that can foster an environment in which it is less important to understand precisely what a player did than to understand how and when the criminal justice system addresses the event. In this case, that deference led to deficiencies in the League’s collection and analysis of information during its investigation. We conclude that there was substantial information about the incident that should have put the League on notice of a need to undertake a more thorough investigation to obtain available evidence of precisely what occurred inside the elevator. Had the League done so, it may have uncovered additional information about the incident, possibly including the in-elevator video prior to its public release."

Bucket 01-08-2015 02:42 PM

Re: All things off season 2015.
 
Art Briles takes a shot at Gruden?

I mean.. I can see what he's saying, but how many wins does Briles have in the NFL?

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDlG1-XdTwI[/url]

Chico23231 01-08-2015 02:46 PM

Re: All things off season 2015.
 
[quote=Bucket;1103807]Art Briles takes a shot at Gruden?

I mean.. I can see what he's saying, but how many wins does Briles have in the NFL?

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDlG1-XdTwI[/url][/quote]

he's still butt hurt from being outcoached again on a major stage. he's garbage

Bucket 01-08-2015 02:59 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1103808]he's still butt hurt from being outcoached again on a major stage. he's garbage[/quote]

It's easy to say that Gruden should run an offense that works for him, but you can't run a NFL offense for a QB who constantly throws without Anticipation.

NC_Skins 01-08-2015 03:21 PM

Re: All things off season 2015.
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1103786]Could it be that Shanahan is bringing his boy with him to SF?

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000455399/article/cleveland-browns-kyle-shanahan-part-ways]Cleveland Browns, Kyle Shanahan part ways - NFL.com[/url][/quote]



Kyle taking his ball and going home. Word is he asked to be let go. Guess he wants no part of that Manziel shit show brewing this off-season.



A reenactment of Kyle's departure:


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HailGreen28 01-08-2015 03:35 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1103803][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/08/don-shula-calls-bill-belichick-beli-cheat/]Don Shula calls Bill Belichick “Beli-cheat” | ProFootballTalk[/url]

love it[/quote]Really wish the 2007 Pats had gone 19-0, just so Shula and Morris can't say theirs is the only undefeated team.

NYCskinfan82 01-08-2015 04:06 PM

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I didn't see that way. I think he was right when he said backing your QB Gruden hasn't done that he did it for Cousins but not RGIII.

Skinzman 01-08-2015 04:11 PM

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[quote=HailGreen28;1103813]Really wish the 2007 Pats had gone 19-0, just so Shula and Morris can't say theirs is the only undefeated team.[/quote]

Given that the Pats decided to beat people as bad as possible as some sort of a defense that since we didnt need to do it, that makes it ok to do it. Im glad the Giants beat them.

18-1 without winning the SB had to sting much worse that being accused of cheating. I loved every minute of it and still do. One of the very few times I have rooted for the Giants.

Lotus 01-08-2015 04:19 PM

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[quote=Skinzman;1103818]Given that the Pats decided to beat people as bad as possible as some sort of a defense that since we didnt need to do it, that makes it ok to do it. Im glad the Giants beat them.

[B]18-1 without winning the SB had to sting much worse that being accused of cheating. I loved every minute of it and still do. One of the very few times I have rooted for the Giants.[/B][/quote]

Word. It was the only time I ever cheered a Burress touchdown but my oh my did I cheer.

Giantone 01-08-2015 04:35 PM

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[quote=HailGreen28;1103813]Really wish the 2007 Pats had gone 19-0, just so Shula and Morris can't say theirs is the only undefeated team.[/quote]


I admit I was happy with the way it turned out .:)

over the mountain 01-08-2015 04:45 PM

Re: All things off season 2015.
 
[quote=calia;1103805]The Mueller report on the ray Rice investigation just got released. They key conclusion: "As to the first question, despite extensive investigation, we have found no evidence that anyone at the League received or viewed the in-elevator video prior to its public release. Likewise, we have found no evidence of a woman at the League acknowledging receipt of that video in a voicemail message left on April 9, 2014.

With respect to the second question, we have identified the investigative steps that the League took in the wake of the Rice incident, steps that reflect the League’s longstanding practice of deferring to law enforcement—a practice that can foster an environment in which it is less important to understand precisely what a player did than to understand how and when the criminal justice system addresses the event. In this case, that deference led to deficiencies in the League’s collection and analysis of information during its investigation. We conclude that there was substantial information about the incident that should have put the League on notice of a need to undertake a more thorough investigation to obtain available evidence of precisely what occurred inside the elevator. Had the League done so, it may have uncovered additional information about the incident, possibly including the in-elevator video prior to its public release."[/quote]

[url=http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/09/24/nfl-selection-robert-mueller-compromises-investigation/6umRckSD75On82k4mB25SN/story.html]Robert Mueller choice compromises NFL investigation - Sports - The Boston Globe[/url]

the NFL as an organization is just odd to me at this point. they seem to act late and then over-react.

why even have an investigation in the first place? if it was done to appease fans and to dispel the appearance of incompetence .... why choose a person with heavy prior involvement repping the NFL and has ties to ravens pres Cass?

HailGreen28 01-08-2015 08:41 PM

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[quote=Skinzman;1103818]Given that the Pats decided to beat people as bad as possible as some sort of a defense that since we didnt need to do it, that makes it ok to do it. Im glad the Giants beat them.

18-1 without winning the SB had to sting much worse that being accused of cheating. I loved every minute of it and still do. One of the very few times I have rooted for the Giants.[/quote]
[quote=Lotus;1103819]Word. It was the only time I ever cheered a Burress touchdown but my oh my did I cheer.[/quote]
[quote=Giantone;1103822]I admit I was happy with the way it turned out .:)[/quote]
I hate you all. :)
Well, except giant1. Hating him for his posts, is kind of like booing at the Special Olympics. ;)

Giantone 01-09-2015 03:59 AM

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Nope .

KI Skins Fan 01-09-2015 07:57 AM

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RGIII needs to realize that Coach Briles, Terry Shea, Daddy, and others who stroke his ego and make him feel good about himself can't help him now. They are irrelevant to his success as a QB on a Jay Gruden coached team. Gruden will pay absolutely zero attention to what any of them has to say about how RGIII should be used or the way he should be coached. RGIII will play in the Gruden system and be coached in the way Gruden coaches his QB's - period. End of story.

Robert first needs to realize that his career is in jeopardy. Then he needs to focus on doing exactly what Gruden wants him to accomplish over the off-season and nothing else - and I mean nothing else, including vacations, promotional appearances, etc. If he can, he needs to cram three off-seasons worth of work into one.

RGIII needs to change. As long as he works for Jay Gruden, he needs to do what he is told to do as a professional QB by his boss - and only his boss. Then maybe, just maybe, he'll have a shot at one day becoming the NFL player he no doubt hopes to become.

Meanwhile, Kirk Cousins will be working his tail off to get better in Gruden's system.

Ruhskins 01-09-2015 09:58 AM

Re: All things off season 2015.
 
[quote=Bucket;1103807]Art Briles takes a shot at Gruden?

I mean.. I can see what he's saying, but how many wins does Briles have in the NFL?

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDlG1-XdTwI[/url][/quote]

This is so irrelevant, and I hate that the idiots over at ESPN980 spend all afternoon talking about this.

budw38 01-09-2015 10:52 AM

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12140365/ex-miami-dolphins-fullback-rob-konrad-swims-9-miles-fall]Ex-Miami Dolphins fullback Rob Konrad swims 9 miles after fall - ESPN[/url] Former Dolphin falls off his boat and swims 9 miles to beach .... crazy and lucky to be alive if true .

Chico23231 01-09-2015 04:47 PM

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/11153/browns-text-message-issue-with-nfl-a-bad-look]Cleveland Browns' text message issue with NFL a bad look - ESPN[/url]

Earlier this week, a Cleveland.com report about former offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan included a sentence about how Shanahan was disenchanted by a non-coaching Browns employee suggesting play calls to the sideline via text. If that's remotely true, that's pretty shameful. How an organization even has an outlet for something like that undercuts the coaching staff big time. If I were Shanahan, I'd be upset, too. Simply can't let some exec try to call plays.


Man, this is terrible. Kyle couldnt escape being undercut by calling his own plays in Washington or in Cleveland...

Amazing the douchebags in the cleveland front office would allow this...

Lotus 01-09-2015 04:50 PM

Re: All things off season 2015.
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1103867]RGIII needs to realize that Coach Briles, Terry Shea, Daddy, and others who stroke his ego and make him feel good about himself can't help him now. They are irrelevant to his success as a QB on a Jay Gruden coached team. Gruden will pay absolutely zero attention to what any of them has to say about how RGIII should be used or the way he should be coached. RGIII will play in the Gruden system and be coached in the way Gruden coaches his QB's - period. End of story.

Robert first needs to realize that his career is in jeopardy. Then he needs to focus on doing exactly what Gruden wants him to accomplish over the off-season and nothing else - and I mean nothing else, including vacations, promotional appearances, etc. If he can, he needs to cram three off-seasons worth of work into one.

RGIII needs to change. As long as he works for Jay Gruden, he needs to do what he is told to do as a professional QB by his boss - and only his boss. Then maybe, just maybe, he'll have a shot at one day becoming the NFL player he no doubt hopes to become.

Meanwhile, Kirk Cousins will be working his tail off to get better in Gruden's system.[/quote]

You are correct.

HailGreen28 01-09-2015 06:00 PM

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Heard a funny joke about SBXLVIII.

"What did the Seattle Seahawks do after winning the Super Bowl?"

"Played the second half."

Chico23231 01-12-2015 10:23 AM

Re: All things off season 2015.
 
It would cost the Eagles more to cut Riley Cooper than it would to keep him.

One year ago, the Eagles laughably gave Cooper a $22.5M contract with $10M guaranteed. He predictably face-planted in 2014, pathetically recording a 55-577-3 line with a 2.9 YAC average despite playing on 81.9 percent of the snaps in Chip Kelly's spread offense. P[B]ro Football Focus graded Cooper as their worst wideout among 110 qualifiers[/B]. They'd be insane not to hand Jordan Matthews the starting job next year, but cutting Cooper would result in $6.2M of dead money against the cap. Keeping him around (likely as a blocker) will cost $4.8M against the cap.

per rotoworld

lol why in the hell did they pay Riley Cooper and cut D Jax? It makes zero sense...you remember when the talking heads were picking the Eagles to be in the superbowl in the preseason...their roster is in worse shape than most think. Great to see


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