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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1105999]It's funny Morris is not good enough for skins fans, yet he is good enough for Dan Quinn as a senior assistant.[/quote]

In the NFL coaching circles, one man's trash is always another man's treasure...

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Much like QBs, I think fans tend to give coaches way too much credit and too much blame. Morris is a good coach who obviously will have no problem landing on his feet after his time here.

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[quote=Mattyk;1106020]Much like QBs, I think fans tend to give coaches way too much credit and too much blame. Morris is a good coach who obviously will have no problem landing on his feet after his time here.[/quote]

This. Outside of of the random coach who "loses" his players with poor leadership I think the effect of coaching (especially position coaches) is pretty overrated at the pro level.

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Kind of funny that Kyle and Raheem may be reunited down in Atlanta. Wish them both well

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Agree with all of the above. No one here, except people in the locker room (and probably SmootSmack) -- really knows who was at fault for the horrible defenses we've recently seen. Lack of Talent? Haslett being too complex? Morris not coaching/developing players?

It's just simply that this organization has consistently made the WRONG decisions over the past 20 years, which is why it's natural to question the hiring of Barry (ie. the worst NFL D-Coordinator in the last decade) and questioning the merits of reincarnating an unsuccessful Tampa Bay organization from 10 years ago.. Barry's last DC stint may have failed due to their lack of talent, but this one will be *completely different* because somehow we currently have TONS of talent on our defense.

As has been said, I'll buy in, wait & see. I'm hoping McC drafts 7 ProBowlers, I'm hoping GRiffin becomes RG3 again, and I'm hoping there's some clever addition by subtraction..


And maybe -- we should just start cheating like the Patriots, it works and is better than talking about the draft this time of year every year..

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All I know is Ryan Clark said the schemes at times last year were "dumbed down" to the point of almost being high school. I mean if players can't execute basic concepts such as a cover 2, you've got big problems.

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New Redskins GM Scot McCloughan is attempting to add Packers senior personnel executive Alonzo Highsmith to his front office.

Per rotoworld

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[quote=Mattyk;1106029]All I know is Ryan Clark said the schemes at times last year were "dumbed down" to the point of almost being high school. I mean if players can't execute basic concepts such as a cover 2, you've got big problems.[/quote]

Truth.


Which is why I didn't think having Fangio rolling up into here was going to amount to much. That said, I still wanted any part of that defense from Mike's regime gone. Coaches have to be accountable as well.

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[quote=Mattyk;1106020]Much like QBs, I think fans tend to give coaches way too much credit and too much blame. Morris is a good coach who obviously will have no problem landing on his feet after his time here.[/quote]

I agree on coaches getting to much credit or blame. With QB's I believe they control it all. Give us Brady and we are a contender next year.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1106048]I agree on coaches getting to much credit or blame. With QB's I believe they control it all. Give us Brady and we are a contender next year.[/quote]

Not even close. The biggest myth perpetuated by fans is that Tom somehow carries the Patriots. Belichick has surrounded Tom with very good talent his whole career.


Here is what a Patriots fan answered when this question was asked:

Q: What is a pet peeve you have about your favorite team that fellow fans tend to ignore/support?


A: Fans who don't understand that Belichick has surrounded Brady with very talented teams.


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Neither Brady, Rodgers, Luck, nor Manning would make this team a contender.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1106051]Not even close. The biggest myth perpetuated by fans is that Tom somehow carries the Patriots. Belichick has surrounded Tom with very good talent his whole career.


Here is what a Patriots fan answered when this question was asked:

Q: What is a pet peeve you have about your favorite team that fellow fans tend to ignore/support?


A: Fans who don't understand that Belichick has surrounded Brady with very talented teams.


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Neither Brady, Rodgers, Luck, nor Manning would make this team a contender.[/quote]

We will see what happens when Brady retires

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1106052]We will see what happens when Brady retires[/quote]


You know he went 11-5 the year Tom was out with a torn ACL right?

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[quote=NC_Skins;1106053]You know he went 11-5 the year Tom was out with a torn ACL right?[/quote]

We won our division 2 years ago. That was an aberration that everyone points to. The Redskins have sucked for twenty years, because we haven't had a QB. If Rodgers were here we would win our division next year.

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Give them Beck, Campbel, Grossman, Ramsey, and the rest of crap we have put out there.

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The Washington Redskins have requested permission to speak with Green Bay Packers senior personnel executive Alonzo Highsmith Sr. about their director of personnel job vacancy.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1106051]Not even close. The biggest myth perpetuated by fans is that Tom somehow carries the Patriots. Belichick has surrounded Tom with very good talent his whole career.

Here is what a Patriots fan answered when this question was asked:

Q: What is a pet peeve you have about your favorite team that fellow fans tend to ignore/support?

A: Fans who don't understand that Belichick has surrounded Brady with very talented teams.

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Neither Brady, Rodgers, Luck, nor Manning would make this team a contender.[/quote]

Belicheat hasn't always given Brady talent. Let's not forget the year that Brady's best target was Reche Caldwell or how they never have a established RB (although they may have that with Blount now).

That being said, Belicheat has gone 11-5 without Brady.

Rodgers or Brees would make our team a solid team, possibly a contender; Luck maybe. Brady and Manning could technically, but these are guys that are used to having things in place.

However, our team has always put a young, inexperience, or mediocre QB behind a terrible line with no support from the defense or special teams. Our team is never going to win until they improve the o-line, defense, and special teams; and have these units help in the development of the QB.

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While watching the Pro-bowl last night, they showed TW talking to Smith OT for the cowgurls. I swore I heard him asking about Callahan and Smith said he's OK.

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[quote=Chico23231;1106031]New Redskins GM Scot McCloughan is attempting to add Packers senior personnel executive Alonzo Highsmith to his front office.

Per rotoworld[/quote]

Huh? Is this the same guy that played for University of Miami back in the 80's?? I assume he must be working for someone's front office.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1106053]You know he went 11-5 the year Tom was out with a torn ACL right?[/quote]

Brady is the number one reason the Patriots have had sustained success. Not BB. End of discussion. Matt Cassel was fortunate to play for an 18-1 team that was coming off one of the best seasons ever. That was still a very strong team. See what happened to Cassel once he left NE?

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Attention, Raheem Morris has left the building:

[quote]HogsHaven.com ‏@HogsHaven · 25m25 minutes ago
Report: Raheem Morris Verbally Accepts Deal to Be Falcons Assistant Head Coach [url=http://sbnation.com/e/7672040]Report: Raheem Morris Verbally Accepts Deal to Be Falcons Assistant Head Coach - Hogs Haven[/url] [/quote]

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Belechick makes back ups look like starters.
But without Brady things would have been a lot different.
Brady is to the NFL what Patton was to tank warfare.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1106093]Attention, Raheem Morris has left the building:[/quote]

So Quinn thought enough of Morriss to make him his Asst. HC. Hmmm..

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Do we love him now?
We wanted to hang his ass 30 days ago.....

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1106093]Attention, Raheem Morris has left the building:[/quote]

Thank goodness. Not so much because I thought he was a terrible coach, more that I'm just glad that keeping Morris wasn't a factor in not getting Fangio.

Hard to tell if Morris did an average job or a bad job if you ask me. Talent was dreck.

But at least we can say he didn't spin straw into gold, so you can't say he did a good job. He got dreck out of dreck, at best an average job.

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if we had brady, we'd be a 10 win team.

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[quote=Hog1;1106098]Do we love him now?
We wanted to hang his ass 30 days ago.....[/quote]

I don't. You can't have a secondary that clueless and say that the coach wasn't part of the problem. Consider it like having a suspicious mole removed just in case.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1106093]Attention, Raheem Morris has left the building:[/quote]

Bon voyage Mr. Morris and thank you for your time and service.

Like everyone has said ... hard to know what he did and didnt do as a casual observer looking in from the outside.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1106090]Huh? Is this the same guy that played for University of Miami back in the 80's?? I assume he must be working for someone's front office.[/quote]

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2015/01/25/redskins-interested-in-packers-executive-alonzo-highsmith/]Redskins interested in Packers executive Alonzo Highsmith - The Washington Post[/url]

yup. Hopefully Green Bay lets him inteview

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1106102]I don't. You can't have a secondary that clueless and say that the coach wasn't part of the problem. Consider it like having a suspicious mole removed just in case.[/quote]
His results were not....awesome

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On to the next scapegoat!

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1106102]I don't. You can't have a secondary that clueless and say that the coach wasn't part of the problem. Consider it like having a suspicious mole removed just in case.[/quote]


This. Morris may be a perfectly good coach. He is not to blame when a player gets beaten physically - that's a talent problem.

But we've had an unacceptably high number of missed assignments, blown coverages, bonehead plays, etc., over the last few years. Coaches are supposed to correct that stuff.

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Context matters a lot when it comes to performance. Sometimes, a person will shine in one place and bomb in another. At this point, keeping RM didn't feel right to me--simply a house-cleaning thing.

Everyone agrees we need loads more talent across the D, so don't expect any miracles. Building takes time. I hope Barry can redeem himself and I hope that JayG can learn and grow. But all that is moot without McC and co getting some serious players here. And even if he drafts well this year, we have to develop the new guys. That, too, has been a failing here. Draft, develop, keep. Repeat as necessary.

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[quote=Lotus;1106118]This. Morris may be a perfectly good coach. He is not to blame when a player gets beaten physically - that's a talent problem.

But we've had an unacceptably high number of missed assignments, blown coverages, bonehead plays, etc., over the last few years. Coaches are supposed to correct that stuff.[/quote]

The secondary didn't get abysmally bad until Raheem showed up. Don't get me wrong the entire defense was bad but the secondary stood out as the worst of the worst as soon as Morris starting "coaching" them.

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Why couldnt Morris coach up and develop the talent? We spent numerous draft picks in a short amount of time in the secondary.

Eff Morris

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Breeland worked out. Amerson is still a work in progress. Not sure the safety spots were ever really addressed with quality talent. Thomas and Rambo were both later rd picks for a reason.

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[quote=Chico23231;1106141]Why couldnt Morris coach up and develop the talent? We spent numerous draft picks in a short amount of time in the secondary.

Eff Morris[/quote]

What talent?

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Amerson was the only day 1 pick we used on the secondary the last 5+ years but we're supposed to believe there was real talent to work with? Please.

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Can't coach Clark to run faster or BM to cover better. We really didn't have a free safety at all, and barely a strong, at least against the pass. Not a lot of talent. No, sir.

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[quote=JWsleep;1106146]Can't coach Clark to run faster or BM to cover better. We really didn't have a free safety at all, and barely a strong, at least against the pass. Not a lot of talent. No, sir.[/quote]

I think the line and the corners both looked worse simply because our safeties couldn't handle their responsibilities effectively. Not saying that either the line or the cb's are top tier, but I absolutely believe that with minimal safety help all NFL cb's would look bad. Same with the pass rush, that split second difference between getting the qb and a completed pass is often how long the qb had to hesitate due to quality safeties.

Still want our picks in the first two rounds to be best can't miss RT and S. Hopefully Scot's college study will help us get two long term starters there. That would be a successful draft, regardless of the rest of the draft. (Of course I do want more than that)

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Per JLC, we have interest in Nathaniel Hackett as QB coach. He was OC for the Bills last year.

@JasonLaCanfora: Nathaniel Hackett has a 2nd interview for Rams OC job this week. BUF wants him back and WSH and JAX also interested in him for QB coach.