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[quote=Mattyk;1117335]I know the mob doesn't want to hear it but you can't pull the plug on Griffin this early. Unless he can't play due to injury you have to give him a real shot and see how things play out into the season. This is the spot we're in... buckle up.[/quote]

I'm fine with this, but these are some of the issues in doing so.


1) How can you tell 50+ players they have to earn their starting spot and allow one guy to be given via silver platter? You'll lose the locker room and trust from players immediately.

2) How long do you allow him to start if no major signs of progression go on? This is another way you'll lose the locker room. Sacrificing the team to benefit the development of one guy.

3) His option year is guaranteed for injury. Do you allow him to play the 2nd half of the season knowing a major injury will put you on the hook for 16mil next year?


I agree with the principle of it, but I'm not sure how you can get the team to buy into it. Hell, they had problems buying into last year, which is a good reason why we were 4-12.

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Shanahan is about himself and nothing more. Anything he says about the Skins will be slanted to cast him in the best light or.......an outright lie.
Whichever makes him look better.

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Gruden isn't running a different offense depending on the player, he isn't necessarily running an offense that fits RG3 though.

RG3 threw up all over himself on few plays Thursday. He either isn't making good presnap reads, or one move by the defense is causing chaos in his brain. He knows the line play isn't good, and he still isn't getting rid of the ball. He also isn't sliding laterally at all, there is alot to look at and just not like.

As for Shanahan, he didn't improve our personnel. I mean they are rebuilding from his rebuilding.

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[quote=WillH;1117406]

[url]https://vine.co/v/eDQHUAOnuXA[/url]

WOW!

Yeah, I've missed both preseason games, and when I read everyone's comments this is what I pictured. . . then I watched the highlights. He had no protection.

I don't know, maybe some of it his his "fault," but I imagine if this is an area that he needs to improve on, it must be pretty tough to do that when you get lit up every play after 3 seconds.

I'm just hoping our run game can get going early this season and take some pressure off of RG3 so that we stand some chance of getting something out of him.[/quote]

To be honest, I am not sure that the protection will or will not make a difference. Common sense says it would. I just wanted to show what a struggling QB looks with good protection. What was saw last week was just brutal.

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From what I understand about the preseason, teams don't necessarily run an offense or do anything that could give opponents the opportunity to get any trends on what might be done. Teams run base plays and the coaches look for execution. Success is determined on how well players execute.

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[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/08/24/kurt-warner-redskins-offensive-struggles-werent-about-rgiii/"]Kurt Warner: Redskins' offensive struggles weren't about Griffin[/URL]

[quote]"There were some things that I saw on tape where you could easily say if Robert maybe went to the other side on a couple of those reads, he could have got the ball out a little bit quicker,” Warner told old friend Dan Hellie on NFL Network. “But I think we have to be honest when we look at the tape, and say this wasn’t RGIII’s fault, for the most part. He wasn’t back there holding onto the ball, hitching, looking both directions. He was back there, he was dropping, he was trying to get the ball out of his hands, and his offensive line really, really struggled [Thursday] night."[/quote]

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[quote=Hog1;1117411]Shanahan is about himself and nothing more. Anything he says about the Skins will be slanted to cast him in the best light or.......an outright lie.
Whichever makes him look better.[/quote]

Not really. He didn't say anything bad in the interview, and mind you, they asked him about it.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/08/24/oh-hey-mike-shanahan-is-talking-about-rgiii-again/[/url]


[quote]“To be honest with you, you don’t get to study him on a day-to-day basis,” Shanahan said. “I don’t look at his film every day. But I can give you an opinion after my first year when I was there: you get a guy like Robert who’s been with an offense, very comfortable with what he did in college. He never had a playbook. Never had two-level throws or three-level throws. So you could see very quickly that was going to take some time.

“But you had a guy that had some great athletic skills, a guy that was very smart, a guy that was into the game,” Shanahan said. “And what you try to do is utilize those talents and go with it. You know, some guys, at the end of the season — like Robert did — he felt like he was a little bit more of a drop-back passer than a few of us thought. And now he’s going to have a chance to go out and prove himself.”[/quote]

He's accurate. It's why I would never draft a spread offense QB highly and expect anything soon.

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kurt warner also got hit like 4 million times while playing, so i'm not sure he's the best guy to ask about that.

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[quote=That Guy;1117420]kurt warner also got hit like 4 million times while playing, so i'm not sure he's the best guy to ask about that.[/quote]

If Kurt Warner isn't credible then who is? He has more knowledge about football and the quarterback position than all the posters here combine. I'm not saying that Robert doesn't deserve some criticism for the way our offense performed. But that line didn't give him much of a chance.

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Unfortunately, anyway you look at it the poor guy is doomed. First of all most of us I think can agree that Robert was indeed a systems QB out of Baylor. Systems QBs in Div IA are not really being prepped for the pros. Leinart from USC is the best example by far. Second of all, this kid was really overhyped. Yes he was an extremely good athlete, but the hype he received was out of this world. I thought the Carr, Harrington, then Leinart and Young hype jobs were over the top, but they don't hold a candle to what the media did to hype up RGIII. This kid didn't stand a chance of living up to it. Even his ROY season couldn't totally match the hype. This not coming close to living up to that hype is the source of the "hating". On top of the hype, and the fact he wasn't really groomed for the NFL, he got drafted by a mess of an organization, that didn't know anything about building a real contender. As we saw this past Thursday night, our line without Trent sucks, and let's be honest Trent gets banged up often. Even with Trent in there, it is an average line at best. In fact, Trent is the only true starter we have on our O line. The rest are nothing more than second stringers thrown out there due to FO incompetence of the last decade. This fact alone almost guarantees that Robert will only survive through week 5 only by the grace of the Almighty. If Suh and co come in real hungry he might not last past week 1. Couple the fact that the o line is horribly outclassed and the fact that RGIII really hasn't shown enough improvement thus far in the preseason, I don't think he is going to be upright past week 5. IF I was Scotty M, I also wouldn't draft a QB in 2016, but do some great scouting for more offensive linemen in the first two rounds. Any new rook we get is still going to get killed with the boobs we have on our line. Shore up the offensive line before we go for another young gun. We don't need to ruin more young QBs like Patrick and now Robert because of wrong schemes/bad offensive lines.

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[quote=Skins4L;1117403]cousins is so inconsistent dude. get off the cousins wagon. if RG cant stay healthy and perform we wont be any good. cousins is a career backup mark my words. highly inconsistent. we learned last year vs NYG he doesn't make reads he just slings to the primary of jays playcall dude. so some games he may sling for 400 but hes just dropping and throwing with no read. take a look at that, I almost never see him work thru his progression at all.[/quote]

I will say in my opinion only(that aint worth much)..that in 3 years from now Cousins will still be in league playing and RGlll will be distant memory..in fact i do not believe that there is one team in the league that would trade a 5th round pick for RGlll …i believe that RGlll will not last 3 games into reg season..do i like bashing Him…NO but I have seen enough! funny there are a lot of ex players and coaches around the league saying this…Brian Mitchell tells it like it is..period! RGlll talent is his athletic ability he was great his first year before all the injuries. they are trying to mold him into something he is not..there lies the issue. he is to gimpy to do what he does best and to stubborn to change, that equals bad QB play no matter what OL you are behind..great thing about Football is we will all get to watch how this unfolds..

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Cousins will get his shot by week 6 in my opinion, then we will see if he is the real deal. I am not going to get on Kirk's bandwagon at all till I see some improvement over a period of say 5-6 games. Michigan State QBs usually make great backups in the NFL, but are not starting material. Scotty might just go for a QB in 2016, but I wish he would strengthen the offensive line first before he drafts another QB.

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What do you guys think about Zach Mettenberger? possible somebody we could trade for??

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1117396]You and I both know that ain't gonna happen. RGIII has been annointed from above to be the starter and apparently fair competition is not to be allowed.[/quote]

Robert is Mr. Snyder's golden boy(marketing scheme), as well as the most athletic QB of the 3 on the roster. Coupled with the fact of the price we paid to acquire him, the organization rather play out the sad tragedy that is probably going to unfold when Robert, gets hurt. If he gets hurt the organization can save some face and move on without admitting he was a total bust.

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[quote=rocnrik;1117429]What do you guys think about Zach Mettenberger? possible somebody we could trade for??[/quote]

Hes no better than what we have in our backup barn.
I'm willing to wait for cuts and or next years draft to refill the QB position.
Lets not burn anymore draft picks for this year.

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[quote=rocnrik;1117429]What do you guys think about Zach Mettenberger? possible somebody we could trade for??[/quote]

Personally, like I have stated before, I don't think we should even entertain acquiring a top QB before we rebuild the line. After Trent goes, we have a bunch of scrubs to deal with. I would rebuild the line next season then draft a QB in 2017. We need new scouting dept folks.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1117410]I'm fine with this, but these are some of the issues in doing so.


1) How can you tell 50+ players they have to earn their starting spot and allow one guy to be given via silver platter? You'll lose the locker room and trust from players immediately.

2) How long do you allow him to start if no major signs of progression go on? This is another way you'll lose the locker room. Sacrificing the team to benefit the development of one guy.

3) His option year is guaranteed for injury. Do you allow him to play the 2nd half of the season knowing a major injury will put you on the hook for 16mil next year?


I agree with the principle of it, but I'm not sure how you can get the team to buy into it. Hell, they had problems buying into last year, which is a good reason why we were 4-12.[/quote]

Gruden is banking on him not being upright for long. Looking at the schedule, if Robert lasts past week 5-6 it will be a miracle.

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[quote=Flyer97;1117424]Unfortunately, anyway you look at it the poor guy is doomed. First of all most of us I think can agree that Robert was indeed a systems QB out of Baylor. Systems QBs in Div IA are not really being prepped for the pros. Leinart from USC is the best example by far. Second of all, this kid was really overhyped. Yes he was an extremely good athlete, but the hype he received was out of this world. I thought the Carr, Harrington, then Leinart and Young hype jobs were over the top, but they don't hold a candle to what the media did to hype up RGIII. This kid didn't stand a chance of living up to it. Even his ROY season couldn't totally match the hype. This not coming close to living up to that hype is the source of the "hating". On top of the hype, and the fact he wasn't really groomed for the NFL, he got drafted by a mess of an organization, that didn't know anything about building a real contender. As we saw this past Thursday night, our line without Trent sucks, and let's be honest Trent gets banged up often. Even with Trent in there, it is an average line at best. In fact, Trent is the only true starter we have on our O line. The rest are nothing more than second stringers thrown out there due to FO incompetence of the last decade. This fact alone almost guarantees that Robert will only survive through week 5 only by the grace of the Almighty. If Suh and co come in real hungry he might not last past week 1. Couple the fact that the o line is horribly outclassed and the fact that RGIII really hasn't shown enough improvement thus far in the preseason, I don't think he is going to be upright past week 5. IF I was Scotty M, I also wouldn't draft a QB in 2016, but do some great scouting for more offensive linemen in the first two rounds. Any new rook we get is still going to get killed with the boobs we have on our line. Shore up the offensive line before we go for another young gun. We don't need to ruin more young QBs like Patrick and now Robert because of wrong schemes/bad offensive lines.[/quote]

The offensive line is a lot better than what you are giving credit for. Kirk had 8 sacks in 6 games last year as opposed to 33 in 7 games by Robert. The OL is fine. Is it the best? Absolutely not, but it's enough to make a 6th round RB look like a star the past 3 years. Also, our line is rated better than the Patriots as well.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1117435]The offensive line is a lot better than what you are giving credit for. Kirk had 8 sacks in 6 games last year as opposed to 33 in 7 games by Robert. The OL is fine. Is it the best? Absolutely not, but it's enough to make a 6th round RB look like a star the past 3 years. Also, our line is rated better than the Patriots as well.[/quote]

Didn't look so hot at home on Thursday night. Why was it so utterly dominated? The Lions D is good, but they totally made our line look inept and unprepared. Are the conspiracy folks right in that they were bad intentionally to send Robert a message? I know Robert has some blame for him being treated like a rag doll, but the line did suck bad! Even if the line does shore up some come week 1 against the Dolphins I am not sure Robert is going to stay healthy for long.

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Stop spreading your toxicity. I swear people should be banned for saying stupid shit like "Jay is planning on Robert being injured"

If you honestly believe a football coach wants a QB hurt so he can play another makes you insane.

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[quote=Bucket;1117438]Stop spreading your toxicity. I swear people should be banned for saying stupid shit like "Jay is planning on Robert being injured"

If you honestly believe a football coach wants a QB hurt so he can play another makes you insane.[/quote]

Not saying planning on it, but maybe anticipating it. I think last year's drama should have made it plainly evident that Gruden doesn't want RG III to be the starter but is hamstrung by his boss. If RG III really hasn't improved do you think he is going to last past week 6 given our schedule? I don't think coach Gruden wants to see RG III hurt at all, but I think he might be anticipating the odds of Robert going down if there is no significant progression come week 1. I mean face it, if Robert keeps running into the open arms of those Miami Defensive linemen do you think he is going to last long?

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[quote=Bucket;1117438]Stop spreading your toxicity. I swear people should be banned for saying stupid shit like "Jay is planning on Robert being injured"

If you honestly believe a football coach wants a QB hurt so he can play another makes you insane.[/quote]

Also that is not toxicity, that is speculation, and not just on my part. Many folks on NFL.com asked that same question during and after the game on the game thread and the RG III injury article thread. I am not the only Skins fan that was outright startled at the inept line play. Gruden stated that the only way Robert loses the starting job is via injury and it is common knowledge that Gruden isn't a big fan, thus an opening for a conspiracy theory of sorts. I don't think Gruden wants him hurt on purpose, he is the best athlete of the 3 QBs out there, but he definitely anticipates it if Robert doesn't show any progression come opening game day.

Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

Griffin is a R/O QB. I don't care if Gruden refuses to play that system or if RGIII refuses to play it. Get rid of them both if this is case.

Gruden has been a subpar coach and while shanahan's downfall is his ego over player personnel (especially when he doesn't know anything about defensive personnel) at least he recognized the only way to succeed with RG was running R/O

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[quote=30gut;1117409]Since Mike S is back trying to re-write history about Griffin and the read-option 2013:

[YT]watch?v=zJHxYM8GDTs[/YT][/quote]

Holy crap where has that guy gone?? On those dropbacks he looks so comfortable,he's sliding away from pressure,he just looks like a totally different qb then he does now.His mechanics and instincts now look like shit compared to then

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[quote=NC_Skins;1117435]The offensive line is a lot better than what you are giving credit for. Kirk had 8 sacks in 6 games last year as opposed to 33 in 7 games by Robert. The OL is fine. Is it the best? Absolutely not, but it's enough to make a 6th round RB look like a star the past 3 years. Also, our line is rated better than the Patriots as well.[/quote] I heard Kevin Sheehan use the ridiculous argument. RG3 took a lot of sacks and many them were his fault. That is true. However, RG3 faults doesn't change the FACT that our Oline got manhandled consistently. They couldn't open holes in the running game that is one of the reason AM barely eclipsed 1000 (a career low). Lets be honest, with out that read option he would never had 1600 and 1300 yard seasons. With RG3 on the field he has room to run. Without him he struggles to get 50 yards in a game behind our line. That's not my opinion, it's a fact. If you watched all of the games last year you'll see no matter who we play our Olinemen gets pushed in the backfield consistently on passing and running plays. Now Kirk might have taken less sacks but our offense was just as ineffective.

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If we want RG3 to be successful this year then we have to start running more of the read option. I do believe he's gotten better as a pocket passer, but he's at his best when we're running the read option. I say let the man go out there and do what he does best and slowly but surely develop his abilities from the pocket. I'm seeing other teams running the read option. Why are we not running it? What do you guys think?

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seeing we are talking about the OL ..to make matters worse we use our top pick on a Guard..(he can't beat out Morgan for the Tackle spot..and Moses was what a 3rd round pick..) Scherff will have to be a pro bowl player for years to justify the number 5 spot to play Guard.I am glad we drafted a OL but we could have gotten that level of player in the middle of the first round with an added top player say another OL OR TE..

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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1117444]If we want RG3 to be successful this year then we have to start running more of the read option. I do believe he's gotten better as a pocket passer, but he's at his best when we're running the read option. I say let the man go out there and do what he does best and slowly but surely develop his abilities from the pocket. What do you guys think?[/quote]

Read option is going to get him killed eventually. This is why I think Gruden is just going to play him, hope for the best and let the chips fall where they will.

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[quote=Flyer97;1117446]Read option is going to get him killed eventually. This is why I think Gruden is just going to play him, hope for the best and let the chips fall where they will.[/quote] I keep hearing people say that, but in reality the opposite is true. The biggest hits he's taken has been in the pocket. If anything it looks like he's going to get killed in pocket. And if what you think is true why not make the best of the situation and get the most out of him? In my opinion it's no reason to stop doing what works.

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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1117448]I keep hearing people say that, but in reality the opposite is true. The biggest hits he's taken has been in the pocket. If anything it looks like he's going to get killed in pocket. And if what you think is true why not make the best of the situation and get the most out of him? In my opinion it's no reason to stop doing what works.[/quote]

I agree with you to a certain extent. Read Option is best for him, but he isn't as mobile as in pre injury 2012. He just isn't the same guy, hence that is why I think he eventually would get smacked down really bad eventually. I just don't see how this whole drama is going to have a happy ending. You have a QB that is trying to become something he is not, and you have a veiled civil war going on between the HC and management. Yeah Gruden is playing nice for now, but who knows what it is going to be like if Robert either gets hurt or just doesn't get the job done. All we have to do is pray for a miracle that Robert gets it together before he sustains another major injury. Gruden's as well as the Skin's future is now dependent on RG III for better or for worse. If Gruden gets fired after this season, the chances of ever getting a decent HC in the near to mid term will be nil, if it isn't already considering we basically got stuck with Gruden IMHO.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1117057]For real, people seem to forget Kirk falling apart last year.

I think the plan should be to keep Kirk until he falls apart and let McCoy finish the season.[/quote]

Michigan State QBs are good backups, nothing more, nothing less. Only good Big Ten QBs in the NFL for the past 15-20 years are Brees and Brady.

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[quote=Flyer97;1117432]Personally, like I have stated before, I don't think we should even entertain acquiring a top QB before we rebuild the line. After Trent goes, we have a bunch of scrubs to deal with. I would rebuild the line next season then draft a QB in 2017. We need new scouting dept folks.[/quote]

Hopefully they can draft a QB who doesn't call the wrong protections all the time and has some semblance of pre-snap recognition. Otherwise, it doesn't matter who's blocking.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1117435]The offensive line is a lot better than what you are giving credit for. Kirk had 8 sacks in 6 games last year as opposed to 33 in 7 games by Robert. The OL is fine. Is it the best? Absolutely not, but it's enough to make a 6th round RB look like a star the past 3 years. Also, our line is rated better than the Patriots as well.[/quote]

Luck's line sucks worse, Rogers and Big Ben have played with crappy Lines. It's a tired and pathetic excuse. RG3 gets sacked, because he can't recognize Defenses and has zero pocket presence. KC and Colt are hardly pro-bowlers and they get sacked way less behind the same Offensive Linemen.

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[quote=That Guy;1117420]kurt warner also got hit like 4 million times while playing, so i'm not sure he's the best guy to ask about that.[/quote]

And he has no idea what they're running and who's responsible for what.

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Cooley's more thorough film breakdown of the Detroit game: (It's labeled as such on Aug 24)

[url=http://www.espn980.com/audio-vault/]Audio Vault | ESPN 980[/url]

Cooley says he knows the offense and knows what he is talking about. I know, I know, most analysts say the same thing. It's one thing to read a break down by a writer at the Washington Post or a part time soccer analyst on bleacher report. It's another to listen to someone break down the mistakes who played in the same offense he is analyzing.

FYI, he does fault Scherff for poor play. The jist of the break down is that Grif didn't do anything that even a mediocre QB should do to mask the errors of the line.

He makes a big deal out of the one instance that Scherff and Smith were beaten each and they were able to keep the defender in front of them. This, he argues gives RG3 an opportunity to side step and hit a check down or throw it in the dirt at somebody.

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Moses and Scherff haven't taken many NFL snaps and certainly haven't taken them side by side.

The more they play together the better they will get together.

Cooley was extremely high on Moses' pass blocking and was impressed by his footwork. Still missing a run block or two.

Scherff needs to improve asap. He says Scherff isn't playing aggressive and seems to be playing tentatively. As his snap count increases, so will his comfort level. He will stop thinking and just react (as nasty as possible hopefully).

I don't believe RG3 is the guy but if he is the starter, I hope our inexperienced right side improves enough for him to survive Wake and Suh.

If past performance predicts future outcomes; he isn't going to do all the slippery stuff to protect himself.

Very tough first match up for our offense and a scary match up for Grif. Really hope we aren't on the hook for the injury cap hit after week 1.

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[QUOTE=44Deezel;1117459]Luck's line sucks worse, Rogers and Big Ben have played with crappy Lines. It's a tired and pathetic excuse. RG3 gets sacked, because he can't recognize Defenses and has zero pocket presence. KC and Colt are hardly pro-bowlers and they get sacked way less behind the same Offensive Linemen.[/QUOTE]


Glad im not the only one who sees it. The dude is just not a good qb. End of discussion. You can put him behind whatever line you want or surround him with whatever weapons you want. You can give him whatever coach you want and play him in whatever system you want. 2012 was unfortunately a mirage. He will never ever make it in the NFL. The sooner DS and all others involved realize this, the sooner we can start digging out of yet another hole. Just for the record this is not what I want, and I have been absolutely depressed about it since the 2013 season started. He has had ample time as a healthy qb in both pre-season and regular season to show us any sign of a "turn-around" and has done absolutely zilch, nada, and squat about it. Oh well. As I have always said im a Redskins fan, and i dont care who is under center or when he was drafted as long as he wins.

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Punch,

Do you think they should draft a QB in 2016? I still think they need to get another first round lineman first, maybe another first and second in next years draft. Who is available next year?

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[QUOTE=Flyer97;1117464]Punch,



Do you think they should draft a QB in 2016? I still think they need to get another first round lineman first, maybe another first and second in next years draft. Who is available next year?[/QUOTE]


I think they have several holes to fill, but this is the RG-3 turnaround thread. Lol. Way to early to know who the good qb's coming out are, plus there is the possibility that Cousins progresses. I did see one '16 mock draft that has us taking Christian Hackenberg from PSU with the 3rd pick. They had Cardale Jones going number one to the Browns.
It is also way to early too see how our young oline pans out. Would be nice to see some semblance of a line by 2016 and not have to spend two more picks on it so early.

Edit: oh n welcome to the Warpath. [emoji2]

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[quote=htownskinfan;1117442]Holy crap where has that guy gone?? On those dropbacks he looks so comfortable,he's sliding away from pressure,he just looks like a totally different qb then he does now.His mechanics and instincts now look like shit compared to then[/quote]

WOW.....that dude deserves 16m a year.