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[quote=skinsfaninok;1182244]the same as it was for Romo, "cant win big games" which I think is a joke[/quote]

It took Peyton 8 years to finally win a big game when it mattered, that argument sucks.

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People still think Peyton didn’t win “enough” big games. It’s the ultimate team game except when it comes to evaluating QBs for some reason.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1182278]People still think Peyton didn’t win “enough” big games. It’s the ultimate team game except when it comes to evaluating QBs for some reason.[/QUOTE]Charlie weis said if the skins don't keep KC they will be set back years. Idk about that but it sure would suck

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1182280]Charlie weis said if the skins don't keep KC they will be set back years. Idk about that but it sure would suck

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He is right

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1182280]Charlie weis said if the skins don't keep KC they will be set back years. Idk about that but it sure would suck

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We would be starting over at the most critical position on the field, a position we’ve been chasing since 1991. How people are ok with that is completely beyond me.

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I literally go back and forth on resigning him (based on how much he'll get). I think I'm just going to let the chips fall where they may and roll with it. I can see arguments to both sides.

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Either scenario 1 or 3, preferably 1.

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hogshaven.com/platform/amp/2017/12/4/16733088/redskins-off-season-scenarios-will-the-team-fumble-away-its-future[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1182348]Either scenario 1 or 3, preferably 1.

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hogshaven.com/platform/amp/2017/12/4/16733088/redskins-off-season-scenarios-will-the-team-fumble-away-its-future[/url][/quote]

I have said all along that I want KC long term but I don't think the skins do and I'll stick to that until it happens. I'd take Baker or Allen if KC walks.

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[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2017/12/04/dan-hellie-dan-snyder-should-beg-kirk-cousins-to-stay/]Dan Hellie: Dan Snyder Should Beg Kirk Cousins to Stay « CBS DC[/url]


Maybe Kirk doesn't want to stay?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1182355][url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2017/12/04/dan-hellie-dan-snyder-should-beg-kirk-cousins-to-stay/]Dan Hellie: Dan Snyder Should Beg Kirk Cousins to Stay « CBS DC[/url]


Maybe Kirk doesn't want to stay?[/quote]

Could be the case.... And i am with the crowd that would pray we drafted mayfield if kirk walks.

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[quote=Meks;1182356]Could be the case.... And i am with the crowd that would pray we drafted mayfield if kirk walks.[/quote]

He's got an arrogant attitude but he's a guy that nobody wanted, he has that chip on his shoulder that u want in a QB.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1182359]He's got an arrogant attitude but he's a guy that nobody wanted, he has that chip on his shoulder that u want in a QB.[/quote]

yea i do think that upon entering the league theres a good chance this gets toned down and the kid gets a bit humbled. You would hope for his and his careers' sake

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[quote=skinsfan69;1182249]Well I wouldn't say he played great last year. If that was the case we would've made the playoffs. But good to very good sure. He was great against the Packers.[/quote]

The Skins didn't make the playoff last year because the defense was terrible not because of KC.

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[quote=irish;1182385]The Skins didn't make the playoff last year because the defense was terrible not because of KC.[/quote]

team layed an egg in a win and in situation... kinda hard to shake that one off for me. And of course, the game ended on a cousins INT sadly.

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Kirk was awful in that Giants game, that was not on the D.

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[url=http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/national-radio-host-claims-some-redskins-receivers-do-not-kirk-cousins?utm_content=bufferb4d27&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer]National radio host claims that some Redskins receivers do not like Kirk Cousins | NBC Sports Washington[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1182395][url=http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/national-radio-host-claims-some-redskins-receivers-do-not-kirk-cousins?utm_content=bufferb4d27&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer]National radio host claims that some Redskins receivers do not like Kirk Cousins | NBC Sports Washington[/url][/quote]

Bogus! If there's truth to this, it's probably coming from a receiver in which we all know got benched for being horrible, and that's Terrell Pryor.

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[quote=metalskins;1182399]Bogus! If there's truth to this, it's probably coming from a receiver in which we all know got benched for being horrible, and that's Terrell Pryor.[/quote]

thats who I bet it is

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1182401]thats who I bet it is[/quote]

I also wouldn't doubt Snyder is somehow pushing this story.

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None of our WRs are even worthy of having their opinions considered.

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Bogus rumors about the WR’s

[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Bolt/Dan-Patrick-hammers-Kurt-Cousins-on-radio-show-111844302[/url]

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I could also see a scenario where Andy Dalton's name comes up if they don't get a deal done sooner than later. He knows the system well and is a solid QB

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[quote=MTK;1182420]None of our WRs are even worthy of having their opinions considered.[/quote]


Pretty much this. Until those dipshits can actually catch something, all of them should shut the fuck up and have a seat.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1182495]Pretty much this. Until those dipshits can actually catch something, all of them should shut the fuck up and have a seat.[/quote]

Ryan Grant is top 10 in catches while in traffic per PFF, I saw that little post of their's the other day. I will say he's a solid number 2 or 3

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[quote=NC_Skins;1182495]Pretty much this. Until those dipshits can actually catch something, all of them should shut the fuck up and have a seat.[/quote]

I agree, but don't think it's worth getting too upset over it because literally no-one else has confirmed the report.

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[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2017/12/08/dan-patrick-clarifies-kirk-cousins-rumor-goes-after-grant-paulsen/]Dan Patrick Clarifies Kirk Cousins Rumor, Goes After ‘Greg’ Paulsen « CBS DC[/url]

Smells like BS

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1182498]Ryan Grant is top 10 in catches while in traffic per PFF, I saw that little post of their's the other day. I will say he's a solid number 2 or 3[/quote]

Oh god no!
Grant can't separate from DBs that's why all his catches are in traffic.
He has a TOP 5 QB but Grant isn't in the top 50 in any meaningful receiving categories.

This guy doesn't make the practice sqaud with Pittsburg or Atlanta.

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[quote=MTK;1182501][url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2017/12/08/dan-patrick-clarifies-kirk-cousins-rumor-goes-after-grant-paulsen/]Dan Patrick Clarifies Kirk Cousins Rumor, Goes After ‘Greg’ Paulsen « CBS DC[/url]

Smells like BS[/quote]

You know, [B]I did a little research[/B] on the whole Kirk Cousins situation and what Marshall Faulk and Steve Smith Sr. were saying about Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins is not well-liked by his wide receivers. Not at all. So [B]the behind-the-scenes intel is that they're not big Kirk Cousins fan[/B]s.

- Dan Patrick, Dec 6

Patrick hinted at his source, [B]saying it was not someone affiliated with the Redskins organization, but rather “somebody at the game[/B],” which does not rule out Marshall Faulk or Steve Smith, Sr., or any of the 91,712 fans in attendance at AT&T Stadium last Thursday.

“During that broadcast, this is what I had to say about Kirk Cousins,” Patrick said Friday. “I said somebody at the game said to me, who’s not affiliated with the Redskins. I actually had somebody from the media in Washington, D.C. ask me last night, ‘Are the Redskins the source?’

- Dan Patrick, today
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Come on Dan, thats lame what you did there. I get it, you got hours to fill.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1182424]I could also see a scenario where Andy Dalton's name comes up if they don't get a deal done sooner than later. He knows the system well and is a solid QB[/quote]

No, No, and No...

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[quote=over the mountain;1182505]You know, [B]I did a little research[/B] on the whole Kirk Cousins situation and what Marshall Faulk and Steve Smith Sr. were saying about Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins is not well-liked by his wide receivers. Not at all. So [B]the behind-the-scenes intel is that they're not big Kirk Cousins fan[/B]s.

- Dan Patrick, Dec 6

Patrick hinted at his source, [B]saying it was not someone affiliated with the Redskins organization, but rather “somebody at the game[/B],” which does not rule out Marshall Faulk or Steve Smith, Sr., or any of the 91,712 fans in attendance at AT&T Stadium last Thursday.

“During that broadcast, this is what I had to say about Kirk Cousins,” Patrick said Friday. “I said somebody at the game said to me, who’s not affiliated with the Redskins. I actually had somebody from the media in Washington, D.C. ask me last night, ‘Are the Redskins the source?’

- Dan Patrick, today
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Come on Dan, thats lame what you did there. I get it, you got hours to fill.[/quote]

So freakin lazy and such a cheap hot take. Marshall Faulk and Steve Smith don't know jack about he relationship Kurt and his receivers have.

Was it Faulk or Smith who said he didn't see Kirk go over and comfort Crowder on the sideline and as a result faulted his leadership?

I would love to see a clip of any decent QB in the NFL "comforting" a professional receiver after a a performance like Crowder had. It would be much easier to find clips of NFL QBs chewing their ass.

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[QUOTE=jamf;1182502]Oh god no!
Grant can't separate from DBs that's why all his catches are in traffic.
He has a TOP 5 QB but Grant isn't in the top 50 in any meaningful receiving categories.

This guy doesn't make the practice sqaud with Pittsburg or Atlanta.[/QUOTE]O come on he's not that bad

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Look for my upcoming new book entitled [I]The Kirk Cousins Contract Story: How Hubris and Intransigence on Both Sides Combined to Poop on Redskins Fans.[/I]

Other new books you might enjoy:

[I]The Fart of a Deal[/I] by Dan Snyder

[I]Tag! You're "It"![/I] by Kirk Cousins

[I]Winning Off the Field[/I] by Bruce Allen

[I]i Na care no mor; fuk! a Reskin[/I] by Scot McCloughan

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1182508]So freakin lazy and such a cheap hot take. Marshall Faulk and Steve Smith don't know jack about he relationship Kurt and his receivers have.

Was it Faulk or Smith who said he didn't see Kirk go over and comfort Crowder on the sideline and as a result faulted his leadership?

I would love to see a clip of any decent QB in the NFL "comforting" a professional receiver after a a performance like Crowder had. It would be much easier to find clips of NFL QBs chewing their ass.[/quote]Steve Smith should have stuck to his day job for another year or two.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1182514]Look for my upcoming new book entitled [I]The Kirk Cousins Contract Story: How Hubris and Intransigence on Both Sides Combined to Poop on Redskins Fans.[/I]

Other new books you might enjoy:

[I]The Fart of a Deal[/I] by Dan Snyder

[I]Tag! You're "It"![/I] by Kirk Cousins

[I]Winning Off the Field[/I] by Bruce Allen

[I]i Na care no mor; fuk! a Reskin[/I] by Scot McCloughan[/QUOTE]Looking forward to reading those.

I also suggest a short novel entitled "Wide receivers: a tale of drops and mediocrity " co-written by J. Crowder and T. Pryor, with a nice preface by J. Docston.

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After seeing all of our holes, idk if we shouldn't just let go, sign other players that can help and draft a QB (Baker) in the 1St. I love KC and would take him back but not for 28 million

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Time to start over I guess. Why can't I just settle down with a nice competent team. Why do I always go for the crazies?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1182678]After seeing all of our holes, idk if we shouldn't just let go, sign other players that can help and draft a QB (Baker) in the 1St. I love KC and would take him back but not for 28 million

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The guy has a losing record as a starter and doesn't really play like he wants to stay. I mean he is stinking up the joint as of late, when he should be playing lights out to get paid. I thought of him as a nice backup to RG III, nothing more when we drafted him. He was a good QB at MSU, but nothing really spectacular, as most MSU QBs end up being serviceable backups in the NFL. We tricked ourselves thinking he was more than what he was. He did very well last year for a stretch and the media got on the bandwagon into this season. They were all saying pay the man like 3 weeks ago. I wouldn't pay him $20 million, much less $25 million now. Another thing, the QB/WR relationship is purely symbiotic. A good QB will only do well with a good WR corp and vice versa. An elite or very good QB can only make a really good WR look better. Our WR corp is a god damn joke. Even if Kirk was playing good and the losses and failures on the offense were mostly on the WR corp, it would be useless to pay all that $$$$$$ if the guy just doesn't have the tools to work with, but alas I don't think Kirk is all that, so just cut the cord and start over. Our roster sucks period!!!!!!!!

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I now fully expect to see KC go somewhere else no matter what offer the Skins make. I don't think he wants to be with a dysfunctional organization like the Skins anymore.

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[quote=irish;1182801]I now fully expect to see KC go somewhere else no matter what offer the Skins make. I don't think he wants to be with a dysfunctional organization like the Skins anymore.[/quote]

I agree and its a legitimate reason to not be here.


I do wonder if we tag cousins again, would San Fran be willing to trade Cousins for Jimmy G straight up? Id take that trade....call Josh McDaniels to see if he would be interested in HC job and fire Gruden.

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I love Kirk, best QB we've had since Theisman IMO but I don't see him here anymore. If I'm the Vikings or Dolphins I'm paying him 30M to come.