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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1217326]Yeah but that’s two different discussions...my problem is reporting smoke as fact. Too the point muller had to release a statement saying multiple facts were wrong.



Right now my best guess...was there obstruction...yes. Was there collusion...no. But we will find out soon enough...let the facts lay.[/QUOTE]



You’re getting there Chico. Very fucking slowly and with much hesitation, but you’re getting there.....
BTW multiple facts being wrong could mean it is not as bad as what Buzzfeed reported or it is actually much worse. Could just be meaningless details too.
Bottom line is this guy had ulterior and self serving motives to cozy up to Russia at the expense of national security. Broad enough for ya? Who gives a fuck if it was text messages or recordings to prove it. Or if Mr Jones or Mrs Jones was on the other end of it. He is guilty AF of criminal activity and on record lying about it too every one and their mothers. Fuck his slimy, guilty, orange ass.

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[quote=punch it in;1217546]You’re getting there Chico. Very fucking slowly and with much hesitation, but you’re getting there.....
BTW multiple facts being wrong could mean it is not as bad as what Buzzfeed reported or it is actually much worse. Could just be meaningless details too.
Bottom line is this guy had ulterior and self serving motives to cozy up to Russia at the expense of national security. Broad enough for ya? Who gives a fuck if it was text messages or recordings to prove it. Or if Mr Jones or Mrs Jones was on the other end of it. He is guilty AF of criminal activity and on record lying about it too every one and their mothers. Fuck his slimy, guilty, orange ass.[/quote]

You haven’t followed anything I’ve said if you think “I’m getting there”. It makes as much sense as the buzzfeed got wrong meaningless details which would draw a response from the mueller investigation.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1217605]You haven’t followed anything I’ve said if you think “I’m getting there”. It makes as much sense as the buzzfeed got wrong meaningless details which would draw a response from the mueller investigation.[/QUOTE]



Makes perfect sense. Mueller doesn’t want anything politicized.

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[quote=mooby;1217538]The Russians literally started hacking the DNC and HRod after Trump went on tv and said "Russia can you find those deleted emails" (paraphrasing).

[url]https://youtu.be/mQb2S4DIcNc?t=17[/url]

Also I have no qualms about the Mueller investigation bearing fruit but it sounds like their denial (without going into specifics) is an attempt to quiet down the roar from Congress about investigating further. If you're going to deny an article and claim it's false you should go into specifics about which part is false.[/quote]

So you think the mueller should specifically address what was wrong in the article? You really think that should how it works...spotty journalism, throw shit against the wall and the mueller should stop the investigation and address specifics from some shit company buzzfeed? Whose one of the coauthor has been involved previously in plagiarism and was a drug addict.

Let’s wait until the investigation is over. People don’t trust the American media, they consider it just as slimy as the president...mueller has a record of a standup, respectful guy who will do a good job. He doesn’t have time to address buzzfeed.

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One thing we do know is that Trump is a greedy ass control freak. So if you have half a brain you know that his family, campaign manager, lawyer, and dozens of his other close confidants were not doing any of this without his knowledge. Remember when there was no there even there? Lmao. Now it was there but he didn’t know. Ok. Yeah let the investigation finish. Please. Lock him the fuck up.

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[quote=Chico23231;1217607]So you think the mueller should specifically address what was wrong in the article? You really think that should how it works...spotty journalism, throw shit against the wall and the mueller should stop the investigation and address specifics from some shit company buzzfeed? Whose one of the coauthor has been involved previously in plagiarism and was a drug addict.

Let’s wait until the investigation is over. People don’t trust the American media, they consider it just as slimy as the president...mueller has a record of a standup, respectful guy who will do a good job. He doesn’t have time to address buzzfeed.[/quote]

WOW, so he's a"drug addict and a plagiarist"and lets add "people don't trust American Media".

Chico , really??? Go back and look at my original post , did I not say it's "buzzfeed" and I will wait till it's all said and done . Mueller came out and said the buzzfeed was not accurate ,yeah we get it .You call Mueller a stand up guy well think man, please just think. Not accurate is not the same as wrong, false,or fake news . I agree wait till it all comes out but stop with the media stuff nothing and I mean nothing is slimy as than the trump.

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[quote=Giantone;1217613]WOW, [B]so he's a"drug addict and a plagiarist"and lets add "people don't trust American Media[/B]".

Chico , really??? Go back and look at my original post , did I not say it's "buzzfeed" and I will wait till it's all said and done . Mueller came out and said the buzzfeed was not accurate ,yeah we get it .You call Mueller a stand up guy well think man, please just think. Not accurate is not the same as wrong, false,or fake news . I agree wait till it all comes out but stop with the media stuff nothing and I mean nothing is slimy as than the trump.[/quote]

yes, these are all true.

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[quote=Chico23231;1217615]yes, these are all true.[/quote]



Chico don't you think it's strange you hold a reporter to a higher standard than you do your president?

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[quote=Giantone;1217621]Chico don't you think it's strange you hold a reporter to a higher standard than you do your president?[/quote]

sigh...Brother, again this is a separate discussion. The President is a proven liar, a man with low character traits, an asshole, combative, has divided rather than united...I haven't disputed this. I think he wont be back for a second round. We are so wrapped up in the man. When it comes to policy and agenda...he done a lot of things I agree with and some I disagree agree with and some I think are terrible. Politically, he's done some crazy shit and he has the biggest fucking balls the office has every seen. There shouldn't be an official presidential portrait...there should be a statue of large brass balls to be commissioned.

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We both know Mueller would take the high road. Just a simple deny and leave it that, no specifics.

But the story basically is "Cohen says he was operating under the direction of Trump. Buzzfeed News (important to differentiate from Buzzfeed "10 things your poop says about you") says their sources are 2 law enforcement officials that cited various pieces of evidence, including emails/etc.

Buzzfeed News is basically saying Mueller's team has a leak. Mueller's denial is basically "no we do not have a leak." All we can do is speculate, but it seems like Mueller does not want this to gain a life of its' own. At the end when everything is finished he will present a report in a detailed orderly fashion.

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[quote=Chico23231;1217622]sigh...Brother, again this is a separate discussion. The President is a proven liar, a man with low character traits, an asshole, combative, has divided rather than united...I haven't disputed this. I think he wont be back for a second round. We are so wrapped up in the man. When it comes to policy and agenda...he done a lot of things I agree with and some I disagree agree with and some I think are terrible. Politically, he's done some crazy shit and he has the biggest fucking balls the office has every seen. There shouldn't be an official presidential portrait...there should be a statue of large brass balls to be commissioned.[/quote]
Chico ,read what it is you write? You say you have said he is a liar and then you go on a diatribe of admiration for him .You say we are wrap up in the man , he is the fucking president yet you aren't wrapped up in him or the dishonor he has brought upon the presidency but you will bitch about someone in the press making a mistake.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1217622]sigh...Brother, again this is a separate discussion. The President is a proven liar, a man with low character traits, an asshole, combative, has divided rather than united...I haven't disputed this. I think he wont be back for a second round. We are so wrapped up in the man. When it comes to policy and agenda...he done a lot of things I agree with and some I disagree agree with and some I think are terrible. Politically, he's done some crazy shit and he has the biggest fucking balls the office has every seen. There shouldn't be an official presidential portrait...there should be a statue of large brass balls to be commissioned.[/QUOTE]



Don’t confuse balls with bad manners. This D bag has no balls. That is why he never served. That is why he has other people handle his firings. That is why he sucks off the dictators of the world every time he is face to face with them. Balls? Please. Dude is a straight pussy.

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[quote=punch it in;1217735]Don’t confuse balls with bad manners. This D bag has no balls. That is why he never served. That is why he has other people handle his firings. That is why he sucks off the dictators of the world every time he is face to face with them. Balls? Please. Dude is a straight pussy.[/quote]

Exactly , he has no loyalty to his friends, family or country.

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Give him credit, he has the balls to do things no other President would even consider. Like trying to run his business and build a tower in our most despised rivals' country at the same time that he's running for President.

But yeah is he also a pussy for talking shit about guys like McCain and that Gold Star family when it's widely known he used his dad's connections to get a deferment for bone spurs? Of course :D.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1217741]Give him credit, he has the balls to do things no other President would even consider. Like trying to run his business and build a tower in our most despised rivals' country at the same time that he's running for President.



But yeah is he also a pussy for talking shit about guys like McCain and that Gold Star family when it's widely known he used his dad's connections to get a deferment for bone spurs? Of course :D.[/QUOTE]



Again there is a difference between balls and manners. Maybe manners on a big stage but manners none the less. Balls means doing what is right for your country and others. He is just a selfish little pussy.
Does it take balls to shut down the government and ruin hundreds of thousands of lives while putting our countries security at risk? No. It takes greed though. It takes a fuckin crybaby who couldn’t get his way so he threw a temper tantrum. Balls is doing the right thing even if it means sacrificing something. In this case pissing off a bunch of xenophobic white nationalists who want a symbolic wall. For God sakes el chapo himself just testified that 95 % of the drugs come into the country through legal points of entry but this ball- less fuck is still claiming his three mile long wall will stop them.

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[B]NANCY PELOSI................WINNING.[/B]


[url]https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/23/politics/donald-trump-nancy-pelosi-state-of-the-union/index.html[/url]


Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump declared his annual State of the Union address "canceled" on Wednesday after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sent word she would bar him from delivering the speech in the House chamber while parts of the government remain shut down.

The back-and-forth escalated one of the rancorous subplots of the extended standoff over border security that has shuttered several government agencies and forced hundreds of thousands of federal workers to go unpaid.
Even as the two leaders sent each other letters dripping with barely veiled disgust, they did not plan to meet face-to-face and haven't spoken directly in weeks.
After receiving Pelosi's message, Trump railed against Democrats and indicated he would announce plans for an alternative address in due course. Officials have suggested options including a speech from the White House or a rally outside of Washington





You know this has got to be killing trump ,#1) to be told No , #2) to have it done in public by a Women !

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Exactly. In private when they say no he does what he wants anyway.

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Punch we disagree on what having balls means. Having balls doesn't necessarily mean doing the right thing imo, it means having the stones to pull some unpopular shit while ignoring the steadily growing pile of evidence that mounts against you.

Smart? No. Ballsy? Yes. Manners? LOL, we both know Trump has none of that. It's why his base likes him so much.

And can we both agree that the wall is just so he can run next election on keeping his campaign promises and making America great again? We both know it's not about stopping drugs, or crime (when there's no statistical evidence backing that up), it's about stopping minorities from coming in.

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JMPO ....


trump is a chicken shit ,he has no balls . If he did he would stand up and fight for what he believes .He wouldn't throw people or family under the bus. He would address the problem's . He doesn't ...trump always .....always has an ulterior motive for everything and that sole motive is what is best for trump.

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Like it or not Trump has shown big balls with Policy and his Agenda

1. Immigration - Obama laughed when asked about it when asked by the press if he would tackle immigration reformed. Previous presidents steered cleared as well. Trump has not only reduced illegals crossing but has met the issue head on.

2. ISIS, Genocide, Russia, Syria - Armed the Kurds, killed Russians, killed Russian Mercenaries, Bombed Syria, Destroyed most of ISIS, Ended the Genocide. Also have reduced the terrorist attacks at home and in Europe with this action.

3. Confronted North Korea - Has made more progress than previous administrations combined

4. China - killed TPP, the garbage economic policy from the previous administration which even Clinton opposed. Has taken on the China all over the world, but the first to confront their unfair economic policies versus our country. I'm not going to list each one, but there are many. Not endorsing tariffs, but big balls.

5. Venezuela - first major power to declare the opposition group as the leadership of the country vs the socialist that have destroyed the country. Standing up for the people of Venezuela. This is a full confrontation of China and Russian interest- yet no one is talking about it.

While I don't agree with everything, this [B]post isn't an endorsement[/B]...Trump is confronting issues many administrations-Dem or GOP- have refused to even approach. That's Big Balls, and probably will cost him a second term. I think we should be a better Country coming out of all this discourse once we have solved these issues.

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[quote=Chico23231;1217832]Like it or not Trump has shown big balls with Policy and his Agenda

1. Immigration - Obama laughed when asked about it when asked by the press if he would tackle immigration reformed. Previous presidents steered cleared as well. Trump has not only reduced illegals crossing but has met the issue head on.

2. ISIS, Genocide, Russia, Syria - Armed the Kurds, killed Russians, killed Russian Mercenaries, Bombed Syria, Destroyed most of ISIS, Ended the Genocide. Also have reduced the terrorist attacks at home and in Europe with this action.

3. Confronted North Korea - Has made more progress than previous administrations combined

4. China - killed TPP, the garbage economic policy from the previous administration which even Clinton opposed. Has taken on the China all over the world, but the first to confront their unfair economic policies versus our country. I'm not going to list each one, but there are many. Not endorsing tariffs, but big balls.

5. Venezuela - first major power to declare the opposition group as the leadership of the country vs the socialist that have destroyed the country. Standing up for the people of Venezuela. This is a full confrontation of China and Russian interest- yet no one is talking about it.

While I don't agree with everything, this [B]post isn't an endorsement[/B]...Trump is confronting issues many administrations-Dem or GOP- have refused to even approach. That's Big Balls, and probably will cost him a second term. I think we should be a better Country coming out of all this discourse once we have solved these issues.[/quote]




I truly feel sorry for you .

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1217832]Like it or not Trump has shown big balls with Policy and his Agenda



1. Immigration - Obama laughed when asked about it when asked by the press if he would tackle immigration reformed. Previous presidents steered cleared as well. Trump has not only reduced illegals crossing but has met the issue head on.



2. ISIS, Genocide, Russia, Syria - Armed the Kurds, killed Russians, killed Russian Mercenaries, Bombed Syria, Destroyed most of ISIS, Ended the Genocide. Also have reduced the terrorist attacks at home and in Europe with this action.



3. Confronted North Korea - Has made more progress than previous administrations combined



4. China - killed TPP, the garbage economic policy from the previous administration which even Clinton opposed. Has taken on the China all over the world, but the first to confront their unfair economic policies versus our country. I'm not going to list each one, but there are many. Not endorsing tariffs, but big balls.



5. Venezuela - first major power to declare the opposition group as the leadership of the country vs the socialist that have destroyed the country. Standing up for the people of Venezuela. This is a full confrontation of China and Russian interest- yet no one is talking about it.



While I don't agree with everything, this [B]post isn't an endorsement[/B]...Trump is confronting issues many administrations-Dem or GOP- have refused to even approach. That's Big Balls, and probably will cost him a second term. I think we should be a better Country coming out of all this discourse once we have solved these issues.[/QUOTE]



How can you say you are not a Trumper who watches Fox. You literally spew the same spun hot garbage as they do. Than u throw in a little disclaimer like “i dont totally agree” or “he has his faults” just so nobody can put Chico in a corner.
Anyway on to real news and not spun garbage ...
[url]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2019-01-25/former-trump-aide-roger-stone-arrested-video[/url]

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[QUOTE=mooby;1217806]Punch we disagree on what having balls means. Having balls doesn't necessarily mean doing the right thing imo, it means having the stones to pull some unpopular shit while ignoring the steadily growing pile of evidence that mounts against you.

Smart? No. Ballsy? Yes. Manners? LOL, we both know Trump has none of that. It's why his base likes him so much.

And can we both agree that the wall is just so he can run next election on keeping his campaign promises and making America great again? We both know it's not about stopping drugs, or crime (when there's no statistical evidence backing that up), it's about stopping minorities from coming in.[/QUOTE]



We totally agree on the substance obviously i just think balls means...
Mooby ...real gangsta ass niggas dont flex nutz cus real gangsta ass niggas know they got em...
[url]https://youtu.be/bUt_KF9vI10[/url]

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Yikes...well punch can say that. But since Im the Libertarian identified with the right, obviously I cant say that without being called a racist or offending someone.

but ive owned multiple Ghetto Boys albums

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1217895]Yikes...well punch can say that. But since Im the Libertarian identified with the right, obviously I cant say that without being called a racist or offending someone.



but ive owned multiple Ghetto Boys albums[/QUOTE]



How did i know that spin master chico would bring up the race card because I QUOTED LYRICS. Gtfoh.
Did you ever think that you are identified with the right because you are oozing with blame for the left and excuses for the right. You can call yourself whatever you want but your words in several different threads are all here man. The things you have said that drew ire about racism have never once been song lyrics. But you can cry hypocrisy until the cows come home.

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Nope, I pulled the PC/Speech card...Spin master Punch :)...but I'm a big fan of quoting Ghetto Boys lyrics to prove a point...which was excellent by the way.

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Can we all just agree the Geto Boyz bang? FFS. Great usage there to prove a point btw Punch.

P.S. Chico according to DIFGTBAG Trump is the opposite of a gangsta. Trump has none of those qualities gangstas have.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1217904]Nope, I pulled the PC/Speech card...Spin master Punch :)...but I'm a big fan of quoting Ghetto Boys lyrics to prove a point...which was excellent by the way.[/QUOTE]



I thought so. Lol

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Winning is all relative. I don't think 99.9% of all the people in DC care if we win.

For example, the wall talk.

Do any of us really think politicians are for or against the wall because of the 10ish billion? Our total deficit is like 21 trillion. The 10 billion is a speck of sand. Nah, they are for or against for votes, kickbacks, future slefish goals, etc. Politicians are brilliant at getting us to fight with each other, while they all benefit on the side.

There's a reason why we all say Bruce should run for office. He's a swindler. Fits right in.

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ummm...so if Howard Schultz run for President, I would probably vote for him based on his very sound views.

SO why the fuck are the dems upset? I don't get it, you want someone full of shit like K whore Harris?

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[quote=Chico23231;1218078]ummm...so if Howard Schultz run for President, I would probably vote for him based on his very sound views.

SO why the fuck are the dems upset? I don't get it, you want someone full of shit like K whore Harris?[/quote]

Bernie bro till I die. And no, I don't support the free college idea either, and think that has no chance in hell of ever happening. I am a fan of single payer healthcare though, and I say that as someone with a fantastic health care plan with the county.

I don't like Kamala Harris, she seems disingenuous trying to paint herself as a progressive/woman of the people given her history as a prosecutor/attorney general.

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[quote=Chico23231;1218078]

SO why the fuck are the dems upset? I don't get it, you want someone full of shit like K whore Harris?[/quote]



Chico , class all the way.:stop:

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[quote=Giantone;1218107]Chico , class all the way.:stop:[/quote]

Lol...go read Willie brown...it’s pretty obvious to everyone she fuck him to further her career. Let’s call it like it is. He was 60, married...she much younger. She hoed her way up.

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[quote=Chico23231;1218111]Lol...go read Willie brown...it’s pretty obvious to everyone she fuck him to further her career. Let’s call it like it is. He was 60, married...she much younger. She hoed her way up.[/quote]

So glad she is running. Democrats, so far, are running people that Trunp will slaughter in debates. I'm already makkng my popcorn.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1218107]Chico , class all the way.:stop:[/QUOTE]



Lol. Hey some people get really triggered by a BLACK, WOMAN, who has a relationship with someone older than them. And by someone I mean Chico and the rest of the far right bunch of wing nutz.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1218126]So glad she is running. Democrats, so far, are running people that Trunp will slaughter in debates. I'm already makkng my popcorn.[/QUOTE]



Are you kidding me? Slaughter in debates? This depends how you score a debate? Facts? Knowledge? Solutions? Or insults, crassness, loudness? If you are about the latter than yes I suppose Trump will slaughter them.
It is literally unfathomable to me that :
1) you feel she is the one with skeletons in her closet - all of Trumps past short comings-hookers peeing on him, numerous numerous extra marital affairs including a porn star while his wife was giving birth, the scams like his university, (lets be honest i could go on for days) - dont bother you but Kamals Harris and Willie Brown makes her a dumb bitch ho?
2) that in your mind an intelligible debate is based on who can sling the most shit at the other candidate in the loudest voice.
Make America Sane Again....,

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[quote=punch it in;1218133]Are you kidding me? Slaughter in debates? This depends how you score a debate? Facts? Knowledge? Solutions? Or insults, crassness, loudness? If you are about the latter than yes I suppose Trump will slaughter them.
It is literally unfathomable to me that :
1) you feel she is the one with skeletons in her closet - all of Trumps past short comings-hookers peeing on him, numerous numerous extra marital affairs including a porn star while his wife was giving birth, the scams like his university, (lets be honest i could go on for days) - dont bother you but Kamals Harris and Willie Brown makes her a dumb bitch ho?
2) that in your mind an intelligible debate is based on who can sling the most shit at the other candidate in the loudest voice.
Make America Sane Again....,[/quote]

I never said anything about her skeletons or that she was a dumb bitch ho. Don't put words in my mouth. I just don't see how her politics have any chance of winning.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1218134]I never said anything about her skeletons or that she was a dumb bitch ho. Don't put words in my mouth. I just don't see how her politics have any chance of winning.[/QUOTE]



You literally quoted and piggy backed off of Chicos post which was basically him saying she is a dumb bitch ho. Be careful the company you keep I guess.
Donald Trump won so how can anyones politics instill doubt in you? That is a serious question.

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The fact that anyone thinks trump is going two terms is amusing,really it is.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1218136]The fact that anyone thinks trump is going two terms is amusing,really it is.[/QUOTE]



The fact that anyone wants him to is more amusing.