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[quote=MTK;1221191][URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-arent-taking-wr-first-round-and-5-more-bold-2019-draft-predictions"]The Redskins aren't taking a WR in the first round and 5 more bold 2019 draft predictions [/URL][/quote]

This reads like a plan I would certainly agree with...the best TE or best Pass rusher available at 15. Rosen for second. WR later. Tackle/RB late in the draft.

I like all this

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We need a pass rusher more than anything else. Anderson just isn't going to cut it.

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I would trade down, get a G (OL and DL would be set) then focus on a Pass rusher, WR, QB, ILB, CB, TE. The OL is one G away from being one of the best in the NFL, Morgan Moses needs to play better of course.

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It doesn't matter who we draft this team is still going to be trash. Bookmark this comment!

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[quote=httr198020;1221210]It doesn't matter who we draft this team is still going to be trash. Bookmark this comment![/quote]

Nice.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1221207]I would trade down, get a G (OL and DL would be set) then focus on a Pass rusher, WR, QB, ILB, CB, TE. The OL is one G away from being one of the best in the NFL, Morgan Moses needs to play better of course.[/quote]

I wouldn't mind trading back either, but we know they will most likely move up knowing our luck

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[quote=httr198020;1221210]It doesn't matter who we draft this team is still going to be trash. Bookmark this comment![/quote]

Nice, constructive comment. Really contributes to the discussion.

Probably time to follow another team...

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1221207]I would trade down, get a G (OL and DL would be set) then focus on a Pass rusher, WR, QB, ILB, CB, TE. The OL is one G away from being one of the best in the NFL, Morgan Moses needs to play better of course.[/quote]

It depends who is there when we pick. If a potentially great player is there at 15 then we simply can not trade back. We lack superstars.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1221231]It depends who is there when we pick. If a potentially great player is there at 15 then we simply can not trade back. We lack superstars.[/quote]

I seriously doubt we get that lucky 3 years in a row.
The only "superstar" I see potentially dropping to 15 is Hockenson (TE), mainly due to his position. Although a need....not a critical one for the skins. I actually think this is the best scenario as the Skins would be forced to either take him, OR they would have actual substantial leverage at the 15th pick to trade down.

We also need to pay attention to who we are ahead of, the Panthers.
Who need Edge like us, which is irrelevant as we would definitely take an edge guy vs a trade down.
However, they also need an OT, which MAY fall.
Teams may trade if there is OT in our lap, as the Panthers will be drooling, so someone else may want to jump over them to get one, perhaps Houston or Vikings.

So, best case for trade down is probably depends on whether Hockensen or OT falls to us.

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[QUOTE=skinsnut;1221235]I seriously doubt we get that lucky 3 years in a row.

The only "superstar" I see potentially dropping to 15 is Hockenson (TE), mainly due to his position. Although a need....not a critical one for the skins. I actually think this is the best scenario as the Skins would be forced to either take him, OR they would have actual substantial leverage at the 15th pick to trade down.



We also need to pay attention to who we are ahead of, the Panthers.

Who need Edge like us, which is irrelevant as we would definitely take an edge guy vs a trade down.

However, they also need an OT, which MAY fall.

Teams may trade if there is OT in our lap, as the Panthers will be drooling, so someone else may want to jump over them to get one, perhaps Houston or Vikings.



So, best case for trade down is probably depends on whether Hockensen or OT falls to us.[/QUOTE]Y TE is one of the biggest needs on the team.

The entire run scheme is built on the position and we don't have one.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1221193]We need a pass rusher more than anything else. Anderson just isn't going to cut it.[/quote]

I agree....who is better between Ferrell, Burns, and Polite? We can't go wrong with either of them.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1221193]We need a pass rusher more than anything else. Anderson just isn't going to cut it.[/quote]

I'm just glad it's not Preston Smith. $13M/year for 6 sacks/year...

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15: R1p15 - te t.j. Hockenson - iowa
46: R2p14 - lb mack wilson - alabama
76: R3p12 - edge jaylon ferguson - louisiana tech
96: R3p32 - qb will grier - wvu
153: R5p15 - wr keelan doss - california-davis
173: R5p35 - g dru samia - oklahoma
206: R6p33 - wr keesean johnson - fresno state
227: R7p13 - s marvell tell iii - usc
253: R7p39 - cb corey ballentine - washburn

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There is no way it turns out this well, but I would be pretty happy if it did:

15: R1P15 EDGE MONTEZ SWEAT MISSISSIPPI ST
46: R2P14 S TAYLOR RAPP WASHINGTON
76: R3P12 WR PARRIS CAMPBELL OHIO STATE
96: R3P32 TE JACE STERNBERGER TEXAS A&M
153: R5P15 QB WILL GRIER WEST VIRGINIA
173: R5P35 G DRU SAMIA OKLAHOMA
206: R6P33 CB SAIVION SMITH ALABAMA
227: R7P13 WR STANLEY MORGAN JR. NEBRASKA
253: R7P39 DL TRYSTEN HILL UCF

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What we need is a QB .. I don’t care if it’s Rosen, Lock, Jones . Without that position in place I can’t get excited about the team . QB, Edge,WR,TE,Ol (left guard) .. would you give up next years #1 for Rosen then fill out all the needs in this years draft?

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[quote=rocnrik;1221336]What we need is a QB .. I don’t care if it’s Rosen, Lock, Jones . Without that position in place I can’t get excited about the team . QB, Edge,WR,TE,Ol (left guard) .. would you give up next years #1 for Rosen then fill out all the needs in this years draft?[/quote]

Great Question, I would if it meant he is the franchise QB. I agree with you though, it's time to stop the BS Free Agent QB stuff, we let our own walk last yr, lets go get a QB and mold him into a franchise guy.

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[quote=rocnrik;1221336]What we need is a QB .. I don’t care if it’s Rosen, Lock, Jones . Without that position in place I can’t get excited about the team . QB, Edge,WR,TE,Ol (left guard) .. would you give up next years #1 for Rosen then fill out all the needs in this years draft?[/quote]

Nope.

We've gotten unparalleled production from our 2nd round pick in the past 3 drafts. :Flush: A WHOPPING 3 combined starts...

Trade the 2019 2nd + a 2020 mid for Rosen for fuck's sake.

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I agree.

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[quote=los panda;1221338]Nope.

We've gotten unparalleled production from our 2nd round pick in the past 3 drafts. :Flush: A WHOPPING 3 combined starts...

Trade the 2019 2nd + a 2020 mid for Rosen for fuck's sake.[/quote]



Very logical....👍

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1221379]Very logical....👍[/quote]

You're right. Our 2nd round picks have been just as successful as our 1st round picks. We have had no trouble drafting second tier players once the top tier guys are off the board.

We should definitely trade 2020's 1st instead of 2019's 2nd for this reason.

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1: R1p15 - lb devin white - lsu
2: R2p14 - s juan thornhill - virginia
3: R3p12 - g michael jordan - ohio st.
4: R3p32 - edge christian miller - alabama
5: R5p15 - wr stanley morgan - nebraska
6: R5p35 - qb brett rypien - boise st.
7: R6p33 - te tommy sweeney - boston college
8: R7p13 - cb jordan brown - south dakota state
9: R7p39 - wr alex wesley - northern colorado

Would be pretty damn happy with this draft.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1221389]1: R1p15 - lb devin white - lsu
2: R2p14 - s juan thornhill - virginia
3: R3p12 - g michael jordan - ohio st.
4: R3p32 - edge christian miller - alabama
5: R5p15 - wr stanley morgan - nebraska
6: R5p35 - qb brett rypien - boise st.
7: R6p33 - te tommy sweeney - boston college
8: R7p13 - cb jordan brown - south dakota state
9: R7p39 - wr alex wesley - northern colorado

Would be pretty damn happy with this draft.[/quote]

I think they'll draft an inside backer by the mid rounds....Shaun Dion Hamilton could take over for Mason Foster...the coaches could invision a Alabama connection of Hamilton and Rubein Foster at ILB.

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Any surprises for the draft coming up from the Skins? I wouldn't say trading for Rosen would be a surprise....but maybe a player, position, or trade out of the first round...?

I think my surprise would be the Skins picking a Tackle with one of the first 2 picks. I think we are really scouting there...we have had a ton of Tackles in private workouts...So my call is Tackle a lot higher than folks think.

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[quote=Chico23231;1221415]Any surprises for the draft coming up from the Skins? I wouldn't say trading for Rosen would be a surprise....but maybe a player, position, or trade out of the first round...?

I think my surprise would be the Skins picking a Tackle with one of the first 2 picks. I think we are really scouting there...we have had a ton of Tackles in private workouts...So my call is Tackle a lot higher than folks think.[/quote]

I could see that as well, wouldn't hate it

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A tackle in the first two rounds? Yeah I wouldn’t be happy with that.


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[quote=MTK;1221419]A tackle in the first two rounds? Yeah I wouldn’t be happy with that.


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I think Jonah Williams could be a big time Guard so if we took him at 15 I'd be ok

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Per Walter Football who yearly compiles the visits of prospects to teams they learn of through social media and beat writers...Pri is Private meeting which would indicate a more serious visit. WOR is private workout...again seemingly a more serious visit. > pointed up is multiple contacts with prospect. So makes sense QB are plenty on this list....but look at the Tackle list. Lots of top, middle tier prospects. Of course this doesn't mean this is a board for them, just good discussion piece.

Kendall Blanton, TE, Missouri (EW)
David Blough, QB, Purdue (EW)
A.J. Brown, WR, Ole Miss (PRI)
Hakeen Butler, WR, Iowa State (PRI)
Blake Cashman^, ILB, Minnesota (COM, PRI)
Davion Davis, WR, Sam Houston State (WOR)
Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State (PRI)
Jon Duhart, WR, Old Dominion (EW)
Chuma Edoga, OT, USC (SR)
Jordan Ellis, RB, Virginia (EW)
Ryan Finley^, QB, N.C. State (COM, PRI)
Cody Ford, OT/G, Oklahoma (COM)
Travis Fulgham, WR, Old Dominion (LOC)
Carl Granderson, DE/3-4OLB, Wyoming (SR)
Will Grier^, QB, West Virginia (COM, PRO, PRI)
Kelvin Harmon, WR, N.C. State (COM)
Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State (PRI)
Jesper Horstead, WR, Princeton (EW)
Tytus Howard^, OT, Alabama State (SR, PRI)
KeeSean Johnson, WR, Fresno State (EW)
Daniel Jones^, QB, Duke (COM, PRI)
Nick Linder, C, Indiana (EW)
Chris Lindstrom, G, Boston College (PRI)
Drew Lock^, QB, Missouri (PRO, PRI)
Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington (PRI)
D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss (COM)
Adrian Middleton, DT, Kentucky (WOR)
Foster Moreau, TE, LSU (SR)
Brandon Murphy, OT, Memphis (WOR)
Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma (PRI)
Chris Peace, OLB, Virginia (EW)
Ryan Pope, OT, San Diego State (PRO)
Dalton Risner^, OT, Kansas State (SR, PRI)
Tyler Roemer, OT, San Diego State (PRO)
Dru Samia, G, Oklahoma (SR)
Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina (COM)
David Sills, WR, West Virginia (SR)
Chris Slayton, DT, Syracuse (EW)
Jaylen Smith, WR, Louisville (SR)
Jarrett Stidham^, QB, Auburn (COM, PRI)
Sione Takitaki, OLB, Brigham Young (EW)
Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida (COM)
Cody Thompson, WR, Toledo (EW)
Clayton Thorson, QB, Northwestern (PRI)
Tre Watson, ILB, Maryland (EW)
Trevon Wesco, FB, West Virginia (SR)
Kevin Wilkins, DT, Rutgers (EW)
Renell Wren, DT/3-4DE, Arizona State (SR)
Terry Wright, WR, Purdue (EW)
Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple (SR)


FYI the two private meetings with WR Butler, Brown....probably the best WR in the draft

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[url]http://johnkeimreport.libsyn.com/[/url]

Good info here with Matt Bowen and Keim about the upcoming draft. Bowen says pass rusher at 15 first Sweat if he falls or Burns for the Skins.

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[quote=Chico23231;1221428]Per Walter Football who yearly compiles the visits of prospects to teams they learn of through social media and beat writers...Pri is Private meeting which would indicate a more serious visit. WOR is private workout...again seemingly a more serious visit. > pointed up is multiple contacts with prospect. So makes sense QB are plenty on this list....but look at the Tackle list. Lots of top, middle tier prospects. Of course this doesn't mean this is a board for them, just good discussion piece.

Kendall Blanton, TE, Missouri (EW)
David Blough, QB, Purdue (EW)
A.J. Brown, WR, Ole Miss (PRI)
Hakeen Butler, WR, Iowa State (PRI)
Blake Cashman^, ILB, Minnesota (COM, PRI)
Davion Davis, WR, Sam Houston State (WOR)
Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State (PRI)
Jon Duhart, WR, Old Dominion (EW)
Chuma Edoga, OT, USC (SR)
Jordan Ellis, RB, Virginia (EW)
Ryan Finley^, QB, N.C. State (COM, PRI)
Cody Ford, OT/G, Oklahoma (COM)
Travis Fulgham, WR, Old Dominion (LOC)
Carl Granderson, DE/3-4OLB, Wyoming (SR)
Will Grier^, QB, West Virginia (COM, PRO, PRI)
Kelvin Harmon, WR, N.C. State (COM)
Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State (PRI)
Jesper Horstead, WR, Princeton (EW)
Tytus Howard^, OT, Alabama State (SR, PRI)
KeeSean Johnson, WR, Fresno State (EW)
Daniel Jones^, QB, Duke (COM, PRI)
Nick Linder, C, Indiana (EW)
Chris Lindstrom, G, Boston College (PRI)
Drew Lock^, QB, Missouri (PRO, PRI)
Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington (PRI)
D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss (COM)
Adrian Middleton, DT, Kentucky (WOR)
Foster Moreau, TE, LSU (SR)
Brandon Murphy, OT, Memphis (WOR)
Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma (PRI)
Chris Peace, OLB, Virginia (EW)
Ryan Pope, OT, San Diego State (PRO)
Dalton Risner^, OT, Kansas State (SR, PRI)
Tyler Roemer, OT, San Diego State (PRO)
Dru Samia, G, Oklahoma (SR)
Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina (COM)
David Sills, WR, West Virginia (SR)
Chris Slayton, DT, Syracuse (EW)
Jaylen Smith, WR, Louisville (SR)
Jarrett Stidham^, QB, Auburn (COM, PRI)
Sione Takitaki, OLB, Brigham Young (EW)
Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida (COM)
Cody Thompson, WR, Toledo (EW)
Clayton Thorson, QB, Northwestern (PRI)
Tre Watson, ILB, Maryland (EW)
Trevon Wesco, FB, West Virginia (SR)
Kevin Wilkins, DT, Rutgers (EW)
Renell Wren, DT/3-4DE, Arizona State (SR)
Terry Wright, WR, Purdue (EW)
Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple (SR)


FYI the two private meetings with WR Butler, Brown....probably the best WR in the draft[/quote]

I don't see Brett Rypien's name on that list....and that's a little dissapointing......I'm hoping Rypien will be a sleeper pick by the Redskins....

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Interesting, by my count, the number of visits per position breaks down as follows:



WR: 14

OT: 9.5 (one identified as OT/G)

QB: 9

DT: 3.5 (one identified as DT/DE)

OLB: 2.5 (one identified as OLB/DE)

G: 2.5 (one identified as OT/G)

ILB: 2

TE: 2

RB, C, FB, CB, and DE: all 1 (the DE "1" are two guys identified as DE/DT or DE/OLB)



Maybe it's hard to take too much from this (because raw numbers won't reflect interest in individuals per se and some of this may be smokescreens), but given our G situation, they must think that some of these OTs would convert to G. But I have to say, I am surprised we're not seeing more at G, ILB, OLB, C, and CB. And no safeties at all?

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I wouldn't hate this at all

[URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/if-redskins-want-great-value-day-2-receiver-hakeem-butler-worth-looking"]If the Redskins want 'great value' on a Day 2 receiver, Hakeem Butler is worth looking at [/URL]

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The nice thing about having a roster that could use help everywhere is that we don't need to overthink the draft. Just go BPA every round. I don't care what position it is, just take the best player. It's almost a relief for me as a fan cause I don't have a particular "wish list" of players I want. Give me anybody who can play their position well.

If we can shore up the QB spot with Rosen (big IF, I know) then that's worth a round 2 pick.

Trade back in the first, recoup our 2nd rounder and load up on young, cheap talent.

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[quote=sevier2;1221495]The nice thing about having a roster that could use help everywhere is that we don't need to overthink the draft. Just go BPA every round. I don't care what position it is, just take the best player. It's almost a relief for me as a fan cause I don't have a particular "wish list" of players I want. Give me anybody who can play their position well.

If we can shore up the QB spot with Rosen (big IF, I know) then that's worth a round 2 pick.

Trade back in the first, recoup our 2nd rounder and load up on young, cheap talent.[/quote]

Fine with me as well. BPA is what this team needs for almost all picks. The DLINE is very good as is 3 OL, but everywhere else needs upgrade.

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if an elite edge rusher or Hockenson isn't there at 15, I'd like to see us trade back. There are no QB or WR prospects worthy of the 15th pick, and our other most pressing needs have tons of depth in the mid-rounds.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1221499]if an elite edge rusher or Hockenson isn't there at 15, I'd like to see us trade back. There are no QB or WR prospects worthy of the 15th pick, and our other most pressing needs have tons of depth in the mid-rounds.[/quote]

I agree, except if there is a great tackle I might take him. Let him play guard for a few years and back-up Trent and Moses.

J Williams

Plus Trent has 2 years left on his contract and I doubt they want to give a big contract to a 33-year-old tackle.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1221499]if an elite edge rusher or Hockenson isn't there at 15, I'd like to see us trade back. There are no QB or WR prospects worthy of the 15th pick, and our other most pressing needs have tons of depth in the mid-rounds.[/quote]

The problem with this strategy is that everyone else wants the same, (but may also want OT). Frankly the only taker of a trade down is if the last OT, Edge or Hockenson are available.
It would be really hard to pass up on Hockenson to move down, but that's really the ammo we would need.

The only reason I could see them to move down, is to secure another 2nd and still capture a Rookie QB at then end of the first or in the 2nd.

I personally love Hockenson as he is both Oline and a receiver....really 2 players in one. He is the main one I would not trade down, but no way he falls to us.
Oline? trade down, you can get a guard in round 3.
Most edge? trade down, as anyone here is likely a situational 3rd down pass rusher anyways.

[B]At 15, Buy Hockenson, Buy Sweat, Sell the rest![/B]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1221496]Fine with me as well. BPA is what this team needs for almost all picks. The DLINE is very good as is 3 OL, but everywhere else needs upgrade.[/quote]

Just curious, who is the 3rd?

IMHO, I think we are more solid at C than at RT. Moses is hurt every single year and isn't serviceable when injured (unlike Trent who is merely good when injured).

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1221527]Just curious, who is the 3rd?

IMHO, I think we are more solid at C than at RT. Moses is hurt every single year and isn't serviceable when injured (unlike Trent who is merely good when injured).[/quote]

I’m a big believer in chase

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When I look at the Roster I see some big needs:

1. Pass Rusher
2. Free Safety
3. Quality starting boundary WR opposite Richardson
4. Left Guard
5. Blocking TE
6. Young QB

Because of our poor free agency period, Bruce has put us in a bad position to have to plug holes in this draft. We must use the first 4 picks to get players who start or contribute right away.

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[quote=Chico23231;1221550]When I look at the Roster I see some big needs:

1. Pass Rusher
2. Free Safety
3. Quality starting boundary WR opposite Richardson
4. Left Guard
5. Blocking TE
6. Young QB

Because off our poor free agency period, Bruce has put us in a bad position to have to plug holes in this draft. We must use the first 4 picks to get players who start or contribute right away.[/quote]

I don't see them going after FS, DRC is going to fill that role for a year IMO.