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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1243009]BHA you make very good points about how some of the day to day gets executed.



We currently know that Kyle will oversee all scouting, both professional and college scouting. We know he will create the draft board.



We know Rob Rodgers will handle contract negotiations.



We don’t know who will negotiate trades, make waiver wire adds, etc. It could be that Rivera asks for Kyle to present him with a list of possibles and Rivera makes the decision. As to who is actually processing the paperwork, that seems more administrative. Anybody could do it. You could have a low level administrator executing Rivera’s wishes, and that admin could report in to Kyle or Rivera himself.



To me the only major function that hasn’t been assigned yet is the non-football operations boss. I think Rivera and Smith function as the chief decision makers with all authority sitting with Rivera. Who runs the business side still seems up in the air.[/QUOTE]



It doesn’t even matter until we start winning and filling seats. Whoever it is will just be a fall guy like Lafemina was so that Snyders ego doesn’t get hurt....

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Yeah I really could give a flying F who runs the business side. The business side runs itself when the football side operates in a way that gives the fans hope. We don’t even need wins, we just need hope that there will be wins, and then we spend money.

Of course you’re right, nothing brings on hope for wins like actually showing you can win. :laughing-

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So here's the official announcement on the Redskins coaching staff for next season:

[url]https://www.redskins.com/news/announcements/redskins-announce-coaching-staff[/url]

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1243014]Yeah I really could give a flying F who runs the business side. The business side runs itself when the football side operates in a way that gives the fans hope. We don’t even need wins, we just need hope that there will be wins, and then we spend money.



Of course you’re right, nothing brings on hope for wins like actually showing you can win. :laughing-[/QUOTE]



I agree. I don’t give a crap about “winning OFF the field”. It’s so wonderful having adult supervision and building a winning culture after the years wandering the desert as Cerrato/ Allen make gross mistake after mistake. I believe this team will turn around FAST. All the old, overpaid, hurt FA will be gone. This team will see some real talent arrive in FA at TE, WR and CB and other positions. Then we’ll have a very good draft with Edge phenom Chase Young joining the defense. This will be a changed and YOUNG (no pun intended) team!

Many of the problems of the Redskins related directly to piss poor coaching. Sweat had 7.5 sacks when he was falling back into coverage HALF the time. What’s he going to do opposite Chase with a REAL DC? People will be amazed at how quickly certain parts of our team will immediately IMPROVE. Other parts will take more time but this team will be a lot better next year!


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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1243018]So here's the official announcement on the Redskins coaching staff for next season:



[url]https://www.redskins.com/news/announcements/redskins-announce-coaching-staff[/url][/QUOTE]I don't see Cooley listed. Thought that was a real thing. Maybe not important enough of a position. Also a lot of nepotism going off last names (I think every staff in the NFL does that though)

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Are we all drinking off season kool aid again or does the absence of a Smithers Burns (be it with Allen or Cerrato playing the part) actually give cause for optimism? My fan nutz have been kicked so many times over the last 20 years I am hesitant to get excited. Like there may actually be a curse or something. [emoji2357]

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[quote=Schneed10;1243014]Yeah I really could give a flying F who runs the business side. The business side runs itself when the football side operates in a way that gives the fans hope. We don’t even need wins, we just need hope that there will be wins, and then we spend money.

Of course you’re right, nothing brings on hope for wins like actually showing you can win. :laughing-[/quote]

I agree - I could care less who runs it - I just want that person to be identified so that Rivera and Smith can focus on their primary jobs.

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[quote=punch it in;1243022]Are we all drinking off season kool aid again or does the absence of a Smithers Burns (be it with Allen or Cerrato playing the part) actually give cause for optimism? My fan nutz have been kicked so many times over the last 20 years I am hesitant to get excited. Like there may actually be a curse or something. [emoji2357][/quote]

I feel you.. We are into only a couple of weeks of offseason for Redskins and I already drank half of the kool aid pitcher. I had to remind myself of exactly same thing you mentioned, except it's been about 15 years for me since I started watching NFL. I think (or hope) it's different this time simply because of how Riveria has been shaping the Redskins FO. Almost everyone from the past are gone now and I don't think Redskins did that before? Also, just because there are a lot of changes, it doesn't necessarily will translate into winning seasons for Redskins. But since I already drank half of the pitcher, I might as well go all the way.

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[quote=punch it in;1243022]Are we all drinking off season kool aid again or does the absence of a Smithers Burns (be it with Allen or Cerrato playing the part) actually give cause for optimism? My fan nutz have been kicked so many times over the last 20 years I am hesitant to get excited. Like there may actually be a curse or something. [emoji2357][/quote]

LOL! I am excited about the changes, and for now I'll give Snyder credit for the move and trying a different approach. I think most of us here would agree, our feelings about the team today are completely different than they were just 3 weeks ago...if nothing else, a new hope!

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A stunningly obvious but refreshing to hear quote from Jack Del Rio via JP Finlay
[Quote]Jack Del Rio said watching 2019 Redskins tape he saw a lot of confusion at the line of scrimmage. He said that must change. "We have to know what were doing."[/Quote]
Also said he wants a disruptive defensive line - i think Allen Payne and Ionnaidis are going to enjoy his defensive plans.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1243035]A stunningly obvious but refreshing to hear quote from Jack Del Rio via JP Finlay

Also said he wants a disruptive defensive line - i think Allen Payne and Ionnaidis are going to enjoy his defensive plans.

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That's what I want to hear.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1243035]A stunningly obvious but refreshing to hear quote from Jack Del Rio via JP Finlay

Also said he wants a disruptive defensive line - i think Allen Payne and Ionnaidis are going to enjoy his defensive plans.

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Yeah if I had a dime for every time I heard “there seemed to be some confusion “ while our D was on the field I would be rich. And I only watched like 5-6 games!

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It was obvious to even the most casual observer.... don't think it takes a genius to see it, but gives the new DC reason to believe he can turn things around quickly

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Couple of things.

1. "Snyder has undermined every coach but Gibbs": I think it's telling that Gibbs told RR "Keep DS in the loop" AND that RR deemed that info an important tidbit to share publicly. I imagine the conversation with JG went something like this: RR "So, is DS the interfering busybody the press says he is and is he going to undermine my decisions?" JG "DS is just passionate about the Skins, a big well-intentioned fan that happens to be the owner and wants to be part of the team. As long as you keep him informed about what you want to do, why you are doing it, and generally make him feel like an important part of the organization, you will be fine." From what I have seen, I think RR will manage DS just fine; that, more than anything else, will be the key to the Skins future success.

2. I hate everything about this regime because it is doing so many good things - without actually telling everyone they are doing good things ("We are winning the offseason", "We have a damn good culture.") - that I can't wait for next season to start. For the next nine months I will alternate between being excited and dreading the nuts kick - I am going to need medication. <sarcastic font off>.

Now, draft the Predator and pass me the damn Kool-Aid.

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For what its worth, Chris Russell mentioned on his podcast yesterday that he had checked with multiple sources who said the skins still plan to make another front office hire (like a GM/Team President) after the draft. Kyle Smith's contract runs through June 2021, so he will definitely be here for the next two offseasons, but no word on if he got an extension along with the promotion recently. Snyder and Rivera are both very high on Kyle Smith, so bringing in someone else does not mean undermining Kyle in any way. Russell said he would not be surprised if Rivera brought in the Panthers GM to take on a team president/GM role or if they brought in AJ Smith as a consulting role.

This all seems very reasonable to me, but I wont put much stock in it unless Finlay and Kiem start reporting it.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1243040]Couple of things.



1. "Snyder has undermined every coach but Gibbs": I think it's telling that Gibbs told RR "Keep DS in the loop" AND that RR deemed that info an important tidbit to share publicly. I imagine the conversation with JG went something like this: RR "So, is DS the interfering busybody the press says he is and is he going to undermine my decisions?" JG "DS is just passionate about the Skins, a big well-intentioned fan that happens to be the owner and wants to be part of the team. As long as you keep him informed about what you want to do, why you are doing it, and generally make him feel like an important part of the organization, you will be fine." From what I have seen, I think RR will manage DS just fine; that, more than anything else, will be the key to the Skins future success.



2. I hate everything about this regime because it is doing so many good things - without actually telling everyone they are doing good things ("We are winning the offseason", "We have a damn good culture.") - that I can't wait for next season to start. For the next nine months I will alternate between being excited and dreading the nuts kick - I am going to need medication. <sarcastic font off>.



Now, draft the Predator and pass me the damn Kool-Aid.[/QUOTE]



The nut kick really hinges on Haskins growth. There is absolutely no reason our defense should not be improved because of Del Rio and hopefully Young. Our staff is obviously better. Bruce FUCKING Allen is gone which can only be good. Our wr’s and rb’s look solid. We will add (hopefully smartly) through the draft and FA towards our needs - namely TE, OLine, and Secondary.
It really all hinges on Haskins. He is the elephant in the room right now.

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Our defense will improve quickly and immensely! I don’t think that with Chase and a couple good FA acquisitions at FS and CB it is unreasonable for the Redskins to have a top 10 defense. There is a good deal of talent on the defense which was just grossly mismanaged by Manusky. He was bad. This Redskin defense will shock the NFC East after it being so SOFT and DISORGANIZED for so many years. Players were lost in Greg Manusky’s complex system!

The offense is more of a project. The key acquisition is to rehire Trent, Scherff and Flowers to stabilize the line. They’ll draft a OL with the third round pick. Of all the FA acquisitions the Redskins need, the most important is TE. I think the team will spend top tier money for the best TE FA, who is young and can grow with Haskins. They also will spend cap money on a very good WR. As stated above, the future of the Redskins is tied to Haskins progression.

I think the ‘skins could be a 8-8 team next year with a hard-hitting defense and a pass throwing offense. No kool aid talk, that’s what I see now.


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Check out this crazy train article. Belichick coach the Skins?

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/wait-what-report-says-bill-belichick-inquired-about-coaching-redskins[/url]

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[QUOTE=SkinzWin;1243127]Check out this crazy train article. Belichick coach the Skins?



[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/wait-what-report-says-bill-belichick-inquired-about-coaching-redskins[/url][/QUOTE]



I think this speaks to the NFL looking at the Redskins as a great frozen wreck, that could be restored with a huge CHANGE OF CULTURE and adult supervision. Belichick would have hardened up this vessel, as RR is going to. No more ping pong games when you could be lifting or watching tape or learning from a coach or working on fundamentals!

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[quote=Warthog;1243133]I think this speaks to the NFL looking at the Redskins as a great frozen wreck, that could be restored with a huge CHANGE OF CULTURE and adult supervision. Belichick would have hardened up this vessel, as RR is going to. No more ping pong games when you could be lifting or watching tape or learning from a coach or working on fundamentals![/quote]

F the ping pong table. No one is paying you millions of dollars to improve your ping pong game.

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wonder what kind of games Brady and his boys play?

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[QUOTE=rickmmrr;1243142]F the ping pong table. No one is paying you millions of dollars to improve your ping pong game.[/QUOTE]



Right! You learn your position, talk to the coaches, study tape, lift weights but NOT have big Ping Pong tournaments when you’re a 3-13 team!! The Camp Gruden (cupcake) days are over.


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Removing the ping pong table was 100% symbolic imo. Jay was a players coach and I havent been around their practices or the other 31 to compare but ..... I think this Club Jay thing is being over blown. Perhaps its cathartic.

When Callahan took over and talked about how they would practice "hard" ... the CBA limits how many times you can practice and how many times you can wear pads and have contact.

"Hard" to Callahan meant making the team run gassers and sprints. He couldnt have them doing any more contact drills then what they were already doing under Jay. Gassers .. team might accept that for a few weeks but that approach would have worn thin real quick for a full season.
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Regular season/postseason rules

Limit of 14 padded practices during the regular season, 11 of which must be held during the first 11 weeks (club may hold two padded practices during only one week) with remaining three during the final six weeks.
One padded practice per week in postseason.
Padded practices limited to three hours plus a walk-through with position coaches not to exceed 30 minutes.
Bye weeks – four consecutive days off.

Source: NFLPA summary of main terms of the 2011 collective bargaining agreement.

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Every team is essentially Club Jay with these CBA rules.

Sure coach, have the guys run gassers and sprints during the walk throughs. There is no CBA against that ... but that wouldnt be acceptable well by the players over time imo.

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[quote=SunnySide;1243323]Removing the ping pong table was 100% symbolic imo. [/quote]

Wrong! Redskins Park is a place of business and not a social club. There should not have been a ping pong table to begin with.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1243327]Wrong! Redskins Park is a place of business and not a social club. There should not have been a ping pong table to begin with.[/quote]

I never understood the Ping Pong table. Go do that shit on your off time. Here you have guys on defense who blow coverages every single game cause of lack off communication and you have dudes playing Ping Pong at work. That to me sums up the Redskins under Gruden.

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Alot of teams have ping pong tables pool tables etc. when you have an idiot owner, gm, staff and lack talent the ping pong table becomes an excuse. Do you guys really think if the Pats played ping pong occasionally at the stadium that they would have sucked for the last twenty years? No. But if they had a clown show running the team that lacked talent they would have.

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Option 1:

Players go home immediately after the mandatory 3 hour film session.

Option 2:

Players mingle around, joke, play a few games of pong before heading home after the 3 hour film session.

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Idk. I highly doubt pong time was replacing film or workout time. I highly doubt pong was the downfall or even in the top 100 reasons for this season.

I would guess 75% of the teams have a pong table or something similar.

The best reason to get rid of it imo .. the locker room was too damn small for it anyway.
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[url]https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2017/03/13/the-patriots-take-playing-ping-pong-very-seriously[/url]

[url]https://deadspin.com/only-veterans-may-play-ping-pong-in-the-steelers-locker-1350413205[/url]

Saints, Seahawks, falcons, Giants ...

I spent 3 mins looking for teams without a ping pong table and havent come across one yet. Sure there are articles about Saints removing them for playoffs or Steelers ... but seems like almost all teams have them. Seems like some teams remove them for certain times.

I just dont see the existence of the ping pong table having anything to do with on field communication. If anything is probably helps communication on the field as players who hang out off the field will be more open to talking on the field.

Will Blackmon talked about how when he first came to the Skins, the team was tight and hung out off the field and it made talking during games and being honest easier.
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We went 3-13 and the ping pong table had 0 to do with that. I guess it makes it nice and convenient to blame Club jay and the Ping Pong table for our troubles. I mean, those are easy to fix. Fire jay and fire the pong table.

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1243323]Removing the ping pong table was 100% symbolic imo. Jay was a players coach and I havent been around their practices or the other 31 to compare but ..... I think this Club Jay thing is being over blown. Perhaps its cathartic.



When Callahan took over and talked about how they would practice "hard" ... the CBA limits how many times you can practice and how many times you can wear pads and have contact.



"Hard" to Callahan meant making the team run gassers and sprints. He couldnt have them doing any more contact drills then what they were already doing under Jay. Gassers .. team might accept that for a few weeks but that approach would have worn thin real quick for a full season.

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Regular season/postseason rules



Limit of 14 padded practices during the regular season, 11 of which must be held during the first 11 weeks (club may hold two padded practices during only one week) with remaining three during the final six weeks.

One padded practice per week in postseason.

Padded practices limited to three hours plus a walk-through with position coaches not to exceed 30 minutes.

Bye weeks – four consecutive days off.



Source: NFLPA summary of main terms of the 2011 collective bargaining agreement.



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Every team is essentially Club Jay with these CBA rules.



Sure coach, have the guys run gassers and sprints during the walk throughs. There is no CBA against that ... but that wouldnt be acceptable well by the players over time imo.[/QUOTE]I would imagine that you can have practice in pads that is on one level very hard and you could have a practice in pads that is on the extreme other level more of a walkthrough by the guys are wearing pads and shells. Camp Jay means that even when your in pads you're still basically doing light work out or limited contact whereas under a more aggressive coach you might be running full speed or 3/4 speed so that you get the the game situation more closely replicated.
There is zero doubt the team came out more prepared once Jay was gone.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1243331]I would imagine that you can have practice in pads that is on one level very hard and you could have a practice in pads that is on the extreme other level more of a walkthrough by the guys are wearing pads and shells. Camp Jay means that even when your in pads you're still basically doing light work out or limited contact whereas under a more aggressive coach you might be running full speed or 3/4 speed so that you get the the game situation more closely replicated.
There is zero doubt the team came out more prepared once Jay was gone.

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Yes, I agree, Im sure there are levels to how hard Coach A might go during padded contact practice vs Coach B ... but the CBA really limits it. I doubt Gruden was so much less demanding during his padded practices.

Callahan could only have 3 padded practices during the last 6 games/weeks.

I just dont think there is a huge variance on "how hard" coaches go during padded practices. You only get like 14 or so a year so I imagine they go as hard as they are allowed for as long as they are allowed.

Callahans "hard practices" = running sprints and gassers during walk throughs.

if anyone thinks Callahan had them cracking skulls or running Oklahoma drills 3x a week .... no.


1. I dont really care if the pong table goes. I thought it took up too much room.

2. Team did play harder after jay left and the false start penalties on Moses decreased.

Idk ... I think jay and the pong table are getting way too much of the blame pie.

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1243336]Yes, I agree, Im sure there are levels to how hard Coach A might go during padded contact practice vs Coach B ... but the CBA really limits it. I doubt Gruden was so much less demanding during his padded practices.



Callahan could only have 3 padded practices during the last 6 games/weeks.



I just dont think there is a huge variance on "how hard" coaches go during padded practices. You only get like 14 or so a year so I imagine they go as hard as they are allowed for as long as they are allowed.



Callahans "hard practices" = running sprints and gassers during walk throughs.



if anyone thinks Callahan had them cracking skulls or running Oklahoma drills 3x a week .... no.





1. I dont really care if the pong table goes. I thought it took up too much room.



2. Team did play harder after jay left and the false start penalties on Moses decreased.



Idk ... I think jay and the pong table are getting way too much of the blame pie.[/QUOTE]I agree with you about the ping pong table. It was Rivera coming in and making a clear but highly symbolic gesture to current players that a new wind was blowing thru. But if you are saying Jay's way of practicing and prepping the team was not a problem then I strongly disagree with that.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1243337]I agree with you about the ping pong table. It was Rivera coming in and making a clear but highly symbolic gesture to current players that a new wind was blowing thru. But if you are saying Jay's way of practicing and prepping the team was not a problem then I strongly disagree with that.

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I admittedly have some Jay bias and protectionism going on.

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I think beyond the ping pong table and the number of padded practices, there was a general culture of not being accountable for anything under Jay.
It's not about Oklahoma drills for me, you can study film hard too... or not.
You can study the playbook and audibles hard... or not.
Blown coverages, missed tackles, blown blocking assignments and so on are not fixed by cracking skulls but by creating a culture of accountability that was clearly NOT instilled by Jay. Ping pong table or not.


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[quote=FrenchSkin;1243350]I think beyond the ping pong table and the number of padded practices, there was a general culture of not being accountable for anything under Jay.
It's not about Oklahoma drills for me, you can study film hard too... or not.
You can study the playbook and audibles hard... or not.
Blown coverages, missed tackles, blown blocking assignments and so on are not fixed by cracking skulls but by creating a culture of accountability that was clearly NOT instilled by Jay. Ping pong table or not.

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Great post. Agree with everything you said.

Is your team hardworking and accountable? If so, your chances of success are exponentially higher w/o taking actual talent into account at all. Club Jay didn't instill or demonstrate either of those qualities.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1243351]Great post. Agree with everything you said.

Is your team hardworking and accountable? If so, your chances of success are exponentially higher w/o taking actual talent into account at all. Club Jay didn't instill or demonstrate either of those qualities.[/quote]

+1

Players have to hold themselves and each other accountable but that all starts with the coach and the regime.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1243351]Great post. Agree with everything you said.

[B]Is your team hardworking and accountable? If so, your chances of success are exponentially higher w/o taking actual talent into account at all.[/B] Club Jay didn't instill or demonstrate either of those qualities.[/quote]

Agreed. I've never heard Bill Belichick was running more hard ass tough drills, what I've always heard though is that every player on his roster has to be able to do what his told, know and execute his duties, and if not he's gonna be held accountable for it... IE Malcom Butler being bench during the SB for some silly story (and that decision may have been questionnable, but I do think it's telling of the standard expected when you're on this team).

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SiriusXM NFL radio just reported Jay Gruden was hired as the Jags OC.

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Good read by Barry Svrluga here on the Gibbs/Rivera connection.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/joe-gibbs-sold-ron-rivera-on-the-redskins-and-dan-snyder-no-one-sells-them-harder/2020/01/21/d2b584d6-3c80-11ea-8872-5df698785a4e_story.html?utm_source=reddit.com[/url]

And when the politics forum sucks the will to live out of me, it's quotes like these that remind me why we're all here.

[quote=Mr. Joseph Gibbs]
“It’s the most powerful city in the world, and that football team means the world to that town,” Gibbs said he told Rivera. “It’s one of the very few things that brings everybody together. There’s no Democrat, Republican. It’s everybody for 3½ hours is going to cheer for that football team. . . .
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[quote=mooby;1243376]Good read by Barry Svrluga here on the Gibbs/Rivera connection.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/joe-gibbs-sold-ron-rivera-on-the-redskins-and-dan-snyder-no-one-sells-them-harder/2020/01/21/d2b584d6-3c80-11ea-8872-5df698785a4e_story.html?utm_source=reddit.com[/url]

And when the politics forum sucks the will to live out of me, it's quotes like these that remind me why we're all here.[/quote]

A. I like the post and it's right. We're all Skins fans 1st. I'd gladly buy everyone here beers if we won any kind of important game

B. I love the "Liberal Snowflake" in your info section. Self depreciating humor is awesome

C. Couldn't figure out how you got B where it is so I changed my sig. line for the 1st time ever

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Joe doesn't live here anymore and hasn't coached here in 12 years. Since he's left Snyder has run the team into the ground even more. The Caps have won a Stanley Cup, the Nats won the World Series, both have locations inside the city that are metro accessible. People simply don't care anymore. The evidence is right there at home games. Ravens games get more viewers in the DC market than Redskins games. Joe's way off in his statements but will always be PC.

I like this hire. However, I wish Snyder had gone out on his own, not talked w/ Gibbs and interviewed Bieniemy. He's been under Reid for several years now and what KC does on offense is so cutting edge. Reid has gone from a pure West Coast guy to being the most innovative coach in the league. If we had an offense like that ( Mahomes certainly helps..lol) the fans will come back. Offense sells, the QB sells ( as we saw w/ RG3) and of course winning sells.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1243371]SiriusXM NFL radio just reported Jay Gruden was hired as the Jags OC.[/quote]

Absolute LOL. Did they not watch any games this year?