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I am so happy we have such a crappy organization that QBs like TH are able to have opportunity to play NFL QB; if not for us so many young men would be bagging groceries instead.

If DS is looking for a tax break he should open up the starting QB position to Make a Wish candidates too.

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[quote=mredskins;1297636]I am so happy we have such a crappy organization that QBs like TH are able to have opportunity to play NFL QB; if not for us so many young men would be bagging groceries instead.

If DS is looking for a tax break he should open up the starting QB position to Make a Wish candidates too.[/quote]

Well it's directly because of DS that they're in this boat. I mean when was the last time a team just cut a QB they took in the 1st round before year 3 was finished?? Everyone in the organization advised against drafting him. At least AZ was able to trade Rosen and get something back...nope not this franchise.

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkxBO6tDZDg[/url]

^^ 40 min All 22 film breakdown of Heinike vs Chiefs game.

Guys are open, hes just not getting the ball to them.

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All this Heinike bashing aside ... the defense are reasons 1, 2 and 3 on why this start has been so demoralizing

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[QUOTE=Redskins247;1297634]I think so too. And while I know Kyle can move around and be mobile, I think he'll show more of where the O line is at. Is TH bailing on plays too soon? Or is it a necessity?[/QUOTE]


Im going with a necessity. I do not think our o line is as good as others do. Regardless I dont think Allen is just going to stand in the pocket and pick teams apart.
In summary TH is not good and Kyle Allen is worse and there are no formations to make either if them good.

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I’m sick of Heinke and Allen

We seriously need a QB this offseason…I’m down with Matt Ryan if he is available

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[QUOTE=Redskins247;1297639]Well it's directly because of DS that they're in this boat. I mean when was the last time a team just cut a QB they took in the 1st round before year 3 was finished?? Everyone in the organization advised against drafting him. At least AZ was able to trade Rosen and get something back...nope not this franchise.[/QUOTE]


Not to mention letting Cousins walk and trading fir Alex Smith. Just absolute incompetence from this franchise for years.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1297650]I’m sick of Heinke and Allen

We seriously need a QB this offseason…I’m down with Matt Ryan if he is available[/QUOTE]


Ouch. 37 years old. We will be right back where we started from in a couple years. We have to actually draft a quarterback and than pay him. (Cousins)

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[quote=Chico23231;1297650][B]I’m sick of Heinke and Allen[/B]

We seriously need a QB this offseason…I’m down with Matt Ryan if he is available[/quote]

I'm sure Turner and Ron are right there too.

They tried to swing big with Stafford, they need to swing big and connect this offseason.

If they try to bring back this current QB group we may see attendance in the 20k range next year.

This team needs a RGIII type of move to get this fan base excited again.

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yeah No to Matt Ryan , he is old and about done. Watson or draft one for me

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Swing big with Tuggy Watson

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I wouldn't hate bringing in Matt Ryan, he's still playing pretty well.

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I like Ryan but Turner likes rolling his QBs out and he's a statue. Although he'd be the best QB we have had since Kirk

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If only we could find a guy like this...

"Kirk Cousins is playing some of the best football since he entered the NFL in 2012. After the first six weeks, Cousins ranks among the 10 best passers in the league in completion percentage, passing yards, passing touchdowns, interception percentage, and quarterback rating."

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The [URL="https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/quarterback/"]2022 list of free agent QBs[/URL] looks terrible

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;1297659]If only we could find a guy like this...

"Kirk Cousins is playing some of the best football since he entered the NFL in 2012. After the first six weeks, Cousins ranks among the 10 best passers in the league in completion percentage, passing yards, passing touchdowns, interception percentage, and quarterback rating."[/quote]

He's on fire this yr ut that team is also loaded at WR and RB

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I don't believe any decent QB would be willing to come here by free agency or trade...other than maybe Cam, and if that happened I think I'd seriously check out on the team. Maybe a Mariota or Trubisky but no one like Watson, Carr, Wilson, etc. I think it's going to be draft or bust for them...they may have to trade up to get one if there IS one they really like. And if that's the case, then Ron HAS to be all in on Turner...because they'll be tied together and have to make it work.

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;1297659]If only we could find a guy like this...

"Kirk Cousins is playing some of the best football since he entered the NFL in 2012. After the first six weeks, Cousins ranks among the 10 best passers in the league in completion percentage, passing yards, passing touchdowns, interception percentage, and quarterback rating."[/quote]

What fucking pissed me the fuck off…refused a counteroffer from cousins team of 17 mill per year

Has zero fucking problem accommodating a 16.5 million per year request for Landon Collins in the limited game impact position of strong safety 2 years later

Full fucking retard

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Yeah and The Viks will most likely extend Kirk since they clearly see how bad the QB play is league wide

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The KC situation is what happens when you have non football guys making football related decisions. Also worth nothing that McClueless wasn't a big fan of him either. What a waste that drunk's time turned out to be here.

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[quote=MTK;1297660]The [URL="https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/quarterback/"]2022 list of free agent QBs[/URL] looks terrible[/quote]

Pure ass available

Dan Snyder choosing of Dwayne Haskins put this QB hell cycle we are in right now

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My prediction is when Ron is faced with this decision he probably will bring Cam back which may just be the last straw with this org

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[quote=Chico23231;1297668]My prediction is when Ron is faced with this decision he probably will bring Cam back which may just be the last straw with this org[/quote]

He might as well do that now , Cam is better than TH

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Ron has passed over Cam multiple times now. It's probably never going to happen.

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[QUOTE=CrazyCanuck;1297659]If only we could find a guy like this...

"Kirk Cousins is playing some of the best football since he entered the NFL in 2012. After the first six weeks, Cousins ranks among the 10 best passers in the league in completion percentage, passing yards, passing touchdowns, interception percentage, and quarterback rating."[/QUOTE]


[IMG]https://media3.giphy.com/media/4qx6IRdg26uZ3MTtRn/giphy.gif[/IMG]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1297660]The [URL="https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/quarterback/"]2022 list of free agent QBs[/URL] looks terrible[/QUOTE]


Tyrod Taylor is not bad.
At all.

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[quote=MTK;1297666]The KC situation is what happens when you have non football guys making football related decisions. Also worth nothing that McClueless wasn't a big fan of him either. What a waste that [B]drunk's[/B] time turned out to be here.[/quote]

He was just drinking Coors Light when he was with us, he was fine.


so many folks on here had such a hard on for him, he was awful.

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[quote=punch it in;1297673]Tyrod Taylor is not bad.
At all.[/quote]

except he's always hurt

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[QUOTE=MTK;1297676]except he's always hurt[/QUOTE]


That was the knock on TH. Id still give him a shot. If we could somehow do it on the cheap. Low risk high reward.

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The texans love Tyrod , they won't let him go. He'll be their QB2 soon

Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1297678]The texans love Tyrod , they won't let him go. He'll be their QB2 soon[/QUOTE]


I know they do. He will be their starter too. If he makes it thru the season healthy im trying to get him.
Of course than it wont be cheap.

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[quote=punch it in;1297673]Tyrod Taylor is not bad.
At all.[/quote]

Tyrod is who I wanted this past off season. He's had a bit of bad luck, but I think he would have been better than Fitz.

Taylor Effing Heinicke
 

[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1297680]Tyrod is who I wanted this past off season. He's had a bit of bad luck, but I think he would have been better than Fitz.[/QUOTE]


When healthy he is way better than Fitz.
Fitz is better than Fitz when healthy too. Lol

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Good points on the shotgun frequency - a lot of short qbs ran a lot from under center but were more experienced so i feel all of that.

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Pre season I was like "man we gotta take advantage of this window our DL on rookie contracts are giving us, window is next 2-3 years"

Now?

Target who you think is the best QB prospect and do whatever you have to do to draft him. If he stinks, use next years top pick on a QB.

We arent a vet QB away anymore with this defense.

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[quote=SunnySide;1297686]Pre season I was like "man we gotta take advantage of this window our DL on rookie contracts are giving us, window is next 2-3 years"

Now?

Target who you think is the best QB prospect and do whatever you have to do to draft him. If he stinks, use next years top pick on a QB.

We arent a vet QB away anymore with this defense.[/quote]

When healthy though, our offense with a good QB could potentially overcome this defense though.

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Sources: Owner David Tepper and the #Panthers are not expected to pursue #Texans QB Deshaun Watson at this time. The QB has only waived his no-trade clause for the #Dolphins.

RAP SHEET

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1297688]When healthy though, our offense with a good QB could potentially overcome this defense though.[/QUOTE]


Asking alot to overcome this D. Asking alot to stay healthy enough on offense to overcome this D also. We need to improve on both sides of the ball. Quarterback would be a great start for the offense. We need to address the D too though. Unfortunately imo we need better coaching too. These conversations make me fuckin depressed. Lol. There is just no easy fix for this team. [emoji1750]

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Injuries to Samuel and Thomas have killed our passing game tho, even if TH isn't that good, those 2 guys are huge for us especially LT

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Interesting read. I didn't realize how old TH is and that Allen is younger.

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/taylor-heinicke-isnt-rookie-he-shouldnt-be-treated-one?cid=sm_npd_rsn_dc_fb_mn&fbclid=IwAR3nF6PwEoMC5x19LXkLFFaRiXIdkG7CQC-20cQGkWx9_O-35TzxXkko70o[/url]

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Heinicke is not Kurt Warner. Time to start Allen.

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/taylor-heinicke-isnt-rookie-he-shouldnt-be-treated-one[/url]