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[quote=rocnrik;1307393]Preach it Brother!![/quote]


[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-announces-international-market-partnerships-rams-in-china-buccaneers-in-germany-dolphins-in-spain/[/url]

NFL announces international market partnerships: Rams in China

Of course, Los Angeles California has zero problem partnering with China

But these fucks are worried about Redskins?

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So where is the outcry over this … communist China and all that goes with it .. slave labor etc etc… this is an outrage !!

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[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/zGgOW46Hn8QAAAAd/confused-wait-what.gif[/IMG]

I thought we were all in agreement, lots and lots of cold hard cash > human life.

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[quote=rocnrik;1307353]Fair enough .. but the native Americans have no interest in any sports team honoring them .. they made that clear .. even the word Indian is offensive ..The protest Braves games .. I’m sure at some point the Yankees will be offensive .. it’s gonna end up being a state controlled world .. the government will tell you what you can or can’t use as a brand ..[/quote]

Say what???

Exaggerate much??

And how did the government get involved with all this?

Time to get a grip!

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Oh I forgot .. the govt can’t tell us what to do ..my bad
I must have misheard the White House saying the redskins should change the name …no in fact I looked it up and that’s what the administration said ..

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Trying to not politics here in 2022, and politics are being brought to every thread.

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[quote=rocnrik;1307353]Fair enough .. but the native Americans have no interest in any sports team honoring them .. they made that clear .. even the word Indian is offensive ..The protest Braves games .. [B]I’m sure at some point the Yankees will be offensive[/B] .. it’s gonna end up being a state controlled world .. the government will tell you what you can or can’t use as a brand ..[/quote]

As someone who yanks deez, I find the word yankees offensive. Who wants to protest with me?

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Um, can we get back to the name reveal point of the thread? I agree with the sentiment about leaving politics in a different thread.

If it is Commanders, I’ll be disappointed as I think the name isn’t particularly interesting. But I wouldn’t let it get in the way of rooting for the team. I hope others don’t either.


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Here's an updated version of the logo on the helmet after the leak yesterday. The W is different. I also placed it on the new Riddell Axiom Helmet which I drew a few months ago.

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/0e40Zxk.jpg[/IMG]

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Love it!


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1307411]Love it!


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Me too. I'm digging the black as well, didn't think I would.

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[QUOTE=calia;1307409]Um, can we get back to the name reveal point of the thread? I agree with the sentiment about leaving politics in a different thread.

If it is Commanders, I’ll be disappointed as I think the name isn’t particularly interesting. But I wouldn’t let it get in the way of rooting for the team. I hope others don’t either.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Sorry, I am becoming more convinced that I will not root for a team owned by DS named the Commanders. The name fits DS as an egotistical man who thinks the world revolves around him. Further it would be the height of arrogance to use the tag line "the people's team" while completely disregarding the fans inputs for the rebrand. Lots of lip service, then put it on the fans for the team's unwillingness to do what it took to get one of the main fan names (not necessarily wolves/redwolves).

This year under Jason Wright and RR the team still operated with disregard to their fans, focused on petty disputes (benches) and disparaged a team great(ST21) to cover up bad ownership.

I will always cherish the memories of the great Redskins teams but this organization doesn't deserve to be the commanders of that legacy's respect.

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The vast majority of fans relate the name commanders solely to the military etc .. and that very well may be what the team wants( if the do indeed go with the name)
There also is another slant to the name .. The city was named after George Washington the first President .. He was the Commander in chief of the country ( in peace time and war) ..
I could be totally wrong but the name could be a Nod to the First President.. just a thought

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[quote=Summo;1307412]Me too. I'm digging the black as well, didn't think I would.[/quote]

I like the black. I also hope they have an all black uni for prime time games. That could look bad ass

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1307406]Trying to not politics here in 2022, and politics are being brought to every thread.[/quote]

You, politics and 2022. It is like you are living your very own Final Destination movie

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1307416]I like the black. I also hope they have an all black uni for prime time games. That could look bad ass[/QUOTE]Hopefully they change the colors to Maroon and Black to make the break even more complete.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1307413]Sorry, I am becoming more convinced that I will not root for a team owned by DS named the Commanders. The name fits DS as an egotistical man who thinks the world revolves around him. Further it would be the height of arrogance to use the tag line "the people's team" while completely disregarding the fans inputs for the rebrand. Lots of lip service, then put it on the fans for the team's unwillingness to do what it took to get one of the main fan names (not necessarily wolves/redwolves).

This year under Jason Wright and RR the team still operated with disregard to their fans, focused on petty disputes (benches) and disparaged a team great(ST21) to cover up bad ownership.

I will always cherish the memories of the great Redskins teams but this organization doesn't deserve to be the commanders of that legacy's respect.

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I am heading that way too. With Commanders or the like, we are getting a new team owned by Daniel Snyder.

Let me be clear. If the team was sold to, let's say, Jeff Bezos, John Kent Cooke, or Whoever and was named Commanders, I would cheer it on.

It all comes down to Snyder now. This is a chance for a clean break from what has been a nightmare owner.

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If I hated Snyder that much I would never ever pull for his team ..no matter what the name even Redskins , Truth is if anyone thinks there aren’t other owners that are just as bad then think agian .. it’s also the other owners who let Dan stay in the league .. the NFL in general is a billionaire good ole boys club .lots to dislike about Pro sports overall ..

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1307420]If I hated Snyder that much I would never ever pull for his team ..no matter what the name even Redskins , Truth is if anyone thinks there aren’t other owners that are just as bad then think agian .. it’s also the other owners who let Dan stay in the league .. the NFL in general is a billionaire good ole boys club .lots to dislike about Pro sports overall ..[/QUOTE]That may be true, but there are owners for other teams that show respect to their fans and employees or at the least don't bring shame and embarrassment consistently to their own team due to their pettiness. Leaving the DC team doesn't mean I am going jump onto another team that has crappy ownership, heck doesn't even mean I am jumping to another team at all, just that I am going to try not to be emotionally invested in this team.

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[quote=rocnrik;1307420]If I hated Snyder that much I would never ever pull for his team ..no matter what the name even Redskins , Truth is if anyone thinks there aren’t other owners that are just as bad then think agian .. it’s also the other owners who let Dan stay in the league .. the NFL in general is a billionaire good ole boys club .lots to dislike about Pro sports overall ..[/quote]

The evidence indicates otherwise. There is no other owner who has a record of arrogance, sleazery, and just plain stupidity as Daniel Snyder.

And Daniel Snyder is not a jerk because he is rich. Were that so, then men like Warren Buffet would be reviled too. Snyder is a jerk because that is what he is.

I do not pretend to know why.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1307418]Hopefully they change the colors to Maroon and Black to make the break even more complete.

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I’d be down with that but be prepared for warpath conspiracy theorist spouting that Jim Zorn is some sort of prophet.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1307427]I’d be down with that but be prepared for warpath conspiracy theorist spouting that Jim Zorn is some sort of prophet.[/QUOTE]


Hip hip hooray. That would be a weird development.


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I am holding out my judgement until the name is announced but will say that if it is Commanders or Admirals I will be greatly displeased.

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[quote=rocnrik;1307415]The vast majority of fans relate the name commanders solely to the military etc .. and that very well may be what the team wants( if the do indeed go with the name)
There also is another slant to the name .. The city was named after George Washington the first President .. He was the Commander in chief of the country ( in peace time and war) ..
I could be totally wrong but the name could be a [B]Nod to the First President[/B].. just a thought[/quote]


You mean the guy who owned slaves?

There are people already protesting any "nod" to our founders. So ... sadly ... that would take us from one frying pan to another.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1307521]You mean the guy who owned slaves?

There are people already protesting any "nod" to our founders. So ... sadly ... that would take us from one frying pan to another.[/quote]

Wait til they find out in American Indian culture before Europeans ever stood foot here that captured Indians were treated as slaves. Slavery was apart of American Indian culture. And Indians also had Africans slaves as well once chattel slavery was introduced to North America.

Also The America Indian were savages which committed unspeakable atrocities to each other long before any other stepped foot here.

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[quote=Chico23231;1307525]Wait til they find out in American Indian culture before Europeans ever stood foot here that captured Indians were treated as slaves. Slavery was apart of American Indian culture. And Indians also had Africans slaves as well once chattel slavery was introduced to North America.

Also The America Indian were savages which committed unspeakable atrocities to each other long before any other stepped foot here.[/quote]

All the more reason to not name a team after people. People by nature are fallible and therefore always assholes. Groundhogs however are pure and saintly

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[quote=Chico23231;1307525]Wait til they find out in American Indian culture before Europeans ever stood foot here that captured Indians were treated as slaves. Slavery was apart of American Indian culture. And Indians also had Africans slaves as well once chattel slavery was introduced to North America.

Also The America Indian were savages which committed unspeakable atrocities to each other long before any other stepped foot here.[/quote]

You can’t educate folks who don’t want to hear the truth ..

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[QUOTE=MTK;1307232]Is it 2.2 yet? Seriously looking forward to getting this over with.[/QUOTE]So am I!

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[quote=rocnrik;1307530]You can’t educate folks who don’t want to hear the truth ..[/quote]

History will teach us that “Vikings, Raiders and Buccaneers” were just as ruthless and you don’t hear any complaints about them. Probably because SpongeBob and Disney made them cute lol

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I’m surprised that small people don’t protest the NY giants ..😳

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[quote=rocnrik;1307543]I’m surprised that small people don’t protest the NY giants ..😳[/quote]

Or vegans, the Packers!

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I am late to this thread, but many of the posts in the previous threads echo my personal opinion.

If the name does end up being the Commanders, even with or without the ridiculous seal / logo that may have been "leaked", then I am likely through with my fandom regarding this organization.

I had lots, lots of great times as a Skins fan, but unfortunately looking back it seems I had more bad times than good times. Please keep in mind, I am young-ish (37 years old), so was never really "around" to see this Franchise with a good owner and during "good times".

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1307545]I am late to this thread, but many of the posts in the previous threads echo my personal opinion.

If the name does end up being the Commanders, even with or without the ridiculous seal / logo that may have been "leaked", then I am likely through with my fandom regarding this organization.

I had lots, lots of great times as a Skins fan, but unfortunately looking back it seems I had more bad times than good times. Please keep in mind, I am young-ish (37 years old), so was never really "around" to see this Franchise with a good owner and during "good times".[/quote]

That is a shame. Most speak of the obvious greatness of the Gibbs era and for good reason. I am old enough to have watched the entire George Allen era which, while not nearly good as Gibbs', was pretty damn good in its own right.

Even Pardee, the coach between Allen and Gibbs, went .500, Better than nearly all of Snyder's coaches. In reality, 1971 to 1992 was a golden era.

Then the trifecta of doom arrived. Gibbs retired, we left RFK, and then Cooke died. Except for a few fleeting moments of joy here and there, it has been horrid.

I had Danny's number after the Marty/Jeff George debacles. But I hung on because it was still the Redskins.

Now even that is just about gone. :embarrass

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[quote=JackLord;1307552] In reality, 1971 to 1992 was a golden era.

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I was born in 1969. My Dad was a huge Skins fan, and gave me and my brothers two choices growing up. Be a Skins fan, or, don't watch football. It was an easy choice. Growing up in Louisville meant that when the Skins were actually ON TV, they were special days. It also meant ALWAYS getting Dallas games. Which may be why my hate of the Cowboys is as strong as my love of the Redskins.

I vaguely remember the Kilmer-Theisman QB battle as my earliest Skins memory.

But the Joe Gibbs era was when the hook was set in me. What a glorious decade plus 1.

Man ... that was 30 freakin' years ago.

Maybe it's time to call it. Just stick to fantasy football, and hating the Cowboys.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1307545]I am late to this thread, but many of the posts in the previous threads echo my personal opinion.

If the name does end up being the Commanders, even with or without the ridiculous seal / logo that may have been "leaked", then I am likely through with my fandom regarding this organization.

I had lots, lots of great times as a Skins fan, but unfortunately looking back it seems I had more bad times than good times. Please keep in mind, I am young-ish (37 years old), so was never really "around" to see this Franchise with a good owner and during "good times".[/quote]

With the performance over the past 30 years the franchise had been bleeding fans like a vein had been open, but since the name change it's as if they opened up both the carotid and femoral arteries. Wouldn't surprise me at all if the fan base is now down over 70-80%.

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[quote=nonniey;1307585]With the performance over the past 30 years the franchise had been bleeding fans like a vein had been open, but since the name change it's as if they opened up both the carotid and femoral arteries. [B]Wouldn't surprise me at all if the fan base is now down over 70-80%[/B].[/quote]

You probably aren't too far off with this estimate. Almost everyone I know who were hard core fans 20 years ago either don't care anymore or only casually watch. I know zero kids who are WFT fans. The name change isn't as big a deal to them as Snyder being the owner is. As long as he's the owner they say they wont ever go back. Now that they have found other things to do Sunday afternoons instead of watching WFT games I am sure it will take a lot to have a chance at bringing them back.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1307556]I was born in 1969. My Dad was a huge Skins fan, and gave me and my brothers two choices growing up. Be a Skins fan, or, don't watch football. It was an easy choice. Growing up in Louisville meant that when the Skins were actually ON TV, they were special days. It also meant ALWAYS getting Dallas games. Which may be why my hate of the Cowboys is as strong as my love of the Redskins.

I vaguely remember the Kilmer-Theisman QB battle as my earliest Skins memory.

But the Joe Gibbs era was when the hook was set in me. What a glorious decade plus 1.

Man ... that was 30 freakin' years ago.

Maybe it's time to call it. Just stick to fantasy football, and hating the Cowboys.[/quote]

I still remember watching Super Bowl VII with the family. I was crushed that we lost. I remember Sonny rupturing his Achilles. I remember the I like Sonny/I like Billy bumper stickers.

In 2nd grade, our school day included "Centers" which was kind of crafts mixed with regular learning (it was still the Hippie era). We had a sewing center and all of us guys made Redskins pillows shaped like helmets.

Larry Brown, Roy Jefferson, Jerry Smith, Chris Hanburger. The arrival of Theismann and Riggins. The hiring of Joe Gibbs and so on.

[I][CENTER]"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die."

-- Roy Batty



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You guys are making me depressed...

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I watched that raiders game last night .. I realized I’m more of a fan of football in general than any one disfunctional team .. I am finding myself pulling for coaches and players .. other than Washington/Va I have no Ties to any city .. I can’t stand cowboys,giants,Eagles.. and was stoked when raiders moved to Vegas!

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[quote=rocnrik;1307605]I watched that raiders game last night .. I realized I’m more of a fan of football in general than any one disfunctional team .. I am finding myself pulling for coaches and players .. other than Washington/Va I have no Ties to any city .. I can’t stand cowboys,giants,Eagles.. and was stoked when raiders moved to Vegas![/quote]


Las Vegas is a natural home for the Raiders. It is the only example of a franchise moving I can think of that I think most people are ok with, while other moves (Chargers from San Diego for example) are looked down on.

And that stadium is sweet. Better than the Rams/Chargers (although that is nice). Better than Jerry's world. Better than the Falcons. The only other "new" stadium that I think compares is the Vikings.