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I think the feathers shirt-gate highlighted displeasure with the name and brand…moved it from the back burner. Like it or not, message has been sent

It needs to go sooner rather than later

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[quote=Chico23231;1362381]I think the feathers shirt-gate highlighted displeasure with the name and brand…moved it from the back burner. Like it or not, message has been sent

It needs to go sooner rather than later[/quote]

Yes, it certainly has and yes sooner rather than later should be the choice.

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[quote=Chico23231;1362381]I think the feathers shirt-gate highlighted displeasure with the name and brand…moved it from the back burner. Like it or not, message has been sent

It needs to go sooner rather than later[/quote]

^^^^This!

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I couldn't be happier with shirt Gate lol I dunno about a C tho... I'd keep the W above most else sans our logo.

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old uniforms were great, i'd love to have them back. W helmet is fine, but I do miss the old logo.

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Commanders to hire Lions executive Brandon Sosna for high-ranking front office role

[url]https://www.nfl.com/news/commanders-to-hire-lions-executive-brandon-sosna-for-high-ranking-front-office-role[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1362402]Commanders to hire Lions executive Brandon Sosna for high-ranking front office role

[url]https://www.nfl.com/news/commanders-to-hire-lions-executive-brandon-sosna-for-high-ranking-front-office-role[/url][/quote]Pretty good bio. Love the fact that he manages the salary cap and contracts. That is huge in this business. A seismic offseason for this franchise.

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@AlGaldi
The #Commanders with Adam Peters, Lance Newmark, Eugene Shen, Dave Gardi and now Brandon Sosna and David Blackburn are building an absolute powerhouse of a front office. Outstanding to see.

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[quote=MTK;1362409]@AlGaldi
The #Commanders with Adam Peters, Lance Newmark, Eugene Shen, Dave Gardi and now Brandon Sosna and David Blackburn are building an absolute powerhouse of a front office. Outstanding to see.[/quote]

2025 Super Bowl Champions!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1362380]I 100% disagree with this. I think Snyder knew his time was coming to an end and wanted to put a stamp on the team. This name is truly Snyderesque and there is 0 chance that Riveria had controlling input on the name. I do think it could have been a lot on Jason Wright, but Snyder is 100% responsible.

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Towards the end of his ownership tenure, all Snyder cared about is to get as much money as possible out of the team.

He took out a $55 million dollar loan under the team's name, was charging the team $10 mil annually to use his private jet, and even charged the team $4.5 mil to put the team logo on his private jet as "advertisement" ([url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/daniel-snyder-allegedly-charged-commanders-4-5-million-to-put-team-logo-on-his-private-jet-per-report/[/url]). You really think he gave two shits about the name change, something that was costing him money?

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[quote=MTK;1362409]@AlGaldi
The #Commanders with Adam Peters, Lance Newmark, Eugene Shen, Dave Gardi and now Brandon Sosna and David Blackburn are building an absolute powerhouse of a front office. Outstanding to see.[/quote]Is anyone else a little surprised that Jason Peters and Mayhew were retained with the current regime? Honestly though both would be goners after the Snyder era or at least after the Rivera era.

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[QUOTE=WCommandersfan99;1362416]Is anyone else a little surprised that Jason Peters and Mayhew were retained with the current regime? Honestly though both would be goners after the Snyder era or at least after the Rivera era.[/QUOTE]


(Jason Wright?) At first, yes. But these are big organizations that need to keep functioning during transitions. Plus they are useful in other ways to the new regime. Over time, just like water, they will settle to their rightful level.


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Mayhew and AP worked together before so no it's not a big surprise.

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[URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2024/5/21/24161702/the-washington-commanders-will-have-a-joint-practice-with-the-miami-dolphins"]Commanders will have a joint practice with the Miami Dolphins[/URL]

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[quote=Ruhskins;1362414]Towards the end of his ownership tenure, all Snyder cared about is to get as much money as possible out of the team.

He took out a $55 million dollar loan under the team's name, was charging the team $10 mil annually to use his private jet, and even charged the team $4.5 mil to put the team logo on his private jet as "advertisement" ([url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/daniel-snyder-allegedly-charged-commanders-4-5-million-to-put-team-logo-on-his-private-jet-per-report/[/url]). You really think he gave two shits about the name change, something that was costing him money?[/quote]

I'm sure he signed off on it ultimately, but did he really care that much about the name at that point knowing he had one foot out the door? I really doubt it. I think all he really cared about was how much he was going to get for selling.

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[quote=MTK;1362433][URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2024/5/21/24161702/the-washington-commanders-will-have-a-joint-practice-with-the-miami-dolphins"]Commanders will have a joint practice with the Miami Dolphins[/URL][/quote]

This will be a good test for our secondary guys

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Looks like we might be looking for a new kicker again

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Butker Mk 2? 🤔

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1362510]Looks like we might be looking for a new kicker again[/quote]Yeah doesn't sood good at all. Jaguars could be in hot water with the alcohol also. Better start looking yesterday.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1362511]Butker Mk 2? 🤔[/quote]

Naw nothing that serious, just sexual assault. 😵*💫

u gotta think on a plane full of witnesses they must feel pretty confident to bring this suit. McManus should get his bags packed especially if there is video

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1362511]Butker Mk 2? [emoji848][/QUOTE]


They both think women were put on Earth to serve men so… [emoji2371]

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[quote=Chico23231;1362520]Naw nothing that serious, just sexual assault. 😵*💫

u gotta think on a plane full of witnesses they must feel pretty confident to bring this suit. McManus should get his bags packed especially if there is video[/quote]


I know the toxic workplace happened under Snyder but I have to imagine Harris will be wanting to make sure it is not the same organization. I could see any gray area as weighing against McManus here.

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More of an NFL off season but [URL="https://x.com/ALL32NFL_/status/1772704974272700710?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1772704974272700710%7Ctwgr%5E5ec42f77fc32d0737fd17838ade0cb47a46a216d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hogshaven.com%2F2024%2F5%2F30%2F24162323%2Fdaily-slop-30-may-24-dont-plan-on-another-washington-commanders-name-change-anytime-soon"]this[/URL] breaks down the new kick-off for the 2024 season and scenarios.

Very curious to see how different teams approach this

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1362535]More of an NFL off season but [URL="https://x.com/ALL32NFL_/status/1772704974272700710?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1772704974272700710%7Ctwgr%5E5ec42f77fc32d0737fd17838ade0cb47a46a216d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hogshaven.com%2F2024%2F5%2F30%2F24162323%2Fdaily-slop-30-may-24-dont-plan-on-another-washington-commanders-name-change-anytime-soon"]this[/URL] breaks down the new kick-off for the 2024 season and scenarios.

Very curious to see how different teams approach this[/QUOTE]


Wow. She talked too fast. Lol. Anything is better than the boring way it is now. Guess ill have to wait to see it unfold to understand wth is going on.

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It sounds like they have only adopted it for one year as a trial. It does sound like it will make kickoffs more entertaining and far less predictable.

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[QUOTE=GridIron26;1362438]This will be a good test for our secondary guys[/QUOTE]


But the reverse is not true.


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I'd absolutely trade a 2nd for Tee Higgins if they reached an extension prior to the trade. He's a stud.

[url]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10122993-5-trade-packages-bengals-would-have-to-consider-for-tee-higgins-amid-nfl-otas[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1362569]I'd absolutely trade a 2nd for Tee Higgins if they reached an extension prior to the trade. He's a stud.

[url]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10122993-5-trade-packages-bengals-would-have-to-consider-for-tee-higgins-amid-nfl-otas[/url][/quote]

Gonna be honest, I can’t think of another time with more quality WRs.

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McManus cut:

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40265196/commanders-cut-brandon-mcmanus-sexual-assault-lawsuit[/url]

Kind of expected this for Quinn to institute a no bs policy. McManus may bigger problems than this soon though.

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sucks that we need a kicker again, but expected.

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If Mcmanus did it why aren't the cops involved? Why do these ladies want money instead of having him prosecuted?

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1362581]McManus cut:

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40265196/commanders-cut-brandon-mcmanus-sexual-assault-lawsuit[/url]

Kind of expected this for Quinn to institute a no bs policy. McManus may bigger problems than this soon though.[/quote]

New squad, gotta set the example. Not surprising - I'm guessing there isn't any shortage of witnesses who were on the plane.

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My guess is we didn’t know about McManus situation, kinda like we didn’t know about the other foot on Johnny in the draft.

Another knock against the proclaimed “infallible” FO. These guys have made multiple mistakes this offseason while also doing a lot of good things. But it’s been more mixed than folks want to talk about.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1362584]If Mcmanus did it why aren't the cops involved? Why do these ladies want money instead of having him prosecuted?[/quote]

Always difficult to decern the truth from the outside. As I understand it he burden of proof for criminal charges is greater than that for civil litigation, and doesn't get them compensation in the end If it was a targeted shake down why pick the kicker and not the star QB with a reputation to protect. As I said. It is difficult to know the truth from the outside.

Apparently Josh Harris still has a large share holding in the company that runs the airline, so likely his contacts fed him info others weren't able to get, may help to explain why the team cut him before the NFL had any chance to react.

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[quote=Chico23231;1362588]My guess is we didn’t know about McManus situation, kinda like we didn’t know about the other foot on Johnny in the draft.

Another knock against the proclaimed “infallible” FO. These guys have made multiple mistakes this offseason while also doing a lot of good things. But it’s been more mixed than folks want to talk about.[/quote]

I don't think anyone has referred to them as infallible, just giving the new setup the benefit of the doubt. Many still keeping their fingers crossed about the new OL coach.

With all of the physicals before the draft, especially for a guy with an injury, it is highly likely they knew about the other foot but weren't bothered that much, may have been why he slipped to us.

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wonder who they will try to bring in to be the new placekicker now ? with the release of mcmanus

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[quote=Chico23231;1362588]My guess is we didn’t know about McManus situation, kinda like we didn’t know about the other foot on Johnny in the draft.

Another knock against the proclaimed “infallible” FO. These guys have made multiple mistakes this offseason while also doing a lot of good things. But it’s been more mixed than folks want to talk about.[/quote]

Compare it to the FO under Snyder and Rivera. This FO looks like the Mount Olympus of Football Talent Evaluators in comparison. If you look for mistakes hard enough, you'll find some things that you can label as such. Since I don't expect the Commanders FO to act like a branch of the FBI, I'll let them slide on the events you mentioned.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1362584]If Mcmanus did it why aren't the cops involved? Why do these ladies want money instead of having him prosecuted?[/quote]

I don't know how jurisdictions and legal rights work when over international waters. I know in international waters it is a free for all.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1362584]If Mcmanus did it why aren't the cops involved? Why do these ladies want money instead of having him prosecuted?[/QUOTE]


What’s your point? That WFT shouldn’t cut him unless a crime is committed and proven in court?


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Idiot kickers aren't worth the time