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[quote=Grim21Reaper;333820]Not if they signed Aaron Brooks to replace him.[/quote]


:pffff:

Yeah, a turnover machine that the Raiders didn't even want and that doesn't know a page of our playbook would be a better backup than a guy who has started in our system and has played with the guys on the offense for a bunch of years.

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By the way, what's up with the Jaguars signing Tim Couch? What's that all about?

Re: What!!!? Brunell to the Falcons?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;334506]By the way, what's up with the Jaguars signing Tim Couch? What's that all about?[/quote]

I think the last time he played was '04? Talk about bust!

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Please get Brunell to the Falcons please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE=12thMan;334507]I think the last time he played was '04? Talk about bust![/QUOTE]

it was 03...and I always thought he had more talent, he just played on a horrible team.
Who knows, he could be the next Kurt Warner...maybe he needed time away.

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[quote=SmootSmack;334506]By the way, what's up with the Jaguars signing Tim Couch? What's that all about?[/quote]

What [I]is [/I]the deal here?

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Don't quote me on this, but I think I remember Brunell saying Washington was his final destination. I'll try to find a link.

Re: What!!!? Brunell to the Falcons?
 

[quote=GTripp0012;334139]Anytime we do this its subjective, but off the top of my tired brain:

Mark Brunell
Brad Johnson
Chris Simms
David Carr
Joey Harrington
Brian Griese
Brooks Bollinger
Gus Frerotte
Seneca Wallace
Kurt Warner
Trent Dilfer
Brady Quinn
Charlie Batch
Kyle Boller (maybe)
David Garrard
Jim Sorgi
Tim Rattay
Sage Rosenfels
Kellen Clemens
Craig Nall
Billy Volek
Billy Joe Tolliver
Billy Joel
Bill Nye the Science Guy
Jerry Porter (just ask him!)
The Saints' Waterboy
Aaron Carter (but not Quincy Carter)
and Patrick Ramsey

So no, I don't think Brooks is a top half backup. I don't really think he has any business left in this league, no matter what Pete Prisco says.[/quote]

Not that you had much credibility but Brunell was your first answer so I quit reading after that.

Midway through the season, Brunell could not run or throw the ball more than 8 yards down the field.

If you really think that Brunell is better than Aaron Brooks, you need to check into AA.

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[quote=SmootSmack;334506]By the way, what's up with the Jaguars signing Tim Couch? What's that all about?[/quote]


Maybe they are extremely desperate.

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[quote=Buster;334362]:pffff:

Yeah, a turnover machine that the Raiders didn't even want and that doesn't know a page of our playbook would be a better backup than a guy who has started in our system and has played with the guys on the offense for a bunch of years.[/quote]

There are college lines better than the Raiders' from last year.

I would consider Brooks' seasons at New Orleans, not the Raiders. When an organization is that dysfunctional you ignore anything that happened there.

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[quote=GTripp0012;334081][URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/[/URL][/quote]

Do you know what a "media outlet" is? It isn't a blog that pastes articles every now and then.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;334066]Offiss, how do you suggest we get a QB better than Mark Brunell this offseason and how much would you pay to compensate him?

Better QBs than Brunell are out there, but unless you want to go the Culpepper route, they are going to cost a lot more than we are paying Campbell.[/QUOTE]

Better than Brunell? How can you possibly do worse?

How about develpoing one of our backups, what cracks me up is everyone ridicules Snyder for going after everyone elses garbage, and yet that's exactly how many here think, as if we could never develope a backup, why don't we already have a backup in place? Which is the real question. Why have we had to waste time with Brunell and Collins in the first place? This never happened in the 80's, we alway's had legitamate backup's even if they had no game experience, Brunell has retarded the growth of this team the day he was signed, we were trying to build and race a ferrari, and we went to the retirement home to get someone to drive it.

IMO this all still stems from Gibbs reluctance to admit he royally screwed up by trading for a washed up QB and handing him 43 million, when he was about to be released, who would have probably landed as a backup somewhere, or starting for a lowsey team, which he basically did, only for a lot more money! As Riggins stated he still believes Gibbs is going to find a way to try and get Brunell back on the field.

Unless your team is built around a superstar QB and his ability to carry a team, then a backup should be able to win games for you, Gibbs teams through the years have been better at plugging in nobodies at QB and succeeding than anyone in the NFL. Brunell has proven he can't do it, give a kid a chance to prove that he can, at least you have the possibility that he can succeed. Bramlet should be that guy, and then allow Palmer to develope as the 3rd string QB, sorry but it needs to be done, it's time to take the old dog out back and put him out of his misery, and clear the way for the young dogs to step up!

But if you want a name who could possibly be had in a trade with experience I will give it to you, Charlie Frye, I believe he's stuck in a pathetic offensive scheme, I think this kid has the instinkts to be a very good QB, he looked like a play maker the few times I have watched him, in all liklyhood he's probably better than anyone we have with maybe the exception of Campbell? He is on the out's in Cleveland. Offer Brunell for him and see what the Browns say?:cheeky-sm He can bring his vast knowledge of the game and tutor Quinn.

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[quote=offiss;334705]But if you want a name who could possibly be had in a trade with experience I will give it to you, Charlie Frye, I believe he's stuck in a pathetic offensive scheme, I think this kid has the instinkts to be a very good QB, he looked like a play maker the few times I have watched him, in all liklyhood he's probably better than anyone we have with maybe the exception of Campbell? He is on the out's in Cleveland. Offer Brunell for him and see what the Browns say?:cheeky-sm He can bring his vast knowledge of the game and tutor Quinn.[/quote]Well, the ONLY thing good about Frye is that hes young. And of course that we could probably get him cheap. Here's why:

[URL="http://profootballreference.com/players/FryeCh00.htm"]Charlie Frye statistics - pro-football-reference.com[/URL]
[URL="http://profootballreference.com/players/BrunMa00.htm"]Mark Brunell statistics - pro-football-reference.com[/URL]

[URL="http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb.php"]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Football analysis and NFL stats for the Moneyball era - Authors of Pro Football Prospectus 2007[/URL]
[URL="http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb2005.php"]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Football analysis and NFL stats for the Moneyball era - Authors of Pro Football Prospectus 2007[/URL]

Frye has been picked off a bundle in his first two seasons, and I'm not sure exactly what you've seen in him to make you think that he can change that. Being young doesn't do much for us when he is nowhere near the QB Brunell is/was/can be.

FO's stats really put this in perspective better than the conventional numbers. Charlie Frye: worse than the readily available college QB. Brunell: Still pretty good, even at age 37.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;334676]Do you know what a "media outlet" is? It isn't a blog that pastes articles every now and then.[/quote]Do you know what a "blog" is?

I don't think you do because The Warpath does not qualify.

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[quote=offiss;334705]Better than Brunell? How can you possibly do worse?

How about develpoing one of our backups, what cracks me up is everyone ridicules Snyder for going after everyone elses garbage, and yet that's exactly how many here think, as if we could never develope a backup, why don't we already have a backup in place? Which is the real question. Why have we had to waste time with Brunell and Collins in the first place? This never happened in the 80's, we alway's had legitamate backup's even if they had no game experience, Brunell has retarded the growth of this team the day he was signed, we were trying to build and race a ferrari, and we went to the retirement home to get someone to drive it.

IMO this all still stems from Gibbs reluctance to admit he royally screwed up by trading for a washed up QB and handing him 43 million, when he was about to be released, who would have probably landed as a backup somewhere, or starting for a lowsey team, which he basically did, only for a lot more money! As Riggins stated he still believes Gibbs is going to find a way to try and get Brunell back on the field.

Unless your team is built around a superstar QB and his ability to carry a team, then a backup should be able to win games for you, Gibbs teams through the years have been better at plugging in nobodies at QB and succeeding than anyone in the NFL. Brunell has proven he can't do it, give a kid a chance to prove that he can, at least you have the possibility that he can succeed. Bramlet should be that guy, and then allow Palmer to develope as the 3rd string QB, sorry but it needs to be done, it's time to take the old dog out back and put him out of his misery, and clear the way for the young dogs to step up!

But if you want a name who could possibly be had in a trade with experience I will give it to you, Charlie Frye, I believe he's stuck in a pathetic offensive scheme, I think this kid has the instinkts to be a very good QB, he looked like a play maker the few times I have watched him, in all liklyhood he's probably better than anyone we have with maybe the exception of Campbell? He is on the out's in Cleveland. Offer Brunell for him and see what the Browns say?:cheeky-sm He can bring his vast knowledge of the game and tutor Quinn.[/quote]

Charlie Frye???? C'mon. Yes we all know Brunell is as washed up as an old wet rag. But I would much rather have Brunell backing up JC than Frye. Frye has no arm what so ever. I think Brunell has a better, and the more accurate arm than Frye. Plus who says Frye is available anyway? He has a chance to win the job in Cleveland. Even if Anderson beats him out, Crennel's job is on the line and I don't see them putting a rookie this year. So I'd look for Frye to be 2nd string this year.

Riggins is full of crap. JC deserves to get a full year and I think he would have to play real poorly to get yanked. We have way too much invested in him and we just have to let the guy play and live with his mistakes. He is a young qb w/ only 7 starts so you know he is going to make mistakes so we are just going to have to live with it.

Where Gibbs screwed up is by not starting JC from the get go last year.