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it was forever ago and i couldnt remember my password and any email i had it on was loooong gone it was over 4years ago.

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What Jamie Dukes pointed out is the inept offensive play calling on third down conversions. There is no way Jim Zorn will be successful with the playcalling he defended when asked by Sonny Jergenson. Two plays were called for Cooley and we were off side on both of them." Two plays to Cooley? Where was Ladell Betts and Mike Sellers to offset the tempo of the running game? Zorn should allow the running game to develop and then have the receivers run beyond the first down marker to have more success. Jason Campbell has to erase eight seasons of different offensive coordinators and stop locking in on one receiver. This was the worst performance I have seen for a first time coach for the Redskins. Spurrier wasn't this bad.

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[quote=SouperMeister;472833]Show me a QB who didn't suck at first in the WCO. Brett Favre was a turnover machine at first. I don't expect Campbell to look smooth in the offense until next season. He has to trust that his 2nd and 3rd reads will be there, which was the problem on the first play. For him to become a great QB, we have to be willing to suffer through Campbell's growing pains.[/quote]

It's unfortunate that a QB such as JC has to undergoe another offensive playbook. But his inability to make the reads will improve after this game. He certainly tried to get the ball out on third down conversions. But the playcalling was not favorable. This is a learning tool for everyone and if Jim Zorn thought he was going to ride this West Coast offense in the NFC East without serious opposition he is seriously mistaken.

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[quote=Mattyk72;472888]With the way JC looked he might want to spend MORE time with him.[/quote]

Or with Colt Brennan! Just kidding of course. But I think we'll find out over the next month that JC is not the QB of the future. I know it will suck, but that's my gut feeling. He took several steps backward after only being OK last year before his injuiry.

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I think the numbers speak for themselves. Campbell got me 8.66 Yahoo fantasy points. Whereas Manning only had 8.27 points. So clearly Campbell is the better QB :)

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[quote=SmootSmack;472950]I think the numbers speak for themselves. Campbell got me 8.66 Yahoo fantasy points. Whereas Manning only had 8.27 points. So clearly Campbell is the better QB :)[/quote]


Well just so you know, I have Colt Brennan as my starting QB and he got 25.0675 pts by just sitting on the bench

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Originally Posted by [B]cpayne5[/B] [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/24987-jc-is-not-what-i-thought-post472513.html#post472513"][IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/buttons/viewpost.gif[/IMG][/URL]
[I]There's much more to it than the play of your QB. JC didn't look great tonight, [B]but name me someone who did who wasn't returning kicks[/B]. JC gets a pass in my book until it becomes obvious that he is the weakest link.[/I]

Portis, Fletcher, Brooks.


Burress, Jacobs, Tuck......

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[quote=celts32;472514]JC didn't lose this game. We got whipped on both lines of scrimmage.[/quote]
We lost by nine points, if we got average qb play, we could have won.

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[quote=cpayne5;472581]So, with JC out from behind center, this team is a Super Bowl contender?[/quote]

How did you come up with that? Did I say we would be Super Bowl bound if JC was gone? Nope, I didn't. But do I think we will win games if he's gone? ... YES! ..

I give him until game 5 for Zorn to make the call to bench him (if he continues to do poorly).

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Jason may have been bad but I have not been satisfied with our WR coach....Stan "the man" Hixon. Since we picked him up our WR couldn't shake a cold. I'm not sure what he's teaching them to do but it's not good enough.

I will say the picture of Cerrato in the press box bug eyed was priceless. Then rubbing his forehead. lol. The only thing I could think of was you made your bed now lie in it. lol.

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I think last night showed why Billy McMullen should've made the team. He has sure hands and always puts himself in a position to make a catch. He may not rack up the YAC, but he moves the chains.

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[quote=SmootSmack;472950]I think the numbers speak for themselves. Campbell got me 8.66 Yahoo fantasy points. Whereas Manning only had 8.27 points. So clearly Campbell is the better QB :)[/quote]

This is how normal leagues would calculate it:
Manning 216 yards = 10 pts. 1 td = 6 pts. 1 int = -2 pts. Total = 14 points.
Campbell 133 yards = 6 pts. 1 td = 6 pts. Total = 12 points.

I do get your point...just wanted to point that out.

I was not impressed with Manning's performace overall. He looked VERY good in the first half, but looked terrible in the 2nd.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;472976]We lost by nine points, if we got average qb play, we could have won.[/quote]

Very true. Campbell will not run the ball and he certainly doesn't make his reads. But Zorn is the blame for underutilizing Cooley, Betts and Sellers in the offense. Where in the hell was Fred Davis to help with pass protection?

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[quote=SUNRA;472992]Very true. Campbell will not run the ball and he certainly doesn't make his reads. But Zorn is the blame for underutilizing Cooley, Betts and Sellers in the offense. Where in the hell was Fred Davis to help with pass protection?[/quote]

Not entirely accurate...sportscenter was analyzing the game, and Tim Hasslebeck just showed Cooley open with Campbell missing the fact that he was actually WIDE OPEN. Campbell is missing his reads. You can't blame all of this on Zorn.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;472493]........no turnovers, 1 sack against a great d-line, no help from the receivers I don't get how he was pathetic?[/quote]

I agree. They don't want him to make a mistake instead everything is criticized for what he doesn't do. They need to back off a bit and let him figure things out. If anything, the playcalling was suspect. I guess that the coaches don't really trust Jason Campbell to run the offense and there is no reason not to. He should have been running a no hurry offense, down by 2 scores with under 8 to go in the 4th quarter. Instead he was told to huddle up and they executed to running plays? They needed to huddle to say run right? There should be some blame on Zorn here because there wasn't enough urgency with the pacing at the end. The line played substandard and the receivers dropping balls doesn't help matters much.