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mooby 01-06-2017 11:22 PM

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 
[quote=warriorzpath;1161933]Too bad Gregg Williams couldn't come back as DC. He would the best choice to me. Everywhere he went, he had a good defense. Very aggressive and very creative.

Only bad thing with the Rams defense that Williams had trouble with - was they had issues with the Cowboys and Redskins o lines, led by Callaghan.[/quote]

Except for the Saints and the Rams, yeah he had good defenses. The Rams had a solid defense there, but they weren't top notch. And his Saints defenses were terrible, but I won't single him out because they've been terrible for at least 10 consecutive years now.

mooby 01-06-2017 11:24 PM

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1161939]Saw where Guenther(spelling?) From the Bengals was denied an interview with the Redskins for DC??

Experts on here tell me something: What would stop a guy from just quitting the team to sign on wherever they were offered the job? Is it just NFL etiquette? or could the bengals sue him or something.....[/quote]

I don't think your scenario will ever happen because most teams will grant interviews to a guy if it's a step-up scenario. Guenther coming here would be a lateral move, which they weren't clearly weren't cool with. I think they might also like him as HC-in-waiting once Marv retires.

MTK 01-07-2017 07:48 AM

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 
No you can't just quit your way out of a contract and then sign on with someone else.

SolidSnake84 01-07-2017 08:03 AM

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 
[quote=MTK;1161949]No you can't just quit your way out of a contract and then sign on with someone else.[/quote]

So you can't as in it's ethically wrong, or you can't because the new team under NFL rules would not be allowed to hire you, even if you quit your old team

MTK 01-07-2017 08:09 AM

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 
Sure he could quit, but he's under contract through 2017 with the Bengals, so unless they let him out of it, and why would they, he couldn't sign with someone else.

Chico23231 01-07-2017 08:51 AM

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 
I went with Wade because he is the most proven. I would invite the Bradley or the Wilkes hire as well. Getting rid of Barry early puts us in a good position with several nice coordinator choices. I feel like manusky is the fall back guy, I don't see him as the front runner.

Schneed10 01-07-2017 09:59 AM

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1161953]So you can't as in it's ethically wrong, or you can't because the new team under NFL rules would not be allowed to hire you, even if you quit your old team[/quote]

Quitting would be breach of contract. You could quit, purposely breach the contract, not get paid and open yourself up to a lawsuit. But the contract, even if you breach it, gives the rights to your labor to the Bengals and the Bengals only. So nobody can hire you.

Schneed10 01-07-2017 10:03 AM

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 
I'd be happy with Wade, Bradley, or GW. I'd be happiest with Wade.

If Gruden chooses Manusky, I will be highly skeptical and will be looking for him to be right on that hire or else Gruden belongs out on his ass. Head coach is not just about scheme, and coaching. You have to be a CEO capable of hiring the right talent. He's gotta hit on this hire.

Which makes it all the more unfathomable for him to pass up Wade if he can get him. Strongest resume by far.

kct1975 01-07-2017 10:13 AM

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;1161969]I'd be happy with Wade, Bradley, or GW. I'd be happiest with Wade.

If Gruden chooses Manusky, I will be highly skeptical and will be looking for him to be right on that hire or else Gruden belongs out on his ass. Head coach is not just about scheme, and coaching. You have to be a CEO capable of hiring the right talent. He's gotta hit on this hire.

Which makes it all the more unfathomable for him to pass up Wade if he can get him. Strongest resume by far.[/QUOTE]
I completely agree with everything that you said....I hope that Gruden interviews Wade Philips and Dan Synder provides enough incentive for him to sign with the Redskins.

MTK 01-07-2017 12:10 PM

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 
I'd rank my list like this

Phillips
Williams
Bradley
Wilks
Manusky

kct1975 01-07-2017 12:15 PM

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1161988]I'd rank my list like this

Phillips
Williams
Bradley
Wilks
Manusky[/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly!

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mredskins 01-07-2017 12:38 PM

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 
Williams would come back? Really? I thought bad blood there.

KI Skins Fan 01-07-2017 12:45 PM

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 
I voted Wade Phillips and it wasn't even close in my mind. I think he may be the best DC in football. Period. End.

SkinsGuru 01-07-2017 01:52 PM

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1161901]I don't care who it is, I just want to know if we're going to run a 3-4 or 4-3 defense next year.

Any thoughts?[/quote]

pretty much every defense these days are hybrids . . . ours was last year and will be again this year

Chief X_Phackter 01-07-2017 02:01 PM

Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 
Wilks
Phillips
Bradley
Williams
Manusky


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