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Get him!!! Better CJ than Moss - any day!!!

Imagine a receiver over 4'2" in our line-up. Campbell would be giddy.

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How about bryant Johnson from Arizona, he's a free agent that we could get for cheap, and he's the size we are looking for in a reciever

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[QUOTE=mauiRedskinbarn;423707]How about bryant Johnson from Arizona, he's a free agent that we could get for cheap, and he's the size we are looking for in a reciever[/QUOTE]

More of a headcase then CJ with no where near the talent. Might as well stay with Mix if we don't get a big #1

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[quote=jdlea;423701]The bonus money all accelerates into this season, however, that's only signing bonus money. All of the other bonuses (roster or whatever) go away. They don't count because he won't be on their roster, so what I head was, they would have $6 million accelerated into this year. Then, they would either have a relief of 3.2 or 2.8 (can't remember) for this season, so he would only count 2.8 or 3.2 this year. If he's gonna be a headache, $3 million is nothing against the cap to get rid of him.

After that, he would no longer count against the cap. He'd be off the books after this year.[/quote]

I see what you are saying, but it does not sound right.

The remaining signing bonus money he is owed is in the range of 8 mill, and if traded it is lump sum and counts against the cap.

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[QUOTE=Cincinnati Enquirer]The Bengals would take a loss of $8.03 million on the salary cap - money the club would not be able to spend on other players - if it traded or released Johnson before June 1, said Mark Levin, director of the Salary Cap and Agent Administration Department for the NFLPA.[/QUOTE]

Or I could be total wrong. (Actually Gil Brandt was wrong, but whatever...)

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[QUOTE=bearskins;423704]Get him!!! Better CJ than Moss - any day!!!

Imagine a receiver over 4'2" in our line-up. Campbell would be giddy.[/QUOTE]

Moss wins every jump ball. He don't play small. I'd be the first to admit he had a very bad year in 07. He'll be back on track this year for sure, back to pro-bowl caliber and RE will be super with Cooley alway the man and Sellers with Portis and Betts we just need a healthy line and we're golden crispy!!

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[quote=jdlea;423884]Or I could be total wrong. (Actually Gil Brandt was wrong, but whatever...)[/quote]

Chad Johnson is not the way to got for the Redskins IMO.

They should target Malcom Kelly in the draft. A stud WR that tips the scales at 6'-4" and 219 pounds.

That is just the BIG TARGET that JC would need and he would be around for a long time and you don't have to trade picks or players for him. This would be a long term solution.

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I would love to bring in Chad, but what about the locker room? What if he explodes or what if we can't control him and his character issues?

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hey i've been in germany for the past week or so i'm pretty out of the loop... how close is this to happening?

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[quote=NicknacK89;423922]hey i've been in germany for the past week or so i'm pretty out of the loop... how close is this to happening?[/quote]

No closer than it was a week ago. The Bengals are still maintaining that they aren't dealing him.

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[quote=davelavarra;423896]I would love to bring in Chad, but what about the locker room? What if he explodes or what if we can't control him and his character issues?[/quote]

Outside of this current situation, when has he ever been a major locker room problem?

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;423924]Outside of this current situation, when has he ever been a major locker room problem?[/QUOTE]

He threw a punch at Marvin Lewis in the locker room after a loss. Is that bad?

[url=http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php?t=92438]Esiason Confirms Chad Johnson Involved In Halftime Locker Room Fight - NYYFans.com Forum[/url]

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[quote=QBall;423936]He threw a punch at Marvin Lewis in the locker room after a loss. Is that bad?

[URL="http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php?t=92438"]Esiason Confirms Chad Johnson Involved In Halftime Locker Room Fight - NYYFans.com Forum[/URL][/quote]

Oh, well is THAT all?

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;423939]Oh, well is THAT all?[/QUOTE]

Can't change his spots..........can't teach old dog new tricks!

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I'd have punched Lewis too, for being such a terrible coach and playing a major role in bringing a lot of players with known legal problems to the team only to watch them get suspended one by one.

Chad Johnson (and Carson Palmer) both need to get out of that mess as soon as possible.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;423953]I'd have punched Lewis too, for being such a terrible coach and playing a major role in bringing a lot of players with known legal problems to the team only to watch them get suspended one by one.

Chad Johnson (and Carson Palmer) both need to get out of that mess as soon as possible.[/QUOTE]

Yeah just because you want Chad Johnson or think he's great does not take away from his actions. Throwing punches at a coach is crossing the line and that behavior is a cancer to any team.

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[quote=SmootSmack;423953][B]I'd have punched Lewis too, for being such a[/B] [B]terrible coach[/B] and playing a major role in bringing a lot of players with known legal problems to the team only to watch them get suspended one by one.

Chad Johnson (and Carson Palmer) both need to get out of that mess as soon as possible.[/quote]
if i wasant so lazy, i would dig up all the old threads. and then laugh at how many people wanted him as head coach here

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[quote=QBall;423936]He threw a punch at Marvin Lewis in the locker room after a loss. Is that bad?

[URL="http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php?t=92438"]Esiason Confirms Chad Johnson Involved In Halftime Locker Room Fight - NYYFans.com Forum[/URL][/quote]

The whole team is a mess.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;423965]The whole team is a mess.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, it would be a big risk and way too expensive a price tag IMO.

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[B]Around the Web: Latest player news from around the NFL[/B]
[B]Feb. 24:[/B] Believe the reports that the Redskins are going to try to pry away Johnson in a trade, says the [I]Denver Post[/I]. If Johnson isn't traded, the Redskins could turn their attention to Javon Walker, who, like Johnson, wants to be traded. Yet, unlike Cincinnati, Denver wants to accommodate Walker with a trade.

I wanted to start a new thread called: Around the Web: Latest player news from around the NFL, but did not want to get a whole lot of flack over it. I think one of the mods ought to think about it.
[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d806a3052&template=with-video&confirm=true]Around the Web: Latest player news from around the NFL[/url]

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THE REDSKINS ARE GOING TO GET IT DONE BY TUESDAY!

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[quote=goingdeep;425688]THE REDSKINS ARE GOING TO GET IT DONE BY TUESDAY![/quote]


stop shouting and do you have proff of this

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;425689]stop shouting and do you have proff of this[/quote]

Of course he doesn't. Hes a camp scrub trying to make a name for himself. Either way its up to us as Starters to help keep this place in line. Then again I have said my share of stupid stuff so maybe we could let this slide.

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Oh yea! done by Tues. .....oh wait are we not trying to get below the 118,000 cap and we are approx. 4 mil over? Who are we going to restructure to allow us to bring Ocho on board? We would have alot of work to do by next weekend...err Tues.

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[QUOTE=SBXVII;425699]Oh yea! done by Tues. .....oh wait are we not trying to get below the 118,000 cap and we are approx. 4 mil over? Who are we going to restructure to allow us to bring Ocho on board? We would have alot of work to do by next weekend...err Tues.[/QUOTE]

yeah this isnt madden when you can just offload and erase you cap penalties ocho cinco is a little harder to get in real life

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I think if we get Williams it will be a good receiving corps. If we get 85, it will be a great receiving corps. i have nothing against rw but i wan a big name receiver.

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A more frightening scenario cannot be imagined. The Trojan horse approacheth---spare the women and children.

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I'm starting to think that Recievers are overrated. As I said before the Giants main strenth was a great D-Line and a serviceable secondary. The Patriots had an 1337 passing attack. The Giants won.

The desire to get an overpriced premadonna seems futile when you look at the fact that we have an elite TE and a good recieving core that will be made better with the addition of a guy like Hacket. And if I'm wrong then we can use this year to save some cap space and sign Roy Williams next offseason.

Look we're not the Titans, we do have guys that can catch the ball and help us move it downfield. What we need to do is start rebuilding our offensive front with guys like Thomas, Jansen, and Kendell in their 30's, Samuals on the other hand will probably be effective till he's 35 years old so no need to worry about him. It would be a miracle if a guy like Albert fell to us in the second round but we should be fine with a reach on a mauler like Schuning. Right now I'm more concerned about getting our running game in gear.

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I would love to have CJ in B&G, but only if his price tag is not rediculous. I feel if we did happen to get a trade for him, it would cost us dearly, actually hard to tell how much we would have to give up just to get him, not including what we would have to give him to keep him.

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[quote=SmootSmack;423953]I'd have punched Lewis too, for being such a terrible coach and playing a major role in bringing a lot of players with known legal problems to the team only to watch them get suspended one by one.

Chad Johnson (and Carson Palmer) both need to get out of that mess as soon as possible.[/quote]

Who is responsible for bringing in the players? I don't think you can hang that all on Lewis. I think he's a good coach with a team full of selfish players. If you ask me Chad and Carson need to stop acting like babies and act like men. Carson Palmer is acting like he owns the team. He's calling out coaches to the media. Who the hell does that crap? Chad is running his mouth at the Pro Bowl every chance he gets. Enough is enough! Sorry but Cinn can keep Chad J. I don't want him. He'd just be another Lavar.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;425715]I'm starting to think that Recievers are overrated. As I said before the Giants main strenth was a great D-Line and a serviceable secondary. The Patriots had an 1337 passing attack. The Giants won.

The desire to get an overpriced premadonna seems futile when you look at the fact that we have an elite TE and a good recieving core that will be made better with the addition of a guy like Hacket. And if I'm wrong then we can use this year to save some cap space and sign Roy Williams next offseason.

Look we're not the Titans, we do have guys that can catch the ball and help us move it downfield. What we need to do is start rebuilding our offensive front with guys like Thomas, Jansen, and Kendell in their 30's, Samuals on the other hand will probably be effective till he's 35 years old so no need to worry about him. It would be a miracle if a guy like Albert fell to us in the second round but we should be fine with a reach on a mauler like Schuning. Right now I'm more concerned about getting our running game in gear.[/quote]

I agree with you 100%. No reason to get a drama queen wr when we can draft someone in the 3rd round and groom him. I'd like to see us draft a DE in round one and a guard in round 2. This guard from VA. (forgot his name) looks like he can walk in and start right away.

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Would I like CJ...yes. Would I like RW...yes. Would I like any of the tall WR that are available...yes. We need someone tall and big. Moss is our speed WR. Randell El has turned out nicely. I think we need one more big and tall WR to make the team something special.

We really only have two WR on the team unless it was the scheme of Gibbs that made all the other WR seem to lack talent. I would also say I was not impressed with our WR coach since it seemed like our WR had a hard time with routes and seperation. I hope the new WC scheme of Zorn's will bring out the best in our WR. I would still like a tall WR to give JC someone to throw the ball up to once in a while...like 3rd and a mile.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;425736]Who is responsible for bringing in the players? I don't think you can hang that all on Lewis. I think he's a good coach with a team full of selfish players. If you ask me Chad and Carson need to stop acting like babies and act like men. Carson Palmer is acting like he owns the team. He's calling out coaches to the media. Who the hell does that crap? Chad is running his mouth at the Pro Bowl every chance he gets. Enough is enough! Sorry but Cinn can keep Chad J. I don't want him. He'd just be another Lavar.[/QUOTE]

Not hanging it all on Lewis, just saying he shouldn't be absolved from blame

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1) He is under contract.......it must be a trade.

2)why come to DC with Campbell and leave atop 5 QB?

3)Your cap can't afford him.

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Lastest news:

[quote] The Redskins don't expect the Bengals to deal Chad Johnson.
Due to the cap implications, neither should anyone else. The Washington Post also mentions that new coach Jim Zorn wants to speak with Brandon Lloyd before he is cut. We still can't imagine Lloyd returning to D.C.

Source: [url=http://washingtonpost.com]washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines[/url][/quote]



[QUOTE]
[IMG]http://www.rotoworld.com/images/pixel.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.rotoworld.com/images/pixel.gif[/IMG]
Bengals coach Marvin Lewis says he hasn't spoken with Chad Johnson in the last ten days.
It's almost a surprise they were in contact that recently. Chad's disgruntled antics have slowed down over the past two weeks, but something is bound to happen late next month, when his $250,000 roster bonus comes due.
[B]Source:[/B] [URL="http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2008/02/lewis-disappointed-no-deal-with-stacy.asp"]Cincinnati Enquirer[/URL][/QUOTE]

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[quote=goingdeep;425688]THE REDSKINS ARE GOING TO GET IT DONE BY TUESDAY![/quote]

Any news, friend? Half a day gone by no news. Half a day left or atleast 12 hrs to work something out. If your going to make a bold prediction like this one then atleast keep us informed. Has Redskins1 left for Cincy? or has CJ been seen around the facility? Throw us a bone. lol.

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[quote=SBXVII;425805]Any news, friend? Half a day gone by no news. Half a day left or atleast 12 hrs to work something out. If your going to make a bold prediction like this one then atleast keep us informed. Has Redskins1 left for Cincy? or has CJ been seen around the facility? Throw us a bone. lol.[/quote]


............tick..tock

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.........tick..tock

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[quote=SBXVII;425886].........tick..tock[/quote]


Tic........Tac...........Toe............ Three in a row! Your mamma got shot by a G.I. Joe!

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somebody close this.