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[quote=Buster;707904]Anyone hear an update on his health? Sounds like we're really going to need him.[/quote]


Saw an interview on csn washington he said he's at 90-92% right now he will be ready for training camp. [url=http://www.csnwashington.com/]CSNwashington.com: Redskins, Wizards, Capitals, Nationals, D.C. United & More[/url]

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[URL="http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Qwq7BYOnDrM/0.jpg"]Paloffs? What? Paloffs? Ya kiddin' me? Paloffs?[/URL]

[URL="http://www.timinganddelivery.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/gangsta_street_bert_and_ernie_rap.bmp"]Fat-al Bert[/URL]

These are both classics. Some are just mad they didn't 'come up' with them.

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The name Fatal Bert makes me just as annoyed as it does you. Just how that s.o.b. makes me feel. Real irritable. So when he is finally done and gone, so will his name.

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I bet he was a no show because his fat ass was too out of shape to pass a physical. Unless he and his agents are total morons, they should they aren't going to get anywhere trying to strong-arm Allen and Shanny.

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[quote=GMScud;707935]I bet he was a no show because his fat ass was too out of shape to pass a physical. Unless he and his agents are total morons, they should they aren't going to get anywhere trying to strong-arm Allen and Shanny.[/quote]

It's possible but would sorta indicate he's fallen to pieces (mentally/emotionally). I mean being the selfish asshole and screwing your team is one thing...not getting into football shape so that even when he does get traded to his new favorite he can't pass a physical...that would be screwing himself.

...actually that's fine let him go &*$# himself lol.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;707874]I'm not certain, but I think it started when an overzealous newb poster started a new thread and mis-spelled "playoffs." Now, everyone over there thinks its "cool" to deliberately mis-spell playoffs. I'm not sure that my mis-spelling is accurate, but its something like "paloff." Its very annoying and retarded. Kinda like Fatal Bert.[/quote]

correct.. it was after our win streak in the 2005 season and some poster made the thread "paloffs is now!" (not sure how many !s there were anymore)

just became an ongoing joke

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Been hearing he is on the lake.

Not workin out.

If he shows up to training camp ( granted he is on the team ) I say work his ass off. No breaks for the fat man.

Of course he will say he has a hammy or a lower back injury, and ride the pine watching all the guys who have trashed him in the media busting thier asses to be a winning football team this year.

The guys on one of the morning show on Sirius today ( Jim Miller and I can't remember the other guys name ) were talking about AH for an hour and a half. Basically the whole day was spent on AH and the Redskins in general on Sirius today.

Alot of guys don't believe AH has much value on the trade market.

He is creating a certain amount of backlash around the NFL and I doubt you will see a contract this front loaded in the future.

I still believe that Vinny is the complete moron who put this much money front loaded into the contract and we are now the ones stuck with a player who doesn't want to play and has all the legal right to take the cash. Although it seems so ridiculous to all of us (especially those who are struggling right now) the bastard has the right to do what he wants.

So do we fire his ass and just right it off as the end of the VC/DS era completely or do they keep him and let him be this big of a distraction?

I say get what you can and get out. This is just the last of alot of bad decisions made by the morons of the old guard up there.

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Well that was a twitter report RT'd by some people. One guy said that he saw him on the lake in Knoxville and I think he heard that he's out there a lot. I'm not sure anyone has said that he's not actually working out though. Not saying that he is.. just that people are adding to the story it seems.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;707874]I'm not certain, but I think it started when an overzealous newb poster started a new thread and mis-spelled "playoffs." Now, everyone over there thinks its "cool" to deliberately mis-spell playoffs. I'm not sure that my mis-spelling is accurate, but its something like "paloff." Its very annoying and retarded. Kinda like Fatal Bert.[/quote]

Ha, I'll be honest. That's the one thing over there that I kind of get a kick out of for some reason.

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your right Truth.

That was the report. But would it really surprise any of us?

He showed up last year out of shape after he stated he wanted to come in here and cement himself as one of the best Dlinemen of all time. What a bunch of BS this guy is. A complete liar.

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Didn't know were to post this Rob Jackson gets the kiss of death

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Jackson_Feeling_More_Comfortable_At_Linebacker_126262.jsp]Jackson Makes Transition to Linebacker[/url]

the last time they did a write up on some one i beleive Sean Ryan the TE he was cut the next day.

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[quote=RememberRFK;707930]The name Fatal Bert makes me just as annoyed as it does you. Just how that s.o.b. makes me feel. Real irritable. So when he is finally done and gone, so will his name.[/quote]

Why continue to annoy the rest of us then?

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Watching Redskins Nation on Comcast, and they were just discussing the possible D-line starters. They didn't even mention Haynesworth's name in that discussion. Interesting, since Larry Michael and Matt Terl work for the organization.

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[quote=SmootSmack;707964]Why continue to annoy the rest of us then?[/quote]

a belated congratulations on reaching 30k, btw. did you celebrate with a glass of something tasty?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;707981]a belated congratulations on reaching 30k, btw. did you celebrate with a glass of something tasty?[/quote]

Thanks. I celebrated with the adding of chocolate to milk

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Love chocolate milk, hate Haynesworth

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Jim Miller on Sirius said the Redskins should, and could, suspend the player for one game right now, thus giving them a case for conduct detrimental to the player, and a way to recoup some part of the bonus. Does that sound plausible?

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On the other side of the equation:
[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Special-Master-ruled-in-favor-of-players-NFL-upset.html]Special Master ruled in favor of players, NFL upset | National Football Post[/url]
[QUOTE] NFL Special Master Stephen Burbank, the University of Pennsylvania law professor, ruled that the Miami Dolphins can't regain signing bonuses of $8,000 and $7,000 given to former undrafted free agent tight end Jared Bronson and offensive tackle SirVincent Rogers.

The two players quit shortly after being signed as undrafted rookie free agents.

...

Here's what NFL executive vice president Jeff Pash said about the victory for the players.

“The CBA was never intended to allow players who violate their contracts, commit crimes, or quit on their teams to keep bonus money paid to them in good faith by the clubs, whether it’s $7,000 or much more,” Pash said. “This is money that should be available to rookies and veterans who actually perform, but the union has continually sought rulings that allow players who breach their contracts to take the money and run.

"The illogical and unintended consequences of these rulings are one of the many reasons why the current CBA needs to be changed. We are committed to addressing this issue in our negotiations with the NFLPA and reaching a CBA that prevents these kinds of results in the future.”[/QUOTE]

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I was out of town last week so I really didn't have the chance to fully chime in on this. Like most everyone I'm so done with this guy. He's a bum and a thief. I was in wait and see mode with him this offseason but it's crystal clear now what this guy is all about, and it sure as hell isn't about the team.

I honestly don't care if we have to ship him out for a low pick or even if we cut him outright. Just get this piece of crap off the team ASAP.

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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/06/ray_lewis_on_haynesworth.html]D.C. Sports Bog - Ray Lewis on Haynesworth[/url]

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[quote=RememberRFK;707930]The name Fatal Bert makes me just as annoyed as it does you. Just how that s.o.b. makes me feel. Real irritable. So when he is finally done and gone, so will his name.[/quote]

THEN STOP USING IT!


I have the feeling that if we keep complaining, you'll keep saying it. Not every AH thread needs to turn into a discussion about a stupid nickname. Some of us are just as guilty as you in the attention it's getting, but I am thinking you get some thrills out of the uproar it causes.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;707951]Been hearing he is on the lake.

Not workin out.

If he shows up to training camp ( granted he is on the team ) I say work his ass off. No breaks for the fat man.

Of course he will say he has a hammy or a lower back injury, and ride the pine watching all the guys who have trashed him in the media busting thier asses to be a winning football team this year.

The guys on one of the morning show on Sirius today ( Jim Miller and I can't remember the other guys name ) were talking about AH for an hour and a half. Basically the whole day was spent on AH and the Redskins in general on Sirius today.

Alot of guys don't believe AH has much value on the trade market.

He is creating a certain amount of backlash around the NFL and I doubt you will see a contract this front loaded in the future.

I still believe that Vinny is the complete moron who put this much money front loaded into the contract and we are now the ones stuck with a player who doesn't want to play and has all the legal right to take the cash. Although it seems so ridiculous to all of us (especially those who are struggling right now) the bastard has the right to do what he wants.

So do we fire his ass and just right it off as the end of the VC/DS era completely or do they keep him and let him be this big of a distraction?

I say get what you can and get out. This is just the last of alot of bad decisions made by the morons of the old guard up there.[/quote]

I really think Snyder/Allen/Shanahan need to stand up to Albert, the players union and even the league if necessary and do all they can to get his contract voided and the team repaid.

It's clearly a breach of contract.

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AH will have the nflpa's support when it comes to the skins trying to get any money back from him. At the same time, I would think that some in the nflpa are not happy w/his behavior, fearing that the owners will look at this as a prime example of how contracts can be such a risk for them w/virtually no means of getting a return on their investment if a player refuses to cooperate.

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I hate Albert!!!!

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A quote from Ray Lewis:

"The response is, whatever you want me to do coach, let's get it done. If you want to switch the defense because you think it'll work better in a 3-4 -- I played in a 4-3 my whole life, but we switched up to a 3-4.

"Ok, Ray, you're gonna have to take on more guards, you're gonna have to do this and that.

"Ok, coach, I'll adjust. Do I like it? Hmm, nah. But I'll adjust, so let's do it, you know what I'm saying? And through that process, I won the defensive player of the year in the 4-3 in 2000, and in 2003 I came back and won the defensive player of the year in the 3-4. So it don't matter. Bottom line. Bottom line. Football is football, man,..."

There you have it. The difference between a sure HOF player (Lewis) and one who has the talent to be a HOF player but lacks the character and commitment to his team to achieve his stated goal of becoming a Hall of Famer (Haynesworth).

If Haynesworth had dedicated himself to the program the way his teammates have done, we'd all be praising him right now and we'd be looking forward to seeing him dominate for the Redskins during the regular season. But, as it stands, most of us can't wait until he is traded or cut.

Haynesworth will never be great because, unlike Ray Lewis, he's not made out of the right cloth.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;708039]A quote from Ray Lewis:

"The response is, whatever you want me to do coach, let's get it done. If you want to switch the defense because you think it'll work better in a 3-4 -- I played in a 4-3 my whole life, but we switched up to a 3-4.

"Ok, Ray, you're gonna have to take on more guards, you're gonna have to do this and that.

"Ok, coach, I'll adjust. Do I like it? Hmm, nah. But I'll adjust, so let's do it, you know what I'm saying? And through that process, I won the defensive player of the year in the 4-3 in 2000, and in 2003 I came back and won the defensive player of the year in the 3-4. So it don't matter. Bottom line. Bottom line. Football is football, man,..."

There you have it. The difference between a sure HOF player (Lewis) and one who has the talent to be a HOF player but lacks the character and commitment to his team to achieve his stated goal of becoming a Hall of Famer (Haynesworth).

If Haynesworth had dedicated himself to the program the way his teammates have done, we'd all be praising him right now and we'd be looking forward to seeing him dominate for the Redskins during the regular season. But, as it stands, most of us can't wait until he is traded or cut.

[B]Haynesworth will never be great because, unlike Ray Lewis, he's not made out of the right cloth[/B].[/quote]

Yep, that's pretty much it right there.

Someone like Lewis plays for the love and respect of the game. He wants to be remembered for his play on the field and his impact on the game. He cares about his legacy. He gets it.

AH on the other hand is just out for the $$. Too bad because the guy could be one of the all time greats if his head was screwed on right.

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KI skins fan - nice call on labeling hayensworth selfish in the previous haynesworth thread title you created a month or two ago. now, well last week when ish hit the fan, the little headlines on PTI and sportscenter telling you whats coming up next is "haynesworth is selfish" or wash po articles titled "teammates call haynesworth selfish".

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[quote=over the mountain;708045]KI skins fan - nice call on labeling hayensworth selfish in the previous haynesworth thread title you created a month or two ago. now, well last week when ish hit the fan, the little headlines on PTI and sportscenter telling you whats coming up next is "haynesworth is selfish" or wash po articles titled "teammates call haynesworth selfish".[/quote]

Thanks for the compliment.

I would have preferred to have been wrong about him.

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what gets me about AH not wanting to play in a 3-4 is the fact that Jay Ratliff (who many cowboys fans see as a DE) plays NT and has no trouble getting to the QB. We don't need no selfish players on this team. AH is done in DC.

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More of Haynesworth bad odor:

This clown is a worthless no good POS, just to be clear!

[url=http://blogs.knoxnews.com/draft/2010/06/clayton_bank_sues_albert_hayne.html]The Bank Draft[/url]

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[quote=kdogg3270;708057]what gets me about AH not wanting to play in a 3-4 is the fact that Jay Ratliff (who many cowboys fans see as a DE) plays NT and has no trouble getting to the QB. We don't need no selfish players on this team. AH is done in DC.[/quote]
hell if Maake stays healthy Big Al would probably mostly be on the end anyways

maybe he's too lazy to work out.. maybe he's too lazy to learn the new position though it'd be similar to a 4-3 DT I believe

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;708064]More of Haynesworth bad odor:

This clown is a worthless no good POS, just to be clear!

[url=http://blogs.knoxnews.com/draft/2010/06/clayton_bank_sues_albert_hayne.html]The Bank Draft[/url][/quote]

While we're at it...if there is a tape, not good for Albert

[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/06/02/2010-06-02_stripper_claiming_washington_redskins_defensive_tackle_albert_haynes_knocked_her.html]Stripper claims Washington Redskins star Albert Haynesworth knocked her up, sues for $10M[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;708073]While we're at it...if there is a tape, not good for Albert

[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/06/02/2010-06-02_stripper_claiming_washington_redskins_defensive_tackle_albert_haynes_knocked_her.html]Stripper claims Washington Redskins star Albert Haynesworth knocked her up, sues for $10M[/url][/quote]

let's pretend that she wins 10m and he doesn't show up to camp and has to forfeit another what was it.. 18m? suddenly that 30 some mil wasn't much and I'd guess that at least the other 3 or such of it is already gone

publicity stunt.. we allow Haynesworth to buy his way out for 10m and donate it to some single mothers foundation

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;708064]More of Haynesworth bad odor:

This clown is a worthless no good POS, just to be clear!

[url=http://blogs.knoxnews.com/draft/2010/06/clayton_bank_sues_albert_hayne.html]The Bank Draft[/url][/quote]

I wonder if that was for the new boat

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[quote=SmootSmack;708073]While we're at it...if there is a tape, not good for Albert

[URL="http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/06/02/2010-06-02_stripper_claiming_washington_redskins_defensive_tackle_albert_haynes_knocked_her.html"]Stripper claims Washington Redskins star Albert Haynesworth knocked her up, sues for $10M[/URL][/quote]

It must have been a typo..? Star my ass. The "star" is falling and will soon end up broke.

As for the boat, who knows with this fool. ZERO Integrity, this fat little kid was and will never be a man!

[B]Stripper claims Washington Redskins [U][B]star[/B][/U] Albert Haynesworth knocked her up, sues for $10M[/B]

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;708064]More of Haynesworth bad odor:

This clown is a worthless no good POS, just to be clear!

[url=http://blogs.knoxnews.com/draft/2010/06/clayton_bank_sues_albert_hayne.html]The Bank Draft[/url][/quote]

This right here has him going bankrupt a few years after he stops playing. Why cant you pay that loan if you just cashed a $21mil check? He must have some real f-ed up people working for him.

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I would agree. If not sooner. You attract what you are.

This fool is a no good leach and has a bunch I'm sure surrounding him. He is a train wreck waiting to happen. It's not if but when.


[quote=warpaint;708091]This right here has him going bankrupt a few years after he stops playing. Why cant you pay that loan if you just cashed a $21mil check? He must have some real f-ed up people working for him.[/quote]

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;708064]More of Haynesworth bad odor:

This clown is a worthless no good POS, just to be clear!

[url=http://blogs.knoxnews.com/draft/2010/06/clayton_bank_sues_albert_hayne.html]The Bank Draft[/url][/quote]

I wonder why he took out that loan. You'd think he would be loaning money to the bank, not the other way around.

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As someone else mentioned this guy is simply a walking piece of shit. Even the old timers were bashing him out at that golf tournament at Landsdowne. IMO he can't come back here. I'd just let him keep the money and tell him to stay home. Not sure they can do that but I'd try. I wouldn't want to loser anywhere near my team.

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[quote=tryfuhl;708077]I wonder if that was for the new boat[/quote]

That's what I wondered too. Regardless, it's ridiculous for him to be in default on ANYTHING at this point!