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If I have to choose between the two, I'm still taking Haynesworth.


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Dockett is calling out Haynesworth because he's not living up to the hype or fulfilling his potential. People who represent the best in their field owe it to each other to be the best. Haynesworth is not only letting down the Redskins, he's letting down all elite defensive lineman, IMO.

Would Einstein be wrong to call out Neils Bohr if he didn't come correct?

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;716586]Dockett is calling out Haynesworth because he's not living up to the hype or fulfilling his potential. People who represent the best in their field owe it to each other to be the best. Haynesworth is not only letting down the Redskins, he's letting down all elite defensive lineman, IMO.

Would Einstein be wrong to call out Neils Bohr if he didn't come correct?[/quote]

That's a good point, because when Dockett starts talking new contract next year, a lot of teams are going to be thinking the last time a DT was paid a truckload of money, look what happened. It's not Dockett's fault, but it works that way sometimes

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I just saw a video of the freakin sports anchor for the local Fox station and she just did the test that AH takes and she almost passed it. lol. C'mon Al!!!!! Her name in Lindsey...not Czarniak on NBC, there is another one and she's pretty cute too. It's on Yahoo.

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[quote=SmootSmack;716588]That's a good point, because when Dockett starts talking new contract next year, a lot of teams are going to be thinking the last time a DT was paid a truckload of money, look what happened. It's not Dockett's fault, but it works that way sometimes[/quote]


I agree with this except i think as these things don't happen in a vacuum it's entirely possible the opposite happens in this case. Dockett is a high motor guy that tries every play 100%. He also has been very public of his criticism of Haynesworth's actions. Paraphrasing: "i will play any position, and do anything the coach asks me for that kind of money."

Albert gave Dockett a platform to advertise his personality.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;716586]Dockett is calling out Haynesworth because he's not living up to the hype or fulfilling his potential. People who represent the best in their field owe it to each other to be the best. Haynesworth is not only letting down the Redskins, he's letting down all elite defensive lineman, IMO.

Would Einstein be wrong to call out Neils Bohr if he didn't come correct?[/quote]

Einstein: "Take off that skirt and run that stinking 300 yard shuttle, Bohr, you lazy quantum ass!"

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[quote=Lotus;716598]Einstein: "Take off that skirt and run that stinking 300 yard shuttle, Bohr, you lazy quantum ass!"[/quote]

Bohr: "Skirts are all relative, Albert"

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Just saw that Golic will be attempting the conditioning test live @ 4:00pm. Don't know if anyone else has mentioned this yet... but it should be entertaining.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;716586]Dockett is calling out Haynesworth because he's not living up to the hype or fulfilling his potential. People who represent the best in their field owe it to each other to be the best. Haynesworth is not only letting down the Redskins, he's letting down all elite defensive lineman, IMO.

Would [B]Einstein[/B] be wrong to call out Neils Bohr if he didn't come correct?[/quote]

Is this Norman Einstein your talking about? LOL.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;716586]Dockett is calling out Haynesworth because he's not living up to the hype or fulfilling his potential. People who represent the best in their field owe it to each other to be the best. Haynesworth is not only letting down the Redskins, he's letting down all elite defensive lineman, IMO.

Would Einstein be wrong to call out Neils Bohr if he didn't come correct?[/quote]

Even more than that, I think AH is embarrassing to pro athletes everywhere, and especially to the average Joe making $30k a year while supporting a family.

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[quote=Mattyk;716604]Even more than that, I think AH is embarrassing to pro athletes everywhere, and especially to the average Joe making $30k a year while supporting a family.[/quote]

I think JaMarcus Russell beats him by a hair on that one. But yeah, it is embarrassing.

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Here is the TV reporter almost passing the test.

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It's amusing all of these news anchors and others (Golic) are taking the test...but none of them will have Shanahan as their judge...just saying.

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[quote=Mattyk;716604]Even more than that, I think AH is embarrassing to pro athletes everywhere, and especially to the average Joe making $30k a year while supporting a family.[/quote]


Exactly. It's ridiculous behavior. The guy is quite simply an embarrassment as a human being.

Let's not forget his reckless driving paralyzed someone.

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[quote=Buster;716609]It's amusing all of these news anchors and others (Golic) are taking the test...but none of them will have Shanahan as their judge...just saying.[/quote]

The test has specific instructions and you're being timed. That's the judge, not MS. Murphy missed it by 8 seconds. Pretty damn good for someone that is probably not training for this test.

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[quote=Buster;716609]It's amusing all of these news anchors and others (Golic) are taking the test...but none of them will have Shanahan as their judge...just saying.[/quote]

It was funny at first, now seeing everyone and their mother running shuttles is getting old quick.

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;716608]Here is the TV reporter almost passing the test.

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Is she supposed to be rounding off at the end like that?

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Mike Golic passed the test on NFL Live. His pace was extremely slow buthe did pass the test right on the money. Just giving a little more gas he could pass it no problem. It really was enlightening to watch and I am sure it will be reaired.

It pisses me off even more that AH just cant pass the damn test.

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yeah after now knowing that AH knew about this test in advance and still failed is really pathetic. he deserves to be going through what MS is putting him through.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;716630]Mike Golic passed the test on NFL Live. His pace was extremely slow buthe did pass the test right on the money. Just giving a little more gas he could pass it no problem. It really was enlightening to watch and I am sure it will be reaired.

It pisses me off even more that AH just cant pass the damn test.[/quote]

I really had no idea in my head how difficult it would be to pass that test. After seeing Golic run and the slow pace he was running come on Albert!
If u can't pass that test your just one lazy SOB. I've not worked out in a long time and I have no doubt that I could go out and run that right now and pass it easily.

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[quote=Mattyk;716620]It was funny at first, now seeing everyone and their mother running shuttles is getting old quick.[/quote]

this whole situation would have been funny if it was the cowboys or the rams. but it's the skins and it's been goin on for too long now and i'm sick of it.

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The worst part of this whole ordeal is that it could have been avoided on day one if his fat, stupid ass would have just taken a piss before he came out the first time. Everybody said he smoked it the first run out and it's been downhill from there. No question in my mind that he's tanking it now to force Shanny's hand.

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[quote=Paintrain;716643]The worst part of this whole ordeal is that it could have been avoided on day one if his fat, stupid ass would have just taken a piss before he came out the first time. Everybody said he smoked it the first run out and it's been downhill from there. No question in my mind that he's tanking it now to force Shanny's hand.[/quote]

Eh, I don't even let this bother me anymore. Shanny has made his point, and he'll decide when this ends. End of story.

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[quote=skinsfan69;716414]I don't understand why his knee was swelling up. If he really was training hard to get in football shape during the off season then this wouldn't be an issue. Oh well....seems like he's just going to be standing around while this drags out another two weeks.[/quote]

There is a big difference between the work out AH probably participates in and working out in order to have endurance. AH probably worked out in a manner in which helps his short quick bursts and getting off the ball quickly plus weight lifting in order to be stronger. That style of work out has nothing to do with jogging a mile or more every day in order to have endurance to pass this test.

Most likely his knee is flaring up due to the fact its not ready to run all those yrds. He should have been doing more running so his knees would be prepared for these shuttles.

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Al's lazy ass just doesn't want to practice.. it's really starting to piss me off. I tried to defend him, saying that Shanny is making this a big situation and Shanny is being stubborn trying to send a message... but eventually you have to just take the damn test. There is no reason he shouldn't have passed it already, now he's the one turning this into a big deal.

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[quote=Kindoy;716651]Al's lazy ass just doesn't want to practice.. it's really starting to piss me off. I tried to defend him, saying that Shanny is making this a big situation and Shanny is being stubborn trying to send a message... but eventually you have to just take the damn test. There is no reason he shouldn't have passed it already, now he's the one turning this into a big deal.[/quote]

From Shanahan's comment this doesn't seem to be the case. Besides, the more times he fails, the more that it looks bad on him (if that is even possible anymore). As some people have said, he will pass eventually or at least he will end up in practice, it's just whenever Shanahan decides; which I don't have a problem with.

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Whatever the case, he ain't learning the defense sitting on the sidelines and hitting the treadmill.

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[quote=Ruhskins;716652]From Shanahan's comment this doesn't seem to be the case. Besides, the more times he fails, the more that it looks bad on him (if that is even possible anymore). As some people have said, he will pass eventually or at least he will end up in practice, it's just whenever Shanahan decides; which I don't have a problem with.[/quote]

i don't think it's possible for him to look worse, but it's not like he really cares. There was just an interesting topic on Around the Horn... if Al never passes the test and sits the whole season out who would be the winner? Al getting paid zillions of dollars to sit on the sideline or Shanny for sticking to his guns?

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[quote=Buster;716572]If I have to choose between the two, I'm still taking Haynesworth.


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Choose? can we simply make AH look awsome this yr in whatever position he plays, maybe he likes what roll he plays in, and next yr pick up Dockett and have both on the defense? lol. It would be a beast of a defense.

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Actually, Albert did try to run it today, but it acted up on the 3rd leg of the first trial.

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[quote=Paintrain;716643]The worst part of this whole ordeal is that it could have been avoided on day one if his fat, stupid ass would have just taken a piss before he came out the first time. Everybody said he smoked it the first run out and it's been downhill from there. No question in my mind that he's tanking it now to force Shanny's hand.[/quote]

I feel the same way but if his knees show visible signs of swelling then I wouldn't consider it tanking.

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[quote=Paintrain;716643]The worst part of this whole ordeal is that it could have been avoided on day one if his fat, stupid ass would have just taken a piss before he came out the first time. Everybody said he smoked it the first run out and it's been downhill from there. No question in my mind that he's tanking it now to force Shanny's hand.[/quote]

that's what i'm saying. he's been tanking it from day 1. Al's going to pass it when he wants to so he has to practice as little as possible while still getting his money and playing time (which i don't think he really cares about too much either).

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[quote=Kindoy;716660]i don't think it's possible for him to look worse, but it's not like he really cares. There was just an interesting topic on Around the Horn... if Al never passes the test and sits the whole season out who would be the winner? Al getting paid zillions of dollars to sit on the sideline or Shanny for sticking to his guns?[/quote]

I read somewhere that the team technically could put AH on the PUP list or something like that which would keep him from playing here or anywhere and allow them to call him back up when they were ready. I kinda got the impression it might even effect his salary however I could be wrong about that. But in any event it would embarrassse him a little..... maybe. lol.

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Let me get this straight. Docket is 290 pounds yet still has less than 10% body fat? That's freaking insane.

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[quote=SBXVII;716650]There is a big difference between the work out AH probably participates in and working out in order to have endurance. AH probably worked out in a manner in which helps his short quick bursts and getting off the ball quickly plus weight lifting in order to be stronger. That style of work out has nothing to do with jogging a mile or more every day in order to have endurance to pass this test.

Most likely his knee is flaring up due to the fact its not ready to run all those yrds. He should have been doing more running so his knees would be prepared for these shuttles.[/quote]

well being an effective NFL line men means you need endurance. so he should be training for both.

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[quote=SBXVII;716667][B]I read somewhere that the team technically could put AH on the PUP list or something like that which would keep him from playing here or anywhere and allow them to call him back up when they were ready.[/B] I kinda got the impression it might even effect his salary however I could be wrong about that. But in any event it would embarrassse him a little..... maybe. lol.[/quote]

if thats true, then i hope thats exactly what the skins do. i say screw fat al, the money has already been paid so screw it. let fat al just rott away, maybe even rott his career away. who really cares anymore? i sure don't.

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[quote=Gtothearry;716634]I really had no idea in my head how difficult it would be to pass that test. After seeing Golic run and the slow pace he was running come on Albert!
If u can't pass that test your just one lazy SOB. I've not worked out in a long time and I have no doubt that I could go out and run that right now and pass it easily.[/quote]

It sounds like it may be difficult, but after watching the thing I agree. I may be able to pass it with a week of training let alone an offseason in which I lost 35 pounds.. This whole episode is dragging on far to long for something that should be easy for a NFL athlete.

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I think AH wants out and is playing games at this point. It is a tit for tat kind of thing. Yeah it could be the knee thing also as some have said, but losing 35 lbs would alleviate that problem to a certain extent. I say he is jerking the Skins around.

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I guess you could be right, but I thought there was some actual physical evidence that the trainers saw? Swelling in his knee. I am not disagreeing with you either.

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I mean sure the knee could be an issue, but why keep trying to do it, if it is an issue? Just tell the coaches you are having knee problems and deflate the hype/story and just wait a couple weeks. He can observe from the sidelines and study his playbook til the swelling goes down or he gets treated.