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Brett Farve made sense for once. Funny I'm using a post from an article with a spelling error.

"I'm not pissed," Favre said. "It's football. I don't think anything less of those guys. I'm not going to make a big deal about it. In all honesty, there's a bounty of some kind on you on every play."

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;892576]This is so over blown. I bet guys like George Allen, Bud Carson, and Jim Johnson are rolling over and :vomit:. While Buddy Ryan & Dick Lebeau are shaking their head.[/quote]

Very much over blown.

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[quote=SmootSmack;892547]You don't reward a player for trying to get someone carted off the field, that is not the culture of football. Not at any level[/quote]

Players have been getting handouts for years, not for carting guys off the field but for things like...int's, forcing turnovers, most tackles, sacks, special teams hits and so on....this has gone on for years and it went on here when Gibbs 1 coached. Williams crossed the line if he wanted someone severly injured. But all these things I mentioned is not a big deal.

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[quote=skinsfan69;892639]Players have been getting handouts for years, not for carting guys off the field but for things like...int's, forcing turnovers, most tackles, sacks, special teams hits and so on....this has gone on for years and it went on here when Gibbs 1 coached. Williams crossed the line if he wanted someone severly injured. But all these things I mentioned is not a big deal.[/quote]

Well it's technically illegal (from a CBA/Salary Cap standpoint) but I agree that in the grand scheme rewarding someone for things like turnovers are not a big deal. But these bounties reportedly go beyond that.

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[url=http://sportsradiointerviews.com/2012/03/06/nfl-bounties-saints-gregg-williams-bill-romanowski-media/]Sports Radio Interviews » Blog Archive » Bill Romanowski Believes the Media is Blowing the NFL Bounty Situation Out of Proportion[/url]

heard Romo on the Rome show today. he made some good points, but man he comes across as a d-bag

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jim rome is still employed?

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After reading the statement, how does Mickey Lomis still have a f*cking job? He is responsible for running the organization and the league came to him, told him to stop and he blew them off?

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[quote=Chico23231;892654][url=http://sportsradiointerviews.com/2012/03/06/nfl-bounties-saints-gregg-williams-bill-romanowski-media/]Sports Radio Interviews » Blog Archive » Bill Romanowski Believes the Media is Blowing the NFL Bounty Situation Out of Proportion[/url]

heard Romo on the Rome show today. he made some good points, but man he comes across as a d-bag[/quote]

Rome on Rome is douchebag overload. How anyone listens to that show has baffled me for years.

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[quote=Chico23231;892658]After reading the statement, how does Mickey Lomis still have a f*cking job? He is responsible for running the organization and the league came to him, told him to stop and he blew them off?[/quote]

And he'll still be laughing unless their Super Bowl victory is stripped from them; since, after all, that is the ultimate goal of playing in the NFL (for some).

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[quote=Paintrain;892744]Rome on Rome is douchebag overload. How anyone listens to that show has baffled me for years.[/quote]

People like others they can relate to. More then enough d-bag sport fans to generate an audience.

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[quote=Paintrain;892744]Rome on Rome is douchebag overload. How anyone listens to that show has baffled me for years.[/quote]

Jim Rome was ****ing god in my world circa the early 2000s before 980 dumped him and I was a middle schooler. Those days are over though, but he's still a beast. :laughing-

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Jim Rome......pfffftttt
He's made a living by acting like a prick.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;892771]Jim Rome......pfffftttt
He's made a living by acting like a prick.[/quote]

That's what makes him so funny.

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I used to tune in to Rome back in the day, but now with Sirius, AM radio is such an after thought.

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i liked when he had red auerbach on. jim rome couldn't keep many facts straight

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;892778]That's what makes him so funny.[/quote]

exactly...most guys on the radio who are worth a sh*t are pricks. Steve Czabn, J Rome, H.Stern...

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if anyone can post the vid of red auerbach with jim rome, i'll mail you a card with coins. please

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Sharper says he knows who the "snitch" is and said the player had a vendetta against the team. It's probably pretty obvious who it is if we just look at the teams through the years. Its someone who was not on the team last season (told the nfl about it last year), and someone who was on the team when the allegations began. I haven't done any research about this but Shockey and Brown come to mind as possibilities.

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Seriously doubt it's Brown...I think it's Kim Kardashian

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[quote=SmootSmack;892877]Seriously doubt it's Brown...I think it's Kim Kardashian[/quote]

Vendetta against Reggie Bush, even though he's in MIA now? Seems something she would be dumb enough to do

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'twas a joke. Kim's a sweetheart. She wouldn't hurt a fly.

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[quote=skinsfan69;892639]Players have been getting handouts for years, not for carting guys off the field but for things like...int's, forcing turnovers, most tackles, sacks, special teams hits and so on....this has gone on for years and it went on here when Gibbs 1 coached. Williams crossed the line if he wanted someone severly injured. But all these things I mentioned is not a big deal.[/quote]



.......evidently you're incorrect becuase if the NFL is going to fine your players take away draft picks from your team and suspend your head coach and bann your former D cordinator.....it's a big deal.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8276ea66/article/former-redskin-talks-of-100-bonuses-handed-out-by-joe-gibbs?module=HP11_content_stream]NFL.com news: Former Redskin talks of $100 bonuses handed out by Joe Gibbs[/url]


Looks like Gibbs 1.0 was handing out cash himself for "big plays". Granted, it was under the rules at the time because there were no rules regarding this.


[quote]"In the meeting after the game, Joe Gibbs would come in, he’d have a fistful of $100 bills," Starke told ESPN on Monday night, via The Washington Post. "And if Dexter (Manley) knocked the quarterback down three times, he would get three $100 bills. And Joe would pass the money out in the meeting, and we would have to duck."

Gibbs told the Post on Tuesday that such incentive-based pay was within NFL rules at the time.

"In my first stint coaching the Redskins, we did have an incentive program in place to recognize the guys for outstanding plays made within the rules of the game," Gibbs said. "Back then there was no salary cap and the incentive program we used was within the league rules. We had all kinds of incentives, including dinners at local restaurants, radios, the chance to sit in a La-Z-Boy recliner during team meetings and cash rewards. To be clear -- we only used rewards as a motivational tool and to recognize the guys who made positive plays in the game each week."[/quote]

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Apples and oranges to what we're talking about today.

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[quote=Mattyk;892998]Apples and oranges to what we're talking about today.[/quote]

Yes. It's not like Gibbs 1.0 was warned by the league for breaking rules (and the rules were different) and then egregiously continued.

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Not only was it legal under Allen and Gibbs 1.0, but the medical community didn't understand the repercussions of repeated concussions on players. My whole family was going crazy when Dexter Manley knocked Danny White out in the playoffs and I'm sure he got a "bonus" the next day. But I don't think anybody viewed it as hurting him, just knocking him out.

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[quote=Lotus;893010]Yes. It's not like Gibbs 1.0 was warned by the league for breaking rules (and the rules were different) and then egregiously continued.[/quote]

I didn't post that to say OMG LOOK GIBBS WAS DOING IT. I even said there were no rules in regards to this type of activity. I posted to show it's was/is a common thing.

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i just wish someone would show me what hits were illegal and not punished. also if all of this is so bad then why are the only people who are complaining are in the media but players and former player dont see an issue

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[quote=redskins forever;893046]i just wish someone would show me what hits were illegal and not punished. also if all of this is so bad then why are the only people who are complaining are in the media but players and former player dont see an issue[/quote]

One of the issues, and in the end the one that makes it a big problem, is that the Saints and GW were told they were being looked into, and told to stop specific practices. They agreed and said they would, but then kept doing it. I am sure there were ways they could have altered it, and been in compliance with what the league was looking for, but they chose not.

That's a problem, and they are probably gonna get hammered.

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You know what I was thinking, what if the 'Snitch' who ratted out the saints about there illegal hits was Steve Gleason the guy who now has ALS...that would be a twist!

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george starke is a turd

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[quote=NC_Skins;892994][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8276ea66/article/former-redskin-talks-of-100-bonuses-handed-out-by-joe-gibbs?module=HP11_content_stream]NFL.com news: Former Redskin talks of $100 bonuses handed out by Joe Gibbs[/url]


Looks like Gibbs 1.0 was handing out cash himself for "big plays". Granted, it was under the rules at the time because there were no rules regarding this.[/quote]

You believe what a coke head has to say? **** Starke!! I hated him as much as Hall, Mr. hold on every play.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;893073]You believe what a coke head has to say? **** Starke!! I hated him as much as Hall, Mr. hold on every play.[/quote]

Gibbs admits to giving bonuses for big plays within the rules, and back then it wasn't against league policy either.

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[quote=Mattyk;893076]Gibbs admits to giving bonuses for big plays within the rules, and back then it wasn't against league policy either.[/quote]

Eddie DeBartolo and Bill Walsh were notorious for this also. I still say screw Starke, he is an asswipe.

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[quote=NC_Skins;892994][URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8276ea66/article/former-redskin-talks-of-100-bonuses-handed-out-by-joe-gibbs?module=HP11_content_stream"]NFL.com news: Former Redskin talks of $100 bonuses handed out by Joe Gibbs[/URL]


Looks like Gibbs 1.0 was handing out cash himself for "big plays". Granted, it was under the rules at the time because there were no rules regarding this.[/quote]

I wonder what Dexter got when he knocked out Danny White.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;893073]You believe what a coke head has to say? **** Starke!! I hated him as much as Hall, Mr. hold on every play.[/quote]

Why so much hate for Starke? You think he was the only one doing it? Plus it's only holding if you get caught! Dexter was the biggest addict ever and he's loved by everyone.

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[quote=skinsfan69;893087]Why so much hate for Starke? You think he was the only one doing it? Plus it's only holding if you get caught! Dexter was the biggest addict ever and he's loved by everyone.[/quote]

He acted like he was a great player when he really sucked, I don't know if you remember always hearing hold on #74 just about every other play? He used to drive me nuts, he did get better but he is still an ass.

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[quote=skinsfan69;893087]Why so much hate for Starke? You think he was the only one doing it? Plus it's only holding if you get caught! Dexter was the biggest addict ever and he's loved by everyone.[/quote]

Starke should just be quiet. Trying to make Gibbs out to be a liar by trying to get him mixed up with Gregg William's violations of league rules is absurd. There's a difference between awarding players for intentionally hurting another player on the opposing team and rewarding players for a job well done. As Gibbs said, the rules were different during that era. Starke needs to keep his mouth shut and have a coke a smile.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;893055]One of the issues, and in the end the one that makes it a big problem, is that the Saints and GW were told they were being looked into, and told to stop specific practices. They agreed and said they would, but then kept doing it. I am sure there were ways they could have altered it, and been in compliance with what the league was looking for, but they chose not.

That's a problem, and they are probably gonna get hammered.[/quote]

That's it. The Saints aren't really in trouble because of bounties. They are in trouble because they continued the practice after being warned.

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[quote=skinsfan69;893084]I wonder what Dexter got when he knocked out Danny White.[/quote]a pony