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SmootSmack 01-15-2013 09:28 AM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
Look for the Redskins to possibly add a...stud...on the interior

donofriose 01-15-2013 09:28 AM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;988717]If they do make "one big splash", I hope it is for Byrd.[/quote]

I doubt that he does not at least get franchised. They resign everyone in Buffalo, and the fans, players and GM seem to love Byrd.

donofriose 01-15-2013 09:36 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;988720]Look for the Redskins to possibly add a...stud...on the interior[/quote]

Randy Starks??? Has played in a 3-4 before. Only free agent d-linemen in my opinion worth looking at.

CultBrennan59 01-15-2013 10:09 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;988720]Look for the Redskins to possibly add a...stud...on the interior[/quote]

I'm assuming you're talking about the DL and not the interior of the OL.

If it ain't Starks, it must be Seymour or Henry Melton. (Darkhorses would be the 2 Seattle guys, Branch and Jason Jones)

If you're talking trade, maybe Darnell Dockett?


Heres some of SI's Free Agents with some quick bios.

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/photos/1301/nfl-2013-unrestricted-free-agents/?sct=uk_bf3_a5]Joe Flacco - QB - 2013 NFL Unrestricted Free Agents - Photos - SI.com[/url]

KI Skins Fan 01-15-2013 10:13 AM

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When Vinny was running the show around here, I could pretty much guess who he would go after in FA and the first couple rounds of the draft. Now, with Shanny in charge, I usually don't have a clue.

There is a moral in this. If Vinny was using conventional fan "wisdom" to make his picks, it's no wonder he failed on so many of them. Most of us fans don't know jack. I know I don't.

So I take a certain amount of comfort in anticipating that Shanny and his staff will do professional evaluations and add players in FA and the draft that I never even thought of or knew anything about, such as Alfred Morris.

But that won't stop me from speculating.

MTK 01-15-2013 10:39 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;988720]Look for the Redskins to possibly add a...stud...on the interior[/quote]

oh you're cruel, just sitting back and watching the frenzy that ensues lol

JoeRedskin 01-15-2013 10:48 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;988743]oh you're cruel, just sitting back and watching the frenzy that ensues lol[/quote]

I picture him behind a desk, fingers steepled ... "EX-cellent!"

cue Mr. Burns video.

SmootSmack 01-15-2013 10:48 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;988743]oh you're cruel, just sitting back and watching the frenzy that ensues lol[/quote]

I know, but I might have to retract it. Some new news on him, which may make him tougher to bring here

mbedner3420 01-15-2013 12:11 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;988753]I know, but I might have to retract it. Some new news on him, which may make him tougher to bring here[/quote]

Would this also suggest that we may be getting some of our cap space back in order to pursue a top tier stud?

los panda 01-15-2013 12:13 PM

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i just want to franchise sean gilbert one more time

SmootSmack 01-15-2013 12:15 PM

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[quote=mbedner3420;988794]Would this also suggest that we may be getting some of our cap space back in order to pursue a top tier stud?[/quote]

I don't expect us to get money back

mbedner3420 01-15-2013 12:17 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;988799]I don't expect us to get money back[/quote]

Chris Russell, you son of a bitch!

ethat001 01-21-2013 06:27 PM

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[QUOTE]
[url=http://news.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/2013/01/21/redskins-look-north-work-out-cfl-starting-lineman-brian-simmons/]Redskins Look North, Work Out CFL Starting Lineman Brian Simmons - Redskins Journal[/url]

Redskins Look North, Work Out CFL Starting Lineman Brian Simmons
By ZAC BOYER | [email]zboyer@freelancestar.com[/email]

Brian Simmons, a 6-foot-5, 304-pound offensive lineman who started all 18 games at left tackle for the CFL’s Hamilton Tiger-Cats last season, worked out for the Washington Redskins last week, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Simmons, 27, played four seasons in college at Oklahoma, where he was a teammate of left tackle Trent Williams and occasionally started next to him at left guard. He was in New England’s training camp in 2010 after going undrafted, then signed with Hamilton for the 2011 season.

...

By Zac Boyer on January 21st, 2013 4:58 pm[/QUOTE]


If you don't have much money to spend in FA, don't have your top draft picks -- I think this makes perfect sense. Shanny always likes low round draft picks for O-line, to work with his ZBS. Would be nice if it works, clearly other teams dumped him.

diehardskin2982 01-22-2013 12:41 AM

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My guess on SS Armond Armstead- Has to pass a physical

Watching the NFC Championship game, I couldn't help thinking "what if we had the balls to do it"? What if we snagged a top receiver like Mike Wallace? The Falcons had a big three Gonzalez, White, and Jones. What if we did the same Resigning Fred D, Garcon, and Wallace. You have a possession guy in Garcon, Speed guy in Wallace and dynamic tight end option in Fred. Match that up with this running game and a dynamic player like RG3 it would be a nightmare to stop. Also if we have a stronger receiving core the better chance that Robert could become a better passer.

Monkeydad 01-22-2013 08:43 AM

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[quote=diehardskin2982;990321]My guess on SS Armond Armstead- Has to pass a physical

Watching the NFC Championship game, I couldn't help thinking "what if we had the balls to do it"? What if we snagged a top receiver like Mike Wallace? The Falcons had a big three Gonzalez, White, and Jones. What if we did the same Resigning Fred D, Garcon, and Wallace. You have a possession guy in Garcon, Speed guy in Wallace and dynamic tight end option in Fred. Match that up with this running game and a dynamic player like RG3 it would be a nightmare to stop. Also if we have a stronger receiving core the better chance that Robert could become a better passer.[/quote]

Lets do it. :D

However, we need to save some money for a secondary too, or we'll be in the same situation as 2012 with the offense battling its own defense for the most points.

JoeRedskin 01-22-2013 10:58 AM

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Really? Pay an overpriced WR when we have young talent on the roster?
Why not develop what we have and see what comes of it? Robinson and Hankerson are plenty speedy enough (particularly Robinson) to stretch a defense and go for the deep ball.

Defense my friends. Defense. Our offense is averaging 24+ points a game.

CRedskinsRule 01-22-2013 11:54 AM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;990387]Really? Pay an overpriced WR when we have young talent on the roster?
Why not develop what we have and see what comes of it? Robinson and Hankerson are plenty speedy enough (particularly Robinson) to stretch a defense and go for the deep ball.

Defense my friends. Defense. Our offense is averaging 24+ points a game.[/quote]

Some people are so silly, a team can't win with a measly 24+ points average. We clearly need to upgrade the offensive skill position set in both FA and the draft. JR, just think a minute, and let the truth of this wash over you. Then you will see that all we need is a better WR, TE and RT. Then we will be all powerful, and opponents offenses will cower as we put up the might 27+ points average. That is the key, always. No opponent can beat you when you score 27 or more points. (it's true, I saw it on the internet).

NYCskinfan82 01-22-2013 03:42 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;990397]Some people are so silly, a team can't win with a measly 24+ points average. We clearly need to upgrade the offensive skill position set in both FA and the draft. JR, just think a minute, and let the truth of this wash over you. Then you will see that all we need is a better WR, TE and RT. Then we will be all powerful, and opponents offenses will cower as we put up the might 27+ points average. That is the key, always. No opponent can beat you when you score 27 or more points. (it's true, I saw it on the internet).[/quote]

Someone download the State Farm commercial.

Evilgrin 01-22-2013 04:22 PM

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Yup, better defense means more chances for offense, be nice to get off the field more on third downs also.

SFREDSKIN 01-22-2013 07:32 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;990321]My guess on SS Armond Armstead- Has to pass a physical

Watching the NFC Championship game, I couldn't help thinking "what if we had the balls to do it"? What if we snagged a top receiver like Mike Wallace? The Falcons had a big three Gonzalez, White, and Jones. What if we did the same Resigning Fred D, Garcon, and Wallace. You have a possession guy in Garcon, Speed guy in Wallace and dynamic tight end option in Fred. Match that up with this running game and a dynamic player like RG3 it would be a nightmare to stop. Also if we have a stronger receiving core the better chance that Robert could become a better passer.[/quote]

Too late armstead is a NE Patriot now.

diehardskin2982 01-22-2013 07:34 PM

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We can develop our talent here. Many of you sound like its your purse the Redskins shop with. We have one the most talented cap guys in the industry. We have never had problems getting any player we wanted until this past year and that was only because the league surprised us with a fine on the eve of free agency.

That being said getting a player at one position will not cripple us in other areas. If we address areas of need with players in free agency it gives us the opportunity to address other areas in the draft.

Evilgrin 01-23-2013 12:25 PM

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[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/1/23/3905076/2013-free-agency-potential-washington-redskins-targets]2013 Free Agency: Potential Washington Redskins Targets - Hogs Haven[/url]

Good read, some names already mentioned here, definately more realistic list

Anyone heard anything else?

Monkeydad 01-23-2013 12:56 PM

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[quote=Evilgrin;990526][URL="http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/1/23/3905076/2013-free-agency-potential-washington-redskins-targets"]2013 Free Agency: Potential Washington Redskins Targets - Hogs Haven[/URL]

Good read, some names already mentioned here, definately more realistic list

Anyone heard anything else?[/quote]

Branden Albert is the one from that list I'd want. Our O-line would be hugely upgraded by this one man's addition.

Some nice CBs on the list too, although I'm not sold on Captain Munenrlyn.

CultBrennan59 01-23-2013 01:04 PM

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[quote=Monkeydad;990537]Branden Albert is the one from that list I'd want. Our O-line would be hugely upgraded by this one man's addition.

Some nice CBs on the list too, although I'm not sold on Captain Munenrlyn.[/quote]

Yeah I agree. I remember SS mentioning McKelvin, and I'm not sold on him after getting benched in buffalo. Sean Smith is a great, tall, physical CB, much like the 2 seattle guys. Albert is the guy to get IMO.

RGIII10/ALMO46 01-27-2013 09:49 AM

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[quote=RGIII;944432]Skins won't have much dough to throw around next year either. Focus probably needs to be on fixing the defense and continiuing to draft starting-caliber prospects in round 2 and later. I think a shift to the 4-3 would be a boost to the current front seven. Years ago, there seemed to be a slew of DE/LB tweeners coming out of college that fit the 3-4 scheme. Skins decided to switch to the 3-4 when that trend was fading, forcing perhaps prototypical 4-3 DEs Kerrigan and Orakpo (4-3 DE Jenkins, 4-3 DT Cofield) into a 3-4 scheme. But there has been a lot ot talk about that in other threads already.

Trent Williams and his contract deserves a look over. What will be his status for next off-season? Skins need to somehow aquire two quality OTs and a safety this ofseason. I think a significant reason the secondary sucks so bad right now is the lack of pass rush generated with this 3-4 front played by guys who aren't thriving in it in addition to DBs who are in over their head with the coverages that the coaches are drawing up. Will this be another off-season of more questions than answers?[/quote]
No chance they switch right now, even if it would be the better route to take. We need secondary first. ARC will be a redskin. Do not worry about the cap issue. The redskins will win most of that 18 million back.

mbedner3420 01-27-2013 10:32 AM

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[quote=RGIII10/ALMO46;991189]No chance they switch right now, even if it would be the better route to take. We need secondary first. ARC will be a redskin. Do not worry about the cap issue. The redskins will win most of that 18 million back.[/quote]

Do you have inside knowledge of either their ARC interest or the money? Or are you just speculating?

Mechanix544 01-27-2013 10:42 AM

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He is speculating. He was also speculating that snyder is going to sign revis over there in the other thread.

CultBrennan59 01-27-2013 11:29 AM

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Who is ARC? You mean DRC as in Dominique Rodgers Cromartie? Or A Right Corner?

los panda 01-27-2013 11:46 AM

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aeneas williams is available

mbedner3420 01-27-2013 04:11 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;991201]Who is ARC? You mean DRC as in Dominique Rodgers Cromartie? Or A Right Corner?[/quote]

Oh man I didn't even catch that... I just assumed he meant Dominique Rodgers Cromartie. Or perhaps Antonio Cromartie (and he just added the initial)?

mbedner3420 01-27-2013 04:12 PM

Re: 2013 Free Agents
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;990539]Yeah I agree. I remember SS mentioning McKelvin, and I'm not sold on him after getting benched in buffalo. Sean Smith is a great, tall, physical CB, much like the 2 seattle guys. Albert is the guy to get IMO.[/quote]

I really want Sean smith but he might be too expensive.

CultBrennan59 01-27-2013 05:18 PM

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[quote=mbedner3420;991217]I really want Sean smith but he might be too expensive.[/quote]

Well, March 12 is when we'll find out which Free Agents go where.

Richard Seymour anyone?

Alvin Walton 01-27-2013 06:03 PM

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Oh joy, more incognito drama.

SmootSmack 01-27-2013 06:32 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;991221]Oh joy, more incognito drama.[/quote]

What icognito drama?

punch it in 01-27-2013 07:12 PM

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;991222]What icognito drama?[/QUOTE]

If he tells you it wont be incognito.

REDSKINS4ever 01-27-2013 07:47 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;991219]Well, March 12 is when we'll find out which Free Agents go where.

Richard Seymour anyone?[/quote]

Richard Seymour? I doubt if the Redskins need him. We have Cofield, Bowen, Carriker, Neild, C. Baker, and Jarvis Jenkins.

punch it in 01-27-2013 08:26 PM

[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;991228]Richard Seymour? I doubt if the Redskins need him. We have Cofield, Bowen, Carriker, Neild, C. Baker, and Jarvis Jenkins.[/QUOTE]

Agreed lets concentrate on areas of need. Secondary oline and mlb. Dont really want to see any moves or picks outside of there.

mbedner3420 01-27-2013 08:51 PM

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[quote=punch it in;991234]Agreed lets concentrate on areas of need. Secondary oline and mlb. Dont really want to see any moves or picks outside of there.[/quote]

Agreed. Has anyone heard any new scuttlebutt regarding free agency moves? I doubt there is much news given the coaching staff is on vacation, but I'm starved for information.

BigHairedAristocrat 01-28-2013 12:29 PM

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[quote=mbedner3420;991236]Agreed. Has anyone heard any new scuttlebutt regarding free agency moves? I doubt there is much news given the coaching staff is on vacation, but I'm starved for information.[/quote]

We may not be able to get much of anything.

[URL="http://http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2013/01/redskins-have-few-restructure-candidates.html"]http://http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2013/01/redskins-have-few-restructure-candidates.html[/URL]

[quote][B][U]Redskins have few restructure candidates[/U][/B]

Thanks to the $18 million salary cap penalty they will be hit with this year, [U]the Redskins are about $4 million over their 2013 salary cap number.[/U] That sounds like a lot to be over but normally it is something that can easily be handled by restructuring a few contracts. But that will not be easy for the Redskins to do.

The ideal contract for a restructure is one for a player with a high base salary, in the $10 million range or higher, and at least three years remaining. The team and the player get together and work it out so the player gets most of his salary for that year up front in the form of a signing bonus. That allows the team to spread the cap hit for that salary over the remaining years of the contract.

The problem is, the Redskins don’t have many high salaries this year. Their highest 2013 salary is $7.5 million and it belongs to DeAngelo Hall.
[/quote]

As already noted, we also have alot of our own guys we need to re-sign. I dont forsee us making a single "splashy" move.

mbedner3420 01-28-2013 12:38 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;991326]We may not be able to get much of anything.

[URL="http://http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2013/01/redskins-have-few-restructure-candidates.html"]http://http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2013/01/redskins-have-few-restructure-candidates.html[/URL]



As already noted, we also have alot of our own guys we need to re-sign. I dont forsee us making a single "splashy" move.[/quote]

I saw that. Rather disappointing news, really. Looks like we'll be making a lot of cuts...


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