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[quote=GTripp0012;1028254]The snap that hit Logan Paulsen is a better example of the kind of crap that Griffin is dealing with than the fact that he had to save the play.

Also: terrible game management at the end of the game, a Shanahan staple. Could have kicked a FG to cut the lead to seven with 2:20 to play, with plenty of time to get the ball back. Instead, ran about six more plays, got down to the five yard line with 1:40 to go, and THEN kicked anyway when the Redskins absolutely needed a TD. Just so stupid. Only thing missing from that sequence was a wasted timeout because we couldn't get a play in in-time.

Pickin our battles.[/quote]

This.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1028333]Like who? D. Hall? He's playing for like a million dollars this year. Pretty good rate for a starting corner[B]...and say what you want about D. Hall, but he's our best corner[/B], he played a good game yesterday. Now Josh Wilson is another story...and btw...he was a free agent! How would you grade that signing? Did it pan out? I'd say probably not.[/quote]

Is that a complement?LOL

I've always like D Hall. He has his moments but I feel he comes to every game giving 100%. That's all you can ask from anyone.

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[quote=12thMan;1028340]Funny how people hate to give D.Hall props around here.[/quote]

Not me I dig the guy, hes done waaaaay more positive than bad.

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[quote=The Goat;1028350]This.[/quote]

Also: terrible game management at the end of the game, a Shanahan staple. Could have kicked a FG to cut the lead to seven with 2:20 to play, with plenty of time to get the ball back. Instead, ran about six more plays, got down to the five yard line with 1:40 to go, and THEN kicked anyway when the Redskins absolutely needed a TD. Just so stupid. Only thing missing from that sequence was a wasted timeout because we couldn't get a play in in-time.


But if we made a TD in those six plays we would have then only needed a FG to tie the game. Also you have to remember our kicker is also hurt.

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[quote=firstdown;1028355]Also: terrible game management at the end of the game, a Shanahan staple. Could have kicked a FG to cut the lead to seven with 2:20 to play, with plenty of time to get the ball back. Instead, ran about six more plays, got down to the five yard line with 1:40 to go, and THEN kicked anyway when the Redskins absolutely needed a TD. Just so stupid. Only thing missing from that sequence was a wasted timeout because we couldn't get a play in in-time.


But if we made a TD in those six plays we would have then only needed a FG to tie the game. Also you have to remember our kicker is also hurt.[/quote]

maybe thats y we didn't kick it before the 2min warning

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I'm disgusted.

It's over and that's my vote. Even with a crap division, we're going to be 0-4 playing an NFC leader Dallas squad coming off our bye. We've been getting worked inside and out by every team this year and even if we get it together later on, having 3-4 losses already is going to be tough to get past.

Again, season over. Sucks we have no 1st rounder next year, you're welcome STL. Ugh.

This is going be a long, vomitous year.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1028349]problem is WILSON, and the safeties[/quote]



The problem is the defensive scheme.

[url]http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/redskins-do-or-die-single-high[/url]


Haslett isn't putting his players in a position to succeed. Read the article I posted and listen to what the Lions players had to say.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1028359]The problem is the defensive scheme.

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Haslett isn't putting his players in a position to succeed. Read the article I posted and listen to what the Lions players had to say.[/quote]

This literally makes me sick to the point of apathy about this team.

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The defense played better yesterday than the offense did. They scored 7 points, and had some crucial stops during the game. Again, the offense scored 13 on a pretty average to below average defense at home...and turned the ball over in scoring position. Both sides have plenty of blame but yesterday the offense gets more.

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/09/23/fred-smoot-calls-rgiii-a-brat-and-shanahan-red-lobster/]Fred Smoot calls RGIII a ‘brat’ and Shanahan ‘Red Lobster’[/url]

Fred Smoot on radio today bringing the smackdown.


[quote]“If you’re going to make a coaching change for the future, it’s time to make it now,” he said. “Robert Griffin III has been a Redskin now for one and a half years. If you’re gonna change his coach and you want a coach to grow with him like the Bradys and Belichicks and all the great pairs of quarterbacks and coaches, you have to do it now. And right now, I think the Red Lobster’s working his way outta here. I think Shanahan is working his way out of here.”[/quote]

Red Lobster... :laughing-

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double post.

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I think "Rat Teeth" is better than "Red Lobster."

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Well....there never has a shortage of.....has been's....wannebe's....and armchair idiots with a burning desire to take stupidity to unprecedented levels...Fred

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[quote=NC_Skins;1028363][url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/09/23/fred-smoot-calls-rgiii-a-brat-and-shanahan-red-lobster/]Fred Smoot calls RGIII a ‘brat’ and Shanahan ‘Red Lobster’[/url]

Fred Smoot on radio today bringing the smackdown.




Red Lobster... :laughing-[/quote]

Smoot also says Shanahan should be fired and they should bring in Chucky or Cowher.

[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/09/23/smoot-i-want-a-new-redskins-coach-a-la-jon-gruden-bill-cowher/]Fred Smoot Wants Mike Shanahan Out, Bill Cowher or Jon Gruden In « CBS DC[/url]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1028367]Smoot also says Shanahan should be fired and they should bring in Chucky or Cowher.

[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/09/23/smoot-i-want-a-new-redskins-coach-a-la-jon-gruden-bill-cowher/]Fred Smoot Wants Mike Shanahan Out, Bill Cowher or Jon Gruden In « CBS DC[/url][/quote]

Yeah, I'm not agreeing with Smoot by any means. Just found his "red lobster" comment hilarious. Truth is, Smoot isn't a very bright guy when it comes to stuff like this. Bringing in a Gruden or Cowher would be a drastic mistake. Sure, lets bring in a guy who hasn't coached football in 7+ years. That'll be swell!!

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we just need to fire Hasslet and hire Lovie Smith

Bill cowher isn't coming back folks. And gruden probably won't either

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1028369]we just need to fire Hasslet and hire Lovie Smith[/quote]

Would love, love, love that!!! Lovie is a 4-3 disciple though and I believe Mike is committed to the 3-4. So...how about we just go with Lovie for HC!?!?!

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[quote=NC_Skins;1028368]Yeah, I'm not agreeing with Smoot by any means. Just found his "red lobster" comment hilarious. Truth is, Smoot isn't a very bright guy when it comes to stuff like this. Bringing in a Gruden or Cowher would be a drastic mistake. Sure, lets bring in a guy who hasn't coached football in 7+ years. That'll be swell!![/quote]

^^^^This. I love how the mentality says go out and get these ex-great coaches, but that's the truth, they have been out of the game too long to come back and be effective.

All due respect to coach Gibbs, but I know there were some on here who wondered if the game had passed him by when he was brought out of retirement the first time.

Shanahan is probably working his way out of here. I think his chair is hot if they keep losing, and it should be. But we need to start fresh and not go get some re-tread, once upon a time coach...

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1028372]^^^^This. I love how the mentality says go out and get these ex-great coaches, but that's the truth, they have been out of the game too long to come back and be effective.

All due respect to coach Gibbs, but I know there were some on here who wondered if the game had passed him by when he was brought out of retirement the first time.

[B]Shanahan is probably working his way out of here. I think his chair is hot if they keep losing, and it should be.[/B] But we need to start fresh and not go get some re-tread, once upon a time coach...[/quote]

I think just about all the main coaches (HC, OC, DC) would be kicked out. But then that means learning a whole new system next year. Blah.

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Its getting more difficult for me to be patient with A. Robinson. Heard all kinds of good things about him at camp, but I'm seeing a lot of the same.

Yes, he's improved, but he doesn't strike me as a "natural" catcher. I'm really hoping we pull off another draft miracle and pick up a baller WR & Safety. Total shame we're still needing the same DB position, and I do believe Rambo can develop, but I'm not sure how long he will take. Hate to come out and say this, but I'm beginning to wonder if he "has it". Hope I'm wrong.

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Nothing I have seen these first three weeks would have me come to this conclusion logically. However, after taking a step back from the emotions from the third bad loss in a row, something tells me this team is going to crush the Raiders this week.

1-3 going into the bye isn't the end of the world, but a lot more has to get cleaned up in all three phases - and consistently - for me to become optimistic about this team again.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1028369]we just need to fire Hasslet and hire Lovie Smith[/quote]

Yeah I think this would be good

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1028369]we just need to fire Hasslet and hire Lovie Smith[/quote]

While I am not a Haslett sympathizer I doubt we would see an improvement in play by this D with a change.

[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1028378]While I am not a Haslett sympathizer I doubt we would see an improvement in play by this D with a change.[/QUOTE]

Certainly cant get worse though...literally and historically cannot get worse.
As for cowher or gruden - if there is a change made next year - i personally dont think either of them is to far removed from coaching to do it again. I think that is crazy talk. Gibbs was removed and absorbed in nascar - who knows if he even watched the games on Sunday? Probably not since it is race day. Cowher and Gruden - different story Gruden was coaching five short years ago.
That being said i agree with Okie - they arent coming back, but to say they are too removed to do so is silly imo.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1027895]Can we:

1. Fire Haslett.

2. [B]Install a 4-3 and use the rest of this year to get used to playing it.[/B]

3. Remove Thompson from returning kicks (and instruct all of our returners NOT to leave the endzone if you catch it 6 yards deep or deeper).

4. Run the ball.

5. Bootleg more (those passes generally looked good).

6. Use more Reed, less Paulson.

7. Let Fred Davis go next year, and use the cap money we will have to shore up all of the DB positions and the OL.[/quote]

That sounds like a terrible idea. You can't change defensive schemes overnight, even an entire offseason sometimes isn't enough time to get players used to the change (as evidenced by our first year running the 3-4). I think we'd pretty much be guaranteeing an abysmal defense for the entire year if we did that.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1028368]Yeah, I'm not agreeing with Smoot by any means. Just found his "red lobster" comment hilarious. Truth is, Smoot isn't a very bright guy when it comes to stuff like this. Bringing in a Gruden or Cowher would be a drastic mistake. Sure, lets bring in a guy who hasn't coached football in 7+ years. That'll be swell!![/quote]

Well, the thing with guys particularly like Gruden who decide to become color analysts is that they do it in part to be able to stay involved with all the inner workings of every team just in case the opportunity comes again. Gruden gets to be "in the trenches" so to speak with two teams every week, getting access to their talent, coaches, philosophies that he couldn't otherwise. That said, no I don't want him here either

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[quote=NC_Skins;1028201]‏[B]@HTTR24_7

Have now heard another name besides Rah in the possible DC race twice now..Just rumors right now tho.[/B]



...and so it begins.[/quote]

Tell your boy to stop by. Smart dude with plenty of intelligent insight beyond just inside info

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I say cut Hankerson and Robinson. They always drop the ball on third down and drop touchdowns. Its crazy, it's a 50/50 chance they catch the ball. Put Tana in the game more.

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[quote=mooby;1028383]That sounds like a terrible idea. You can't change defensive schemes overnight, even an entire offseason sometimes isn't enough time to get players used to the change (as evidenced by our first year running the 3-4). I think we'd pretty much be guaranteeing an abysmal defense for the entire year if we did that.[/quote]

Other ways to guarantee an abysmal defense....keep playing the same.

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[quote=SonnyJerg;1028374]Its getting more difficult for me to be patient with A. Robinson. Heard all kinds of good things about him at camp, but I'm seeing a lot of the same.

Yes, he's improved, but he doesn't strike me as a "natural" catcher. I'm really hoping we pull off another draft miracle and pick up a baller WR & Safety. Total shame we're still needing the same DB position, and I do believe Rambo can develop, but I'm not sure how long he will take. Hate to come out and say this, but I'm beginning to wonder if he "has it". Hope I'm wrong.[/quote]
,
I agree with you Rambo appears to be avoiding contact. I don't know how much you can devlope that. As a safety you should not shy away from contact. Its a part of your talent skill set. If you don'thahve that skill then safety is not the position for you.

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Regarding this comming sundays game,

As I sit here watching the Broncos vs Raiders I'm seeing a few things, Yeah Pryor runs this option but Mcfadden isn't a option running back and as bad as our defense is I think (ain't saying much) we are better than Jacksonville. Our boys won't just lay down Sunday and quite frankly I understand this is Peyton Manning they are playing against but the Raiders have a case of the I can't cover as well. RGIII > Pryor in the pocket and yes I went there Our defense needs this game to build its confidence. Nevermind the offense though expect the scoreline to be high both defenses are terrible

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One thing I hate about the 3-4 is seeing Rak and Kerrigan in coverage.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1028392]One thing I hate about the 3-4 is seeing Rak and Kerrigan in coverage.[/quote]

Agreed Kerrigan not so much but I feel like rak is a better Defensive tackle

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Jeez is Jim Haslett watching this game!?!?..............THIS IS HOW YOU TACKLE

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[quote=SmootSmack;1028384]Well, the thing with guys particularly like Gruden who decide to become color analysts is that they do it in part to be able to stay involved with all the inner workings of every team just in case the opportunity comes again. Gruden gets to be "in the trenches" so to speak with two teams every week, getting access to their talent, coaches, philosophies that he couldn't otherwise. That said, no I don't want him here either[/quote]

Curious...

Who would you like to see as our next HC?

Do you think Danny still wants big name or flashy types for HC? Would Danny ever hire Lovie or a guy like him?

Y would haslett watch how to tackle?

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[quote=firstdown;1028331]Doesn't agree because it was his mistake.[/quote]

I was wondering if he decided to dive rather than slide because he is wearing the brace. I saw a couple slides this year where it appeared that the brace could have caught in the turf.

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[quote=The Goat;1028410]Curious...

Who would you like to see as our next HC?

Do you think Danny still wants big name or flashy types for HC? Would Danny ever hire Lovie or a guy like him?[/quote]

I don't know who. Haven't given it that much thought. One guy I think deserves another chance is Perry Fewell