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[quote=Monkeydad;1060125]Davis' DUI was at 3:45 in the afternoon, on a Thursday. Yeah, he has problems.[/quote]

I dont know how to post pictures, but a co worker sent me a picture from the arrest in fairfax with Fred up against the car and the mugshot. Dude is like in the middle of a busy intersection in middle of the day with police and fire responding getting frisked up against his car. Pretty embarrassing imo

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1060115]Jeez thats sad, thanks for the insight. I guess the Skins arent there to bail him out anymore, literrally.[/QUOTE]







[QUOTE=Monkeydad;1060125]Davis' DUI was at 3:45 in the afternoon, on a Thursday. Yeah, he has problems.[/QUOTE]

I hope Fred Davis finds a way to over come his addictions, but obviously the Redskins don't need him.

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I definitely feel bad for the guy. He obviously needs some help.

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1060126]I dont know how to post pictures, but a co worker sent me a picture from the arrest in fairfax with Fred up against the car and the mugshot. Dude is like in the middle of a busy intersection in middle of the day with police and fire responding getting frisked up against his car. Pretty embarrassing imo[/QUOTE]

I was actually in the area at the time, and I was wondering what all of the police activities were all about.

BTW....here is the mug shot...

[IMG] [url]http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Fred-Davis-DUI-Mugshot-e1393004337261.jpg[/url] [/IMG]

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[quote=NC_Skins;1060034][B][SIZE=5]@MikeJonesWaPo[/SIZE][/B]

[B][SIZE=5]Can confirm Fred Davis was pulled over today and charged with DUI today in Fairfax Country.[/SIZE][/B]


[URL="http://www.csnwashington.com/article/troubled-te-fred-davis-busted-dui-thurs-fred-davis-was"]Troubled TE Fred Davis busted for DUI Thurs. - Fred Davis | WAS | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/URL]


Fred Davis. The gift that keeps on giving. :doh:[/quote]
You DO NOT drink and drive in Fairfax county and get away with it. Dumb.

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[quote=Mattyk;1060128]I definitely feel bad for the guy. He obviously needs some help.[/quote]

I don't. He chose this path and brought it all upon himself.

No one wants to take responsibility any more...it's always a "disease" or an "addiction", never a CHOICE.

Look how many times he's screwed up. You'd think the first suspension would wake someone up that they can lose everything if they continue to make stupid choices.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1060134]I don't. He chose this path and brought it all upon himself.

No one wants to take responsibility any more...it's always a "disease" or an "addiction", never a CHOICE.

Look how many times he's screwed up. You'd think the first suspension would wake someone up that they can lose everything if they continue to make stupid choices.[/quote]

I don't feel bad for you and you had a choice to be a asshole or not.

I wish you just leave this board; few want you here anymore.

You are so out of touch with reality? Do you even own a home computer? Or do you just post on your work computer?

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[quote=Monkeydad;1060134]I don't. He chose this path and brought it all upon himself.

No one wants to take responsibility any more...it's always a "disease" or an "addiction", never a CHOICE.

Look how many times he's screwed up. You'd think the first suspension would wake someone up that they can lose everything if they continue to make stupid choices.[/quote]

Everyone has their demons.

What are yours?

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[quote=Mattyk;1060137]Everyone has their demons.

What are yours?[/quote]Nope, doesn't matter. 'Demons' are just an excuse for the seven deadly sins; and people should be strong enough to bottle that shit up, shovel deep into a pit in their stomach, lock it in a closet if you will, and go about their lives as the founding fathers intended. It's really not that hard.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1060134]I don't. He chose this path and brought it all upon himself.

No one wants to take responsibility any more...it's always a "disease" or an "addiction", never a CHOICE.

Look how many times he's screwed up. You'd think the first suspension would wake someone up that they can lose everything if they continue to make stupid choices.[/quote]

Your compassion for those who exhibit human fallibility is inspiring.

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Freds demon is apparently supidity.

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[quote=Lotus;1060147]Your compassion for those who exhibit human fallibility is inspiring.[/quote]

This is more than mere human fallibility. Making stupid mistake after stupid mistake is either a maturity issue, or he needs some outside help. I think he needs to man up and move past whatever's causing these mistakes.

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I can't feel too sorry for Davis. He's immature acts like a 17 year old. He was blessed w/ physical gifts and wasted it cause he can't keep himself clean. He obviously needs some help. Hopefully he gets it and grows up and starts acting like a grown man.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1060134]I don't. He chose this path and brought it all upon himself.

No one wants to take responsibility any more...it's always a "disease" or an "addiction", never a CHOICE.

Look how many times he's screwed up. You'd think the first suspension would wake someone up that they can lose everything if they continue to make stupid choices.[/quote]

It started at a choice, but developed into a habit. then maybe as an escape. Like smoking, gambling, alcohol, etc. No question he's made bad choices. Its amazing when your young the bad choices you can make. Maturity is learning from mistakes, Fred hasnt, but it sounds like he certainly has some substance abuse issues. He's young, and people love a comeback story.

But to be so harsh is kinda dumb. Hopefully, Fred has hit bottom.

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[quote=Chico23231;1060160]It started at a choice, but developed into a habit. then maybe as an escape. Like smoking, gambling, alcohol, etc. No question he's made bad choices. Its amazing when your young the bad choices you can make. Maturity is learning from mistakes, Fred hasnt, but it sounds like he certainly has some substance abuse issues. He's young, and people love a comeback story.

But to be so harsh is kinda dumb. Hopefully, Fred has hit bottom.[/quote] Post of the month!

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[quote=skinsfan69;1060159]I can't feel too sorry for Davis. He's immature acts like a 17 year old. He was blessed w/ physical gifts and wasted it cause he can't keep himself clean. He obviously needs some help. Hopefully he gets it and grows up and starts acting like a grown man.[/quote]

Agree with you . I do hope he gets help . He could do some good in the community if he gets help , grows up . I hate to see people waste talent .

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[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/02/21/fred-davis-arrested-for-dwi-near-tysons-corner/]Fred Davis Arrested for DWI in Tysons Corner | Washington Redskins « CBS DC[/url]

Pics of the arrest and car impounded. GG

Seems like he pulled a Bruce Smith. Passed out at the light.

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Mugshot time!

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000327933/article/buffalo-bills-plan-to-franchise-tag-jairus-byrd-if-needed]Buffalo Bills plan to franchise tag Jairus Byrd if needed - NFL.com[/url]

[QUOTE=SirLK26;1060241][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000327933/article/buffalo-bills-plan-to-franchise-tag-jairus-byrd-if-needed]Buffalo Bills plan to franchise tag Jairus Byrd if needed - NFL.com[/url][/QUOTE]

They should limit the use of the franchise tag on a player. Sucks for the players.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1060245]They should limit the use of the franchise tag on a player. Sucks for the players.

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Owners create any policy to screw the players, franchise tag, salary cap, they are all there just to make sure owners keep the revenue.

[QUOTE=donofriose;1060253]Owners create any policy to screw the players, franchise tag, salary cap, they are all there just to make sure owners keep the revenue.[/QUOTE]

Pretty sure the players union signed off on every CBA where a franchise tag was available.

Ruhskins. I think a player can only be franchised 2 times but not positive about that. What type of limit are you thinking of in your post?

edit changed CBS to CBA

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1060256]Pretty sure the players union signed off on every CBS where a franchise tag was available.

Ruhskins. I think a player can only be franchised 2 times but not positive about that. What type of limit are you thinking of in your post?[/quote]

Just because they signed it, doesn't mean players wanted it or didn't get screwed. The NFL, more than any other league, bullies its players and its union into taking less money because they know lesser players will need a deal. Just like the concussion settlement. The NFL even found a way to make contracts not guaranteed. It is just smart business in the end on the NFL owner's part. It is why Roger gets paid so much.

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[quote=donofriose;1060264][B]Just because they signed it, doesn't mean players wanted it [/B]or didn't get screwed. The NFL, more than any other league, bullies its players and its union into taking less money because they know lesser players will need a deal. Just like the concussion settlement. The NFL even found a way to make contracts not guaranteed. It is just smart business in the end on the NFL owner's part. It is why Roger gets paid so much.[/quote]

Well yes, signing it does basically mean that they wanted to take the deal that their leadership presented to them, which includes the franchise tag designation. And they have kept it through several CBAs now. Truthfully, most players probably don't care about the franchise tag, given that out of about 2000 players a year, it at most affects 32.

I do think the players got screwed this last go around, but I mostly blame an NFLPA leadership that was intent on breaking the system all together through bad faith and court room tactics, rather than working together, so when they couldn't break it they had to concede.

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[quote=donofriose;1060264]Just because they signed it, doesn't mean players wanted it or didn't get screwed. The NFL, more than any other league, bullies its players and its union into taking less money because they know lesser players will need a deal. Just like the concussion settlement. The NFL even found a way to make contracts not guaranteed. It is just smart business in the end on the NFL owner's part. It is why Roger gets paid so much.[/quote]
Wow...that's exactly what it means.

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I have grown to hate the current system. The salary cap has diluted the play of the top teams in the nfl. There are less super teams. Plus we now have more weak teams.
Before salary cap we had Sf, NYG, Wash, Bears, Dallas, Pittsburgh, Dolphins, etc. we're all strong teams all at the same time. And these teams were deep, with plenty of talent on the bench.
Today we have two super teams, a handful of good teams and the rest struggle to field a complete lineup. I have never seen so many bad teams as we have today.

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I have grown to hate the current system. The salary cap has diluted the play of the top teams in the nfl. There are less super teams. Plus we now have more weak teams.
Before salary cap we had Sf, NYG, Wash, Bears, Dallas, Pittsburgh, Dolphins, etc. we're all strong teams all at the same time. And these teams were deep, with plenty of talent on the bench.
Today we have two super teams, a handful of good teams and the rest struggle to field a complete lineup. I have never seen so many bad teams as we have today. For example the entire NFC east sucks. Not one strong team.

[QUOTE=Defensewins;1060321]I have grown to hate the current system. The salary cap has diluted the play of the top teams in the nfl. There are less super teams. Plus we now have more weak teams.
Before salary cap we had Sf, NYG, Wash, Bears, Dallas, Pittsburgh, Dolphins, etc. we're all strong teams all at the same time. And these teams were deep, with plenty of talent on the bench.
Today we have two super teams, a handful of good teams and the rest struggle to field a complete lineup. I have never seen so many bad teams as we have today. For example the entire NFC east sucks. Not one strong team.[/QUOTE]

I hate to say, but I have to agree!

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[quote=Defensewins;1060320]I have grown to hate the current system. The salary cap has diluted the play of the top teams in the nfl. There are less super teams. Plus we now have more weak teams.
Before salary cap we had Sf, NYG, Wash, Bears, Dallas, Pittsburgh, Dolphins, etc. we're all strong teams all at the same time. And these teams were deep, with plenty of talent on the bench.
Today we have two super teams, a handful of good teams and the rest struggle to field a complete lineup. I have never seen so many bad teams as we have today.[/quote]I disagree. It was fun back in the 80's when the NFCE and San Fran, teams with more money, dominated. But I don't think things have changed much despite the cap. Poorly managed teams (us, Raiders, Bucs, etc.) still suck. And well managed teams (Pats, Steelers, Niners, etc.) still do well.

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You still have the same teams year after year in Super Bowls. The AFC is a perfect example. 11 out of the past 13 superbowls have been represented by the same three quarterbacks.

Only in baseball, where there is no salary cap, does a team go from worst to first.

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[quote=Defensewins;1060321]I have grown to hate the current system. The salary cap has diluted the play of the top teams in the nfl. There are less super teams. Plus we now have more weak teams.
Before salary cap we had Sf, NYG, Wash, Bears, Dallas, Pittsburgh, Dolphins, etc. we're all strong teams all at the same time. And these teams were deep, with plenty of talent on the bench.
Today we have two super teams, a handful of good teams and the rest struggle to field a complete lineup. I have never seen so many bad teams as we have today. For example the entire NFC east sucks. Not one strong team.[/quote]

So you would say get rid of the sc and play would become better? I dont think it would, I would say look at the style of play vs the rules change and that's where you see "this problem". The game has changed in the last 10 years dramatically.

I think I like the ability to of teams to become good or bad quickly.

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[quote=Defensewins;1060320]I have grown to hate the current system. The salary cap has diluted the play of the top teams in the nfl. There are less super teams. Plus we now have more weak teams.
Before salary cap we had Sf, NYG, Wash, Bears, Dallas, Pittsburgh, Dolphins, etc. we're all strong teams all at the same time. And these teams were deep, with plenty of talent on the bench.
Today we have two super teams, a handful of good teams and the rest struggle to field a complete lineup. I have never seen so many bad teams as we have today.[/quote]

The days of the super teams are over. However, the teams with strong ownership, front office structure a blueprint and good coaching seem to always field competitive teams. It's not a surprise that Washington, Buffalo, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Oakland are not consistent winners.

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[quote=Defensewins;1060321]I have grown to hate the current system. The salary cap has diluted the play of the top teams in the nfl. There are less super teams. Plus we now have more weak teams.
Before salary cap we had Sf, NYG, Wash, Bears, Dallas, Pittsburgh, Dolphins, etc. we're all strong teams all at the same time. And these teams were deep, with plenty of talent on the bench.
Today we have two super teams, a handful of good teams and the rest struggle to field a complete lineup. I have never seen so many bad teams as we have today. For example the entire NFC east sucks. Not one strong team.[/quote]

You are right, the era of the super teams is gone.

Is that really so bad? The era of the super teams was great...if you were one of the super teams. The bad teams had a hard time getting good and in the meantime knew that they were just whipping posts for SF, Dallas, and us. It was not a good time for fans of non-super teams.

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ratings prove that the nfl is doing it right and i think the parity has really helped with that.

in other news, looks like boldin is staying in SF... oh well.

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[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24455137/jim-harbaughs-relationship-with-49ers-brass-is-getting-worse]Jim Harbaugh's relationship with 49ers brass is getting worse - CBSSports.com[/url]

Looks to be a power struggle out in San Fran. Already had Jimmy Haslam confirm trade talks were had with SF for Harbaugh.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1060361][url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24455137/jim-harbaughs-relationship-with-49ers-brass-is-getting-worse]Jim Harbaugh's relationship with 49ers brass is getting worse - CBSSports.com[/url]

Looks to be a power struggle out in San Fran. Already had Jimmy Haslam confirm trade talks were had with SF for Harbaugh.[/quote]

It's a bit of a stretch to say trade talks were had

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Could you imagine this board if DSnyder made these comments:

[QUOTE]“This is the one I’m comfortable with — the status we are in right now with our staff,” Jones said during a two-hour interview with the media aboard his blue-star emblazoned Cowboys bus outside Lucas Oil Stadium at the NFL Scouting Combine.

“I like our staff. Jason should know, and I know that he knows, that the plan here and has been for him to be long term, and long term certainly being beyond this year, the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Jason has a high tolerance for ambiguity. He really does. That is very important in this situation.”

While Jones wants Garrett to continue to run his football team, he wants him to stay clear of the offense.

There was definite ambiguity in that last season, muddying the waters for offensive coordinator/play caller Bill Callahan, whose power was routinely usurped by the head coach.

“Jason was really your coordinator last year,” Jones said. “That’s a fact. That was one of the issues. It was unfair to Bill. All of it was manifested by the fact that it was very difficult for Jason to get out of that role. That’s why we had such a tough time articulating it early. That’s why we made some of the switches we made during the middle of the season.

“All of it was manifested by the fact that it was very difficult for Jason to get out of that role. We laugh, but there is a difference when you’re sitting in the room and as the coach and you say, ‘Hey, wait a minute, y’all put some salt and pepper in there’ than after it has already been cooked and you’re tasting it outside the room and it might need a little salt and pepper. It’s a big difference.”

Read more here: [url=http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/02/23/5594376/jerry-garrett-in-for-long-term.html?storylink=addthis#storylink=cpy]Jerry: Garrett in for long term, away from offense | Dallas Cowboys | Latest news and video o...[/url][/QUOTE]

and what does it mean when a head coach has a high tolerance for ambiguity?

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[quote=Chico23231;1060337]So you would say get rid of the sc and play would become better? I dont think it would, I would say look at the style of play vs the rules change and that's where you see "this problem". The game has changed in the last 10 years dramatically.

I think I like the ability to of teams to become good or bad quickly.[/quote]

It would get better IMO.
Today when a team gets loaded with talent and wins, they can not afford to keep all of their talent. Even if they wanted to keep all of their great players, the cap prevents it. It will happen to Seattle come contract time for these young guys.

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[quote=Lotus;1060348]You are right, the era of the super teams is gone.

Is that really so bad? The era of the super teams was great...if you were one of the super teams. The bad teams had a hard time getting good and in the meantime knew that they were just whipping posts for SF, Dallas, and us. It was not a good time for fans of non-super teams.[/quote]

It is bad because you force the top teams to eventually lose talent due to the salary cap Even if a high priced veteran and team want to stay together, the cap can make it impossible sometimes.
This is the main problem I have with the cap, teams work so hard to acquire talent and in certain situations have to part ways because of the cap. The player, team and its fans all lose. What is the point? To even the playing field for cheap owners do not want to spend when necessary to field a strong team. Raiders and Cleveland are like $40million under the cap. Wonder why they suck.?.?
Owners like Jack Kent Cooke took care of his veterans, why is that a bad thing? Some of today's owners are cheap and greedy.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1060365][B]and what does it mean when a head coach has a high tolerance for ambiguity?[/B][/quote]

That he is able to kiss whatever ass is placed in front of him, no questions asked.