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Some day we'll get to the point where an openly gay player is no big deal, but until then we have shit like this

[url=http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/05/12/what-are-some-christians-saying-about-openly-gay-nfl-player-michael-sam-take-a-look/]What Are (Some) Christians Saying About Openly Gay NFL Player Michael Sam? Take a Look[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;1072134]Some day we'll get to the point where an openly gay player is no big deal, but until then we have shit like this

[url=http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/05/12/what-are-some-christians-saying-about-openly-gay-nfl-player-michael-sam-take-a-look/]What Are (Some) Christians Saying About Openly Gay NFL Player Michael Sam? Take a Look[/url][/quote]

Funny thing is of the ~8 different people cited in that example theres a good chance that at least one of them is gay.

Also a good chance that a close family member or former friend is gay as well. Anyone remember this guy?
[url=http://www.ibtimes.com/meet-jack-burkman-republican-lobbyist-trying-ban-gay-players-nfl-1557819]Meet Jack Burkman, The Republican Lobbyist Trying To Ban Gay Players From The NFL[/url]

[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/24/anti-gay-nfl-bill_n_4850859.html]GOP Lobbyist Behind Anti-Gay NFL Bill Has A Gay Brother[/url]

BTW he's back in the spotlight:
[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/boycott-launched-against-openly-gay-st-louis-rams-player-michael-sam-by-christian-lobbyist-jack-burkman-9365426.html]Boycott launched against openly gay St Louis Rams player Michael Sam, by Christian lobbyist Jack Burkman - Americas - World - The Independent[/url]

Personally at this point I kind of want to encourage this type of behavior. Every crazy statement people like Burkman make only serves to reduce their influence and credibility.

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Speaking of crazy people the ultra talented 'Sandy Hook Truther' Colt Lyerla {TE Oregon} is apparently unsigned.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2061952-is-colt-lyerla-worth-the-risk-as-an-nfl-undrafted-free-agent]Is Colt Lyerla Worth the Risk as an NFL Undrafted Free Agent? | Bleacher Report[/url]
[quote]According to NFL.com, he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.61 seconds—only one-hundredth of a second slower than first-round pick Eric Ebron (albeit at eight pounds lighter). He has a 39-inch vertical leap, which was tops among tight ends at this year's NFL combine by four inches.
[/quote]

Before you guys say no just remember the lesson I taught you all this weekend.
Alcohol: -10 Awareness
Cocaine: [URL="http://youtu.be/wDoIM1dRzGo"]+94 Awareness[/URL]

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[quote=Dirtbag59;1072151]Speaking of crazy people the ultra talented 'Sandy Hook Truther' Colt Lyerla {TE Oregon} is apparently unsigned.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2061952-is-colt-lyerla-worth-the-risk-as-an-nfl-undrafted-free-agent]Is Colt Lyerla Worth the Risk as an NFL Undrafted Free Agent? | Bleacher Report[/url]


Before you guys say no just remember the lesson I taught you all this weekend.
Alcohol: -10 Awareness
Cocaine: [URL="http://youtu.be/wDoIM1dRzGo"]+94 Awareness[/URL][/quote]

IMO he's worth a try out.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;1072151]Speaking of crazy people the ultra talented 'Sandy Hook Truther' Colt Lyerla {TE Oregon} is apparently unsigned.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2061952-is-colt-lyerla-worth-the-risk-as-an-nfl-undrafted-free-agent]Is Colt Lyerla Worth the Risk as an NFL Undrafted Free Agent? | Bleacher Report[/url]


Before you guys say no just remember the lesson I taught you all this weekend.
Alcohol: -10 Awareness
Cocaine: [URL="http://youtu.be/wDoIM1dRzGo"]+94 Awareness[/URL][/quote]

Sounds like he's not ready and needs some help. Once he's ready he'll get his shot.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1072134]Some day we'll get to the point where an openly gay player is no big deal, but until then we have shit like this



[url=http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/05/12/what-are-some-christians-saying-about-openly-gay-nfl-player-michael-sam-take-a-look/]What Are (Some) Christians Saying About Openly Gay NFL Player Michael Sam? Take a Look[/url][/QUOTE]


Im afraid to read this article because my impression of this world (or atleast too much of it) is already too fragile. I think that press conference or not you just cannot fix an idiot. They sort of just have to get weeded out and die off.
Edit:I knew I shouldn't have read that....

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/13/report-higher-threshold-for-positive-marijuana-tests-in-new-drug-policy/]Report: Higher threshold for positive marijuana tests in new drug policy | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Makes sense. Second comment made me laugh, so true though

So I just looked at our schedule again and Im convinced we can go 15-1 losing on the road, in OT, to San Fran. Which Im really not concerned about because we can exact revenge on them in the NFC Championship game.

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[quote=punch it in;1072226]So I just looked at our schedule again and Im convinced we can go 15-1 losing on the road, in OT, to San Fran. Which Im really not concerned about because we can exact revenge on them in the NFC Championship game.[/quote]

Hey, if you're going to go all bats*** crazy optimistic on us, why stop at 15-1? Why not say 16-0? Anytime your QB is better than your opponents' QB, you have a good shot at winnning. So assuming a healthy G3 and Kaepernick are the QBs in the 49ers-Redskins game, we practically have that win locked up already...as long as you're still in your bats*** crazy optimistic mode. :D

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[quote=punch it in;1072226]So I just looked at our schedule again and Im convinced we can go 15-1 losing on the road, in OT, to San Fran. Which Im really not concerned about because we can exact revenge on them in the NFC Championship game.[/quote]

Do you, don't let anyone sway you. HTTR.

[QUOTE=SirLK26;1072230]Hey, if you're going to go all bats*** crazy optimistic on us, why stop at 15-1? Why not say 16-0? Anytime your QB is better than your opponents' QB, you have a good shot at winnning. So assuming a healthy G3 and Kaepernick are the QBs in the 49ers-Redskins game, we practically have that win locked up already...as long as you're still in your bats*** crazy optimistic mode. :D[/QUOTE]


Usually in May I can rationalize a pretty damn good record for the upcoming season. It pained me to predict that close loss in SF, but I figured it would make our victory in the championship game even sweeter. Plus I know how much Don Shula likes that little get together every year when the last undefeated team loses and I dont want my prediction to come true and have it get back to him that it was my fault. He is a very powerful man in South Florida, and I like to vacation there. I dont want any problems while Im there.

Seriously though I do like our schedule in terms of the teams we have to face on the road, except for SF of course. Watch us go 1-15 and only win that game. Lol.

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[quote=punch it in;1072232]Usually in May I can rationalize a pretty damn good record for the upcoming season. It pained me to predict that close loss in SF, but I figured it would make our victory in the championship game even sweeter. Plus I know how much Don Shula likes that little get together every year when the last undefeated team loses and I dont want my prediction to come true and have it get back to him that it was my fault. He is a very powerful man in South Florida, and I like to vacation there. I dont want any problems while Im there.[/quote]

LOL. Hey, serious or not, being overly optimistic is better than being overly pessimistic. Although the pessimists from last offseason did get the last laugh this time around. :doh:

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[quote=punch it in;1072233]Seriously though I do like our schedule in terms of the teams we have to face on the road, except for SF of course. Watch us go 1-15 and only win that game. Lol.[/quote]

Dam it man, you swayed yourself.

[QUOTE=SirLK26;1072235]LOL. Hey, serious or not, being overly optimistic is better than being overly pessimistic. Although the pessimists from last offseason did get the last laugh this time around. :doh:[/QUOTE]


Im always optimistic in the off season. Always. For the last 25 years I think this upcoming season is the one. I was definitely not a fan of the Shanahans. Just something about them that rubbed me the wrong way. Thought he was too stubborn to change when he knew he was wrong. Whether in game, or week to week. Whatever. He is gone. I loooove the fact that we gave a young hotshot coordinator his first chance. Im excited as Hell about this year. All boils down to Griffs health and what Haslett does with this D. It cannot possibly be worse than last year.

[QUOTE=NYCskinfan82;1072237]Dam it man, you swayed yourself.[/QUOTE]


My soul has worn thin over these past two decades. My moments of optimism are fleeting.

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I did like the Shanahans maybe it's because I think Elway got to much credit in Denver for those SB's and TD & Shan should of gotten more. Agree glad we took a chance on a hotshot coordinator. I like our draft picks. I'm trying to take the wait and see approach on our schedule wins & losses.

[QUOTE=NYCskinfan82;1072243]I did like the Shanahans maybe it's because I think Elway got to much credit in Denver for those SB's and TD & Shan should of gotten more. Agree glad we took a chance on a hotshot coordinator. I like our draft picks. I'm trying to take the wait and see approach on our schedule wins & losses.[/QUOTE]


I didnt like Shanny here. I have and will again give him full credit for the SB's in Denver however. The ZBS and Terell Davis were all him. Elway was at the end of his career. A shadow of himself. Shanny - after that (and i mean Denver and DC) different story. Its like he was always trying to prove that he could win without giving a crap about a defense.

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[url=http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/14/reche-caldwell-ex-nfl-player-arrested-for-selling-ecstasy/]Reche Caldwell Arrested -- Ex-NFL Player BUSTED For Selling Ecstasy | TMZ.com[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;1072266][url=http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/14/reche-caldwell-ex-nfl-player-arrested-for-selling-ecstasy/]Reche Caldwell Arrested -- Ex-NFL Player BUSTED For Selling Ecstasy | TMZ.com[/url][/quote]

Damn, this guy sux at hustlin.

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1072266][url=http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/14/reche-caldwell-ex-nfl-player-arrested-for-selling-ecstasy/]Reche Caldwell Arrested -- Ex-NFL Player BUSTED For Selling Ecstasy | TMZ.com[/url][/QUOTE]


Ive seen the ESPN 30 for 30 about it, but I am still blown away by the fact that these guys make millions and so quickly are broke. I can only imagine he is if he had to sell drugs to make ends meet.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10930542/greg-hardy-carolina-panthers-released-jail-following-domestic-assault-charge]Greg Hardy of Carolina Panthers will be released from jail following domestic assault charge - ESPN[/url]

reading that report is kinda insane, but Greg Hardy and Ray Rice you assault women, come on suit up to play the first week of the season.

Josh Gordon, you smoked a joint, 8 week suspension.

Goodell is cray cray

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[quote=Chico23231;1072275][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10930542/greg-hardy-carolina-panthers-released-jail-following-domestic-assault-charge]Greg Hardy of Carolina Panthers will be released from jail following domestic assault charge - ESPN[/url]

reading that report is kinda insane, but Greg Hardy and Ray Rice you assault women, come on suit up to play the first week of the season.

Josh Gordon, you smoked a joint, 8 week suspension.

Goodell is cray cray[/quote]

I thought Gordan got a full year suspension.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1072275][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10930542/greg-hardy-carolina-panthers-released-jail-following-domestic-assault-charge]Greg Hardy of Carolina Panthers will be released from jail following domestic assault charge - ESPN[/url]



reading that report is kinda insane, but Greg Hardy and Ray Rice you assault women, come on suit up to play the first week of the season.



Josh Gordon, you smoked a joint, 8 week suspension.



Goodell is cray cray[/QUOTE]


Way of the world not just the NFL. Joint smokers/dealers that have sat in jail and watched the rapists and child sex offenders come and go. Oh and lets not forget than how the sex offender gets an apartment and foodstamps. Not to stray too far away from football, but it had to be said.

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[quote=Chico23231;1072275][URL="http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10930542/greg-hardy-carolina-panthers-released-jail-following-domestic-assault-charge"]Greg Hardy of Carolina Panthers will be released from jail following domestic assault charge - ESPN[/URL]

[B]reading that report is kinda insane, but Greg Hardy and Ray Rice you assault women, come on suit up to play the first week of the season[/B].

Josh Gordon, you smoked a joint, 8 week suspension.

Goodell is cray cray[/quote]

They have to be actually convicted before the league would look to take action. Until then what are they guilty of?

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1072287]They have to be actually convicted before the league would look to take action. Until then what are they guilty of?[/QUOTE]


Good point
Edit: their punishment probably wont be as stiff as Gordons though if they are convicted

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[quote=punch it in;1072289]Good point
Edit: their punishment probably wont be as stiff as Gordons though if they are convicted[/quote]

Depends on what they are convicted of I would guess, and pretty sure this isn't Gordon's first offense.

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[quote=Chico23231;1072275][URL="http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10930542/greg-hardy-carolina-panthers-released-jail-following-domestic-assault-charge"]Greg Hardy of Carolina Panthers will be released from jail following domestic assault charge - ESPN[/URL]

reading that report is kinda insane, but Greg Hardy and Ray Rice you assault women, come on suit up to play the first week of the season.

Josh Gordon, you smoked a joint, 8 week suspension.

Goodell is cray cray[/quote]

So I guess you're taking this persons accusations at 100%.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/10935628/aaron-hernandez-indicted-double-murder-2012]Aaron Hernandez indicted in double murder in 2012 - ESPN Boston[/url]

wow

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1072292][url=http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/10935628/aaron-hernandez-indicted-double-murder-2012]Aaron Hernandez indicted in double murder in 2012 - ESPN Boston[/url]



wow[/QUOTE]


They should just put him down by firing squad. Dont waste a single dollar.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1072291]So I guess you're taking this persons accusations at 100%.[/quote]

Well in Ray Rice case, its pretty much a closed case with the video evidence.

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Rich Tandler ‏@Rich_TandlerCSN 13m
The Redskins’ roster is balanced in one way. 42 on offense, 42 on defense. (6 specialists, two each PK, P, LS).

Like the 6 specialists simply because it seems you can alternate and have solid competition in each spot, and may the better man win. Granted if both are bad, then you are in trouble, but I imagine then you let the more bad one go and bring in another guy.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10937348/player-st-louis-rams-says-michael-sam-show-potential-distraction]Player on St. Louis Rams says Michael Sam show a potential distraction - ESPN[/url]

not a fan of this move. reality show on oprah network? wack as f*ck

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1072306][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10937348/player-st-louis-rams-says-michael-sam-show-potential-distraction]Player on St. Louis Rams says Michael Sam show a potential distraction - ESPN[/url]



not a fan of this move. reality show on oprah network? wack as f*ck[/QUOTE]


Yeah doesn't sound like a good idea. Establish yourself first and then do something like this later on.

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he's a 7th rounder. before going all jackie robinson we should make sure he's actually going to make the team.

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[quote=Mattyk;1072307]Yeah doesn't sound like a good idea. Establish yourself first and then do something like this later on.[/quote]

Second that. Having a reality show following you around while you're trying to make a pro roster sounds like a bad idea, and that's not even considering the media circus that's going to be there because of your sexual orientation.

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Already tired of Michael Sam.

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Relax, I'm sure Oprah is just doing what's best for all.....

[IMG]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/16/nezygy6y.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=That Guy;1072310]he's a 7th rounder. before going all jackie robinson we should make sure he's actually going to make the team.[/quote]

Agreed. Maybe he's trying to cash in now while he can. He sure is talking a big game, but as a 7th rounder he's got an uphill battle.