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[quote=Gary84Clark;1097097]Not reaching just telling the truth Murphy sucks.[/quote]

What? The guy has more production in 3 games than Rak had all season.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1097110]Garcon 3 catches 9 yards yet you keep throwing the ball to Alfred Morris. brilliant![/quote]

You do realize that outside the one screen pass. That Morris is the checkdown? I mean, I can't even take you seriously if you think it's designed to throw to Morris in those situations.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1097110]Garcon 3 catches 9 yards yet you keep throwing the ball to Alfred Morris. brilliant![/quote]

Yesterday you were going to judge Gruden like he judged RG3 for making the switch to Colt.

With 4 minutes left in the 3rd quarter, we were within two scores and Colt had a 123 quarterback rating. (leaving out the garbage time passing stats)

Colt had more passing touchdowns today than Griffin has had since his return from the ankle.

What is your judgment Gary84Clark, of Gruden's decision to bench RG3 for Colt?

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[quote=Bucket;1097112]You do realize that outside the one screen pass. That Morris is the checkdown? I mean, I can't even take you seriously if you think it's designed to throw to Morris in those situations.[/quote]

He doesn't.

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[quote=Bucket;1097112]You do realize that outside the one screen pass. That Morris is the checkdown? I mean, I can't even take you seriously if you think it's designed to throw to Morris in those situations.[/quote]

Checkdowns against the worst defense in football. I get what he's saying pretty clearly. Not sure where you're coming from though??

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[QUOTE=Gary84Clark;1097073]punch I disagree.



trends I notice:



Garcon = not good anymore. Not RG3 fault he gets no play. Garcon was blaming RG3 nah Garcon get open and catch the ball.



Stop throwing the ball to Morris, Jay you are a dumb ass. Everytime you throw the ball to Morris a red light in Dan's office flashes. The red light is labelled fire Jay.



Jay you are no where near what the Redskins need in a head coach.[/QUOTE]


Dude, you are a complete joke. Your blind love affair for Robert is sickening. If Robert played in this game they probably would not have scored 6 points. Get up from under the desk and wipe your chin!!


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[quote=Rotten1980;1097120]Checkdowns against the worst defense in football. I get what he's saying pretty clearly. Not sure where you're coming from though??[/quote]

Maybe he is saying that Morris had 3 receptions and throwing 3 check downs out of 74 plays over the course of a game isn't a big deal.

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[quote=Brody81;1097121]Your blind love affair for Robert is sickening. Get up from under the desk and wipe your chin!!


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Why so harsh?

I'm always happy when someone finds their one true love.

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Anyone catch Landrys tribute to sean today? Freaking awesome

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1097097]Not reaching just telling the truth Murphy sucks.[/quote]

He can not rush the passer one bit. No explosiveness at all. No athletism at all. Just a big slow guy.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1097124]Why so harsh?

I'm always happy when someone finds their one true love.[/quote]

:lol:

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Colt is definitely the better QB for our team right now

But our gameplan still sucks and that is all on Gruden

Even with Colt the team still was just bad (the first half was horrendous and the second half was okay, but no where near good enough to win)

Truthfully the only reason the Skins even had a chance yesterday was the bad play of Indy.

They let Washington hang in there way longer than they should have.

They had 10 Penalties and 3 turnovers, and they still blew out the skins.

Face it friends, the problem with this team lies with the coach.

Colt has earned the starter spot for the foreseeable future (I say let him keep the role until he proves he doesn't deserve it), but Gruden should leave.

RG3 and Kirk should be traded in the offseason and we should find some good backups for Colt, but without Gruden around, the man is not NFL HC caliber.

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i didnt get to watch this game. first game i missed so far this season but i find it hard to believe that gruden somehow shat the bed when journeyman Colt put up 392 yards and 3 tds no ints.

gruden's established MO imo is an elite passing attack.

are we really blaming our 1st year coach for this team's problems? im a huge RG3 fan but its clear to me that he was an anchor holding this team back on offense. On defense it is clear we lack secondary players and haslett cant coach up or get more out of less.

i guess i need to watch the game and maybe i will be calling for gruden's head as well.

perhaps fans are incorrectly funneling all their blame on gruden bc allen has gone MIA and is leaving gruden to take all the bullets and be the weekly messenger of excuses?

allen needs to step up. on radio they were saying they had casserly on a few weeks ago and he said when he was with the skins he did a weekly radio show and never refused an interview bc he wanted to (1) reinforce what the coach was saying and not leave the coach having to answer all the critical questions (2) reinforce the team's overall message and game plan so fans know there is a long term plan in place.

allen needs to step up and not leave a rookie coach to have to answer questions that werent necessarily his doing (roster issues).

im assuming this organizations brain trusts decided it was a good idea to not have anyone from the organization talk during the regular season .. i understand wanting to keep the DS from the public but wasnt allen brought in to be the face of this organization?

wasnt allen brought in to be the clear communicator of what this organizations long term goals and plans are?

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Sorry Mountain, but RG3 had nothing to do with Yesterday's loss

Even with a ton of mistakes by Indy the Skins still got blown away

When all three QB's have been tried and the team still gets blown out, its the coach

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[quote=Avinash_Tyagi;1097204]Sorry Mountain, but RG3 had nothing to do with Yesterday's loss

Even with a ton of mistakes by Indy the Skins still got blown away

When all three QB's have been tried and the team still gets blown out, its the coach[/quote]

QB A: 273.3 passing yds/gm

QB B: 249 yds/gm

QB C: 147.8 yds/gm

which QB do you think RG3 is?

stat that may surprise you - we are 10th in passing in the NFL. Imagine our rank if QB C didnt play 3-4 games.

i am a RG3 fan but gruden doesnt deserve the axe or majority of the blame for this season imo.

didnt gruden's play calling just get noodle armed journey man colt mccoy 392 yds, 3 tds no ints? .... and you blame gruden for that? you call that a qb bust?

yeah gruden sucks man .. we totally should have won 50-49.

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1097207]QB A: 273.3 passing yds/gm



QB B: 249 yds/gm



QB C: 147.8 yds/gm



which QB do you think RG3 is?



stat that may surprise you - we are 10th in passing in the NFL. Imagine our rank if QB C didnt play 3-4 games.



i am a RG3 fan but gruden doesnt deserve the axe or majority of the blame for this season imo.



didnt gruden's play calling just get noodle armed journey man colt mccoy 392 yds, 3 tds no ints? .... and you blame gruden for that? you call that a qb bust?



yeah gruden sucks man .. we totally should have won 50-49.[/QUOTE]


A lot of Colt's numbers were in garbage time, in the 1st half he had less than 100.

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[quote=Mattyk;1097218]A lot of Colt's numbers were in garbage time, in the 1st half he had less than 100.[/quote]

Exactly, I keep trying to say that in the gameday thread.

Great on Colt but the end result was a L.

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In ever lost this year some unit breaks down or multiply units. sometimes it is the D then it is the O and/or ST. IMO that falls to the head coach.

At this point in the season we should be seeing some growth as a team and quit honestly if anything this team is worst then week one.

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[quote=Mattyk;1097218]A lot of Colt's numbers were in garbage time, in the 1st half he had less than 100.[/quote]

wasnt it a 3 point game early in the 3rd quarter? with a 49-27 score im sure there was plenty of garbage time in the 4th quarter but 392 yds is 392 yards.

doesnt gruden get credit for making 2nd half adjustments? 100 yds 1st half, 292 2nd half.

i just cant disagree more with people wanting to fire gruden 11 games in.

isnt that the same stuff we constantly complain about - not being patient.

i guess i really need to watch the game so i can join the pitchfork and torch crowd (i dont think you specifically are calling for gurdens head matty - general rant language from me).


im not saying the 392 yds makes colt a great QB .. im saying 392 yds with colt makes gruden a very intriguing and exciting HC imo.

392 yds with colt freakin mccoy. garbage time or not, thats some good play calling.

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[quote=Mattyk;1097218]A lot of Colt's numbers were in garbage time, in the 1st half he had less than 100.[/quote]

And the offense (again) started the game looking like it didn't practice all week. So frustrating to create turnovers deep in Indy's territory but come away with no touchdowns.

And Indy is a crap defense, arguably worst in the league. Nobody should be boasting about our offense yesterday.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1097218]A lot of Colt's numbers were in garbage time, in the 1st half he had less than 100.[/QUOTE]


He had well over 200 yards with three td's and 0 picks when the game was completely in reach. It wasnt until after his last td pass that the Colts broke it open.


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It was close for a few minutes in the 3rd but they pulled away again quick.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1097227]It was close for a few minutes in the 3rd but they pulled away again quick.[/QUOTE]


They did and thats on the D. Colt has been pretty damn good when given the chance. His slow starts could be due to the fact that he gets weeks off in-between starts. Ill be interested to see how he does the rest of the year getting snaps with the first team and staying loose.


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[quote=over the mountain;1097224]wasnt it a 3 point game early in the 3rd quarter? with a 49-27 score im sure there was plenty of garbage time in the 4th quarter but 392 yds is 392 yards.

doesnt gruden get credit for making 2nd half adjustments? 100 yds 1st half, 292 2nd half.

i just cant disagree more with people wanting to fire gruden 11 games in.

isnt that the same stuff we constantly complain about - not being patient.

i guess i really need to watch the game so i can join the pitchfork and torch crowd (i dont think you specifically are calling for gurdens head matty - general rant language from me).


im not saying the 392 yds makes colt a great QB .. im saying 392 yds with colt makes gruden a very intriguing and exciting HC imo.

392 yds with colt freakin mccoy. garbage time or not, thats some good play calling.[/quote]

yeah it was a three point game for like 10 minutes, then Indy ran away with it.

How much was adjustments and how much was Indy just slacking off when they knew the game was in the bag?

Notice how we still got the L's under all three QB's

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[quote=punch it in;1097228]They did and thats on the D. Colt has been pretty damn good when given the chance. His slow starts could be due to the fact that he gets weeks off in-between starts. Ill be interested to see how he does the rest of the year getting snaps with the first team and staying loose.


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This isnt his first QB opportunity to start though and he had time to get prepared.


Some wont like this statement but, I saw alot of the similar issues with Colt as I saw with RG3 yesterday. Holding the ball too long, poor pocket awareness, poor accuracy with easy, routine throws (short outs and quick slants) and not seeing the field.

I also saw the noodle arm twice...


In the offseason, Im keeping RG3 around to work on being a pocket QB. I go into next season with RG3, Kirk and another vet QB.

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Bottom line is colts garbage time and non garbage time numbers are miles above Griffs.


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[quote=Avinash_Tyagi;1097229]yeah it was a three point game for like 10 minutes, then Indy ran away with it.

How much was adjustments and how much was Indy just slacking off when they knew the game was in the bag?

Notice how we still got the L's under all three QB's[/quote]

11 games in my friend.

did gruden lose the games last year for us as well?

lets give the man at least 1 offseason to work with journeyman talent like colt and then judge him at seasons end.

just give the dude 1 offseason with a coachable QB and a better defense.

there are no better alternatives. there are no quick fixes.

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1097232]11 games in my friend.



did gruden lose the games last year for us as well?



lets give the man at least 1 offseason to work with journeyman talent like colt and then judge him at seasons end.



just give the dude 1 offseason with a coachable QB and a better defense.



there are no better alternatives. there are no quick fixes.[/QUOTE]


Really effin Shanahan had forever because he won a superbowl 50 years ago. Lol. He left this franchise so much more worse off than it was when he got here.


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[quote=Mattyk;1097218]A lot of Colt's numbers were in garbage time, in the 1st half he had less than 100.[/quote]

The Colts were still blitzing defensive backs in the 4th quarter. I don't think they really went into a prevent defense, maybe near the end.

I don't think McCoy is going to be anything more than a good backup, but he's looked so much better than RG3 has this year.

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[quote=over the mountain;1097232]11 games in my friend.

did gruden lose the games last year for us as well?

lets give the man at least 1 offseason to work with journeyman talent like colt and then judge him at seasons end.

just give the dude 1 offseason with a coachable QB and a better defense.

there are no better alternatives. there are no quick fixes.[/quote]

And if next year is as bad, then we've wasted a year for what gain?

This year is a Sunk Cost, better to cut our losses and move on.

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Colt had well over 250 and 2 TD's before "garbage time".

I don't see how 2 scores down in the third quarter can be considered garbage time.

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[quote=Avinash_Tyagi;1097239]And if next year is as bad, then we've wasted a year for what gain?

This year is a Sunk Cost, better to cut our losses and move on.[/quote]

move on to what?

im sure we can fire up our smear campaign department and make all this fall on gruden's shoulders as a scape goat .... but what is the next step? who do you think would realistically take this HC job if we run gruden out?

no quick fixes.

we have an exciting young HC, id like to give him the tools to succeed before we can him.

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[quote=Mattyk;1096614]Skins 23 Colts 20

Colt McCoy mania reaches epic levels[/quote]

Seems like we didnt need a win for this to happen

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[quote=Chico23231;1097243]Seems like we didnt need a win for this to happen[/quote]

its not colt mania (at least for me).

its "lets not fire our coach for having to pencil colt in as his starting QB".

i dont think we should count on colt being our starting Qb next year. with his noodle arm, we cant call every passing play in the playbook and that is a big prob for me. every post i made, i said colt is a journey man or just another guy.

the fact that gruden is getting good production from colt = gruden is a good passing coach. it does not mean colt is a good qb.

im a broken record. im gonna stop posting my same opinion over and over. i apologize for that.

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Y'all can argue all you want about whether Boy Emperor, Two-faced Kirk, or the Texas Noodle is the better QB. But, at the end of the day, it's a little like arguing Rex vs. Beck, because we don't have a starting QB on the roster.

Time for an offseason overhaul at QB...again.

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Colt isn't the savior. But he at least looks like a competent NFL QB. To even compare him or Cousins to Beck is ridiculous. He's clearly a better fit for this offense over Griffin, and maybe even Cousins. He was solid for 3 quarters. The first part of the game the offense was terrible.

I'd probably pass on a QB this upcoming draft. Andrew Luck isn't in this draft class. They need to draft guys that can play right away.

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[quote=Lotus;1097245]Y'all can argue all you want about whether Boy Emperor, Two-faced Kirk, or the Texas Noodle is the better QB. But, at the end of the day, it's a little like arguing Rex vs. Beck, because we don't have a starting QB on the roster.

Time for an offseason overhaul at QB...again.[/quote]

I disagree.


I think if we can get a stable O-line on the guard position and find a safety who isn't trying to boost his espn resume. You can for sure be a great team with McCoy at QB. Atleast have him coach up a young QB.. Even if that QB is Kirk.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1097249]Colt isn't the savior. But he at least looks like a competent NFL QB. To even compare him or Cousins to Beck is ridiculous. He's clearly a better fit for this offense over Griffin, and maybe even Cousins. He was solid for 3 quarters. The first part of the game the offense was terrible.

I'd probably pass on a QB this upcoming draft. Andrew Luck isn't in this draft class. They need to draft guys that can play right away.[/quote]

Too bad we don't have a competent offensive line.

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All this talk about QB meanwhile the losses keep piling up. We've got bigger problems folks.

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agreed. that's saying it nicely

[quote=Mattyk;1097258]All this talk about QB meanwhile the losses keep piling up. We've got bigger problems folks.[/quote]